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#1651558 - 03/31/11 10:01 AM Does classical music really make you depressed?
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Does classical music really make you depressed? I heard this among some people and was wondering if it really did make you depressed if you hear it 24/7...

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#1651578 - 03/31/11 10:32 AM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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24/7? Do these people not sleep? That's really something..

And why should it make you depressed? It only makes me depressed when I realize I suck, or when my LH sometimes refuses to play a simple scale in fast tempo (I'm still mad about that.. arghhhhhhhh)
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#1651584 - 03/31/11 10:37 AM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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Heh... A nice one vesivian...

I doubt anyone can listen to music for 24/7, regardless of genre or other... But even if one could I'd doubt it would make one depressed. Classical music has so many different styles that is wonderful to listen 24/7! Perhaps a little bored after a few weeks, but depressed? No way!
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#1651593 - 03/31/11 10:40 AM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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yeah, beethoven's 6th is such a buzzkill smirk
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#1651605 - 03/31/11 11:00 AM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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#1651611 - 03/31/11 11:04 AM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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#1651619 - 03/31/11 11:14 AM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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maybe inherently sad pieces like Tchaik 6 or Mahler 9...but people who don't listen to classical regularly spew out all sorts of [censored] about it (it's boring, it's "for musicians only", its for old people) and it wouldn't surprise me to see "it's depressing" added to that list.

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#1651633 - 03/31/11 11:33 AM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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Who would say such a thing?
You just need a little cheering up!
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When I'm feeling low, I just remember that you CAN get lower, or should I say lowered:
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#1651652 - 03/31/11 12:00 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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I recommend the symphonies of Allan Pettersson as a cure for depression grin.

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#1651714 - 03/31/11 01:28 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: erichlof]
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Originally Posted By: erichlof
Who would say such a thing?
You just need a little cheering up!


when i need a bit of cheering up, here's a tune that perks me up:

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#1651717 - 03/31/11 01:30 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Pogorelich.]
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Originally Posted By: Pogorelich.

And why should it make you depressed? It only makes me depressed when I realize I suck, or when my LH sometimes refuses to play a simple scale in fast tempo (I'm still mad about that.. arghhhhhhhh)



I can sympathise with you. Specially when i try to play funerailles and after hours and hours my left hand still stiffens up too much frown

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#1651724 - 03/31/11 01:38 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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You might have worded your post more concisely. I'm sure you don't mean 24/7 (no sleep, will definitely lead you to go mad, no matter what kind of music you're listening to). So, I'll assume you mean a lot.

I don't think there has been any conclusive evidence one way or the other.

Although, in limited doses, classical music has the "potential" to 'lower' depression in 'some' people.


Edited by Akira (03/31/11 01:39 PM)

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#1651791 - 03/31/11 03:03 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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I'm very skeptical about studies on the psychological effects of listening to "classical music." (including ones that say it makes you smarter, relaxed, etc)

Does listening to a fast, violent work have the same effect as listening to a soft, soothing work? Does large, contrapuntally complex orchestral music have the same effect as a beginner-level harpsichord solo? Does instrumental music have the same effect as vocal music (and does it matter if one understands the lyrics of the vocal music)? Does an atonal composition have the same effect as a romantic work or a baroque work?

Surely not - so how can one make any definitive study or generalization about the effects of listening to any "classical music"?

And that's not even getting into whether or not one ENJOYS the piece at hand. The same piece of music can have wildly different effects on different listeners, depending on whether the listener enjoys it or not. Furthermore, the same piece of music can even have wildly different effects on the SAME person depending on that person's mood at the time.


Edited by pianojerome (03/31/11 04:57 PM)
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#1651796 - 03/31/11 03:09 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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Originally Posted By: Vesivian
if you hear it 24/7...


That's a different question, which has nothing to do with music. I enjoy eating ice-cream. But if I had to constantly eat ice-cream for an entire week, I'd probably not enjoy it so much anymore.
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#1651813 - 03/31/11 03:25 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: fledgehog]
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Originally Posted By: fledgehog
maybe inherently sad pieces like Tchaik 6 or Mahler 9...but people who don't listen to classical regularly spew out all sorts of [censored] about it (it's boring, it's "for musicians only", its for old people) and it wouldn't surprise me to see "it's depressing" added to that list.


I've heard the "depressing" argument from several young, classically ignorant people. I think it's a safe assumption that the person the OP heard it from was such a person. If your musical standard is beautiful, superficial teens & 20 somethings preening about the exciting, flashy tangibles of life, you may find that clashing, incomprehensible, lengthy classical music simply bores and irritates by its lack of the same. I think depressing is just teenage exaggeration for something lacking excitement value.

