The problem when there is tunnel vision and obstinacy, with people becoming entrenched, is that real issues cannot come out. If two people lock horns, then anything anyone else writes will become part of that argument. When you see someone else's ideas in an extreme way then there is no room for intelligent discussion by ** anyone **. It's like a giant whirlpool: anything we want to say which even smells like one "side" or the other gets sucked into it. Very discouraging.

I reported those posts and ended up getting a warning myself for not letting up in this discussion (with John). People reported my posts too (apparently not these last few, I'm talking about the main discussion itself). People don't like to hear opposing view points, that's fine. However, reporting it to the mods just because you disagree, is unhealthy behavior (if the only reason my posts were reported was because I wasn't letting up, then John's posts ought to have got reported too but I doubt that happened, for obvious reasons in this forum). I hope people understand that. I will not post here anymore.. I leave with the wish that new eager teachers coming in to this forum seeking advice, do not lose sight of all the right reasons they got into the business in the first place. I value this forum as I come here for pianistic advice myself and I don't want to lose that privilege just because folks here in the teacher's forum don't like listening to an opposing point of view. Have fun.