LOL, I just hit thirty, but that statement makes me sound way older. But I can take consolation from the fact that I wrote a research paper my senior year in high school that involved some of these topics, and I would have said the same thing then that I do now. I guess, probably like many of us, I have looked down on much of pop culture since I was old enough to be aware of it.
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#1651821 - 03/31/11 03:37 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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'Classically ignorant' has a nice ring to it.


Edited by apple* (03/31/11 03:38 PM)
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#1651857 - 03/31/11 04:22 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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This has got to be one of the sillier thread topics I've yet seen here. The only thing depressing is that classical doesn't sell as well, nor is as popular, as the inane crap you hear while sitting at a red light from the idiot in the car next to you who feels everyone else should partake in his ignorance.
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#1651858 - 03/31/11 04:22 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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No, it helps me fight against depression.
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#1651882 - 03/31/11 04:50 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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#1651889 - 03/31/11 05:00 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores
This has got to be one of the sillier thread topics I've yet seen here. The only thing depressing is that classical doesn't sell as well, nor is as popular, as the inane crap you hear while sitting at a red light from the idiot in the car next to you who feels everyone else should partake in his ignorance.


Do you think this is a new development or has always been the case?

I generally agree with you in your assessment of modern popular music.

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#1651892 - 03/31/11 05:04 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: aidans]
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Originally Posted By: stores
This has got to be one of the sillier thread topics I've yet seen here. The only thing depressing is that classical doesn't sell as well, nor is as popular, as the inane crap you hear while sitting at a red light from the idiot in the car next to you who feels everyone else should partake in his ignorance.


Do you think this is a new development or has always been the case?

I generally agree with you in your assessment of modern popular music.


Do I think what to be a new development?
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#1651910 - 03/31/11 05:30 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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That classical music doesn't sell as well, nor is as popular as the music people blast in their cars at red lights.

I ask because I'm generally skeptical of anything that sounds like a "golden age," but in this case I really do feel like societal tastes are changing for the worse.

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#1651924 - 03/31/11 05:54 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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It's not a new development, no, but classical music is, with a surety, succumbing to an eclipse rooted in ignorance and societal priorities steeped in mindless armchair entertainment.
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#1651931 - 03/31/11 06:00 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores
This has got to be one of the sillier thread topics I've yet seen here. The only thing depressing is that classical doesn't sell as well, nor is as popular, as the inane crap you hear while sitting at a red light from the idiot in the car next to you who feels everyone else should partake in his ignorance.

Yes. It makes me depressed if I am forced to hear noises from Rebecca Black or Justin Bieber instead of classical music.


Edited by feebee_liszt (03/31/11 06:01 PM)
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#1651940 - 03/31/11 06:14 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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Once I posted about my mom dancing around the kitchen to the Pastoral symphony, 3rd mvmt. But a few days later, we had the first really warm, sunny day of spring. I was stuck inside working. I was convinced that everyone else in town was either at (or on their way to) a picnic or softball game, or dancing in a big circle in a sunlit meadow, except me. (Even though it was a workday...) And the background music to my discontentment was that same cheerful Beethoven movement! In that context, it was torment!! The next day was similarly beautiful but by that time, it was just typical spring weather. And yes, I did get out the door after work by 5:00 on the dot.

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#1651942 - 03/31/11 06:16 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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I've read/heard that the classical CD / huge orchestra market is worse off than it was in previous decades. However, we should keep in mind that commercial recordings didn't exist 100 years ago, and huge orchestras in every major city are also a big development of the 20th century. So compared to 50 years ago, the classical scene may be worse off today, but how is it compared to 150 or 200 years ago?

Anyway, that's quite off-topic. But often off-topic topics are fun.
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#1651986 - 03/31/11 07:35 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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This is just a thought. I don't know how true it is. But maybe the idea that "classical music is depressing" could come from the whole "melancholy artist" stereotype. You know the image of the person dressed all in black playing the piano by themselves in the dark. Idk...

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#1651993 - 03/31/11 08:01 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]
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Originally Posted By: WinsomeAllegretto
This is just a thought. I don't know how true it is. But maybe the idea that "classical music is depressing" could come from the whole "melancholy artist" stereotype. You know the image of the person dressed all in black playing the piano by themselves in the dark. Idk...


Some people have indeed explicitly told me I should not listen to classical music because it is what makes me feel depressed. What? mad This shows how much people understand me of course... cry cry cry
I feel much more depressed when I get on the bus and am forced to turn off my iPod because the music on the bus (not classical of course frown ) is so loud...
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#1651998 - 03/31/11 08:07 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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Nope, quite the opposite actually. It stops me from getting depressed smile
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#1652007 - 03/31/11 08:21 PM Re: Does classical music really make you depressed? [Re: Gould]
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How could it possibly make someone depressed. (Featuring another tune from our birthday boy.)

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