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#1654711 - 04/04/11 11:11 PM What writiing untensil do you use to compose music?
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Pens, Fountain Pens, Calligraphy Pens, Pencils, etc?
Anything you may use to write music when you are not using a computer to do so?


Edited by TylerNB (04/04/11 11:12 PM)
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#1654722 - 04/04/11 11:35 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Pencil. I used to use plain old pencils, but now I have a little assortment of mechanical ones, and I love trying out new ones. In the Olden Days, before computers, I used to write all my scores out in pen and ink. Those scores still look pretty good to me, though it's wonderful now, with Finale, to be near the bottom of a page and not to have to redo a whole page when you make a mistake!

The pen I used to use, by the way, was a bit like a calligraphy pen, except that it had a straight (not slanted) edge. I also worked as a copyist for some composers when I was a poor student - learnt a lot!
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#1654741 - 04/05/11 12:11 AM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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ONLY PENCIL! How dare you propose anything else? I actually don't think I remember how to use a fountain pen or a plain pen anymore... But, God, I love my pencils!

I use a specific brand (Q-Connect) that has a couple of great features: Doesn't break when sharpen (strong lead inside?), has a rubber that works quite well on the back (which actually can be extended if you cut off a small part of the metalic thing that holds it together), is HB but of great quality.

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#1654804 - 04/05/11 03:29 AM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: Nikolas]
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can't write notes.. .so i play using a keyboard...*hides*
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#1654869 - 04/05/11 06:49 AM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Soft lead pencil and a pile of erasers. But I rarely write music on anything but a computer these days.

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#1655058 - 04/05/11 01:09 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Originally Posted By: TylerNB
Pens, Fountain Pens, Calligraphy Pens, Pencils, etc?
Anything you may use to write music when you are not using a computer to do so?


Pencil when composing, of course. For score production you're welcome to file down a nib or two and get out the Indian Ink if you fancy it as a recreational craft. But, as you say, practically speaking it's now a computer job.

Spend a few hours laying out a fairly complex score in Sibelius or Finale, THEN tell me there's no skill or judgement required :-)

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#1655259 - 04/05/11 06:29 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: Exalted Wombat]
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Originally Posted By: Exalted Wombat
Spend a few hours laying out a fairly complex score in Sibelius or Finale, THEN tell me there's no skill or judgement required :-)
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#1655513 - 04/06/11 03:17 AM Re: What writing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Either a pencil or Sibelius (depending on where I am)... smile
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#1655643 - 04/06/11 10:33 AM Re: What writing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Mechanical pencil with extra erasers at the ready. I only put stuff in the 'puter when it's ready.

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#1655671 - 04/06/11 11:32 AM Re: What writing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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#1655985 - 04/06/11 09:47 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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A black felt tip pen; thick enough to make clear notes and beams with a little pressure but fine enough to write stems and accidentals. I never write anything out until it is fully formed so errors and changes are rare. I white out the odd writing mistake.

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#1656591 - 04/07/11 10:55 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Just pencil. Sometimes, I'm stuck with a pen, but not being able to erase is an incredible pain! For me, pencil-and-paper composing is for drafting ideas. Final editions always go into Finale, and often a lot of my composing happens with Finale at hand.

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#1664230 - 04/21/11 02:44 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Pencil or Sibelius.
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#1664232 - 04/21/11 02:50 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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PENCILS PENICLS PENCILS!!!! What is the best computer software for composing? and where do you get it?
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#1664246 - 04/21/11 03:05 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: Elysia]
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I don't know any that will do the composing for you! But if you compose something, Sibelius and Finale are the main programs for getting it written down neatly. Available at the usual suppliers of software (and read into that whatever you like :-)

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#1664341 - 04/21/11 05:48 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Pencils, a sharpener, and part of the brain remembering where I keep the sharpener. I don't trust refillables.
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#1664385 - 04/21/11 06:50 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: Exalted Wombat]
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Originally Posted By: Exalted Wombat
I don't know any that will do the composing for you! But if you compose something, Sibelius and Finale are the main programs for getting it written down neatly. Available at the usual suppliers of software (and read into that whatever you like :-)


Thank-You. lol I didnt mean that would compose for me, hehe that would be uncreative. I am not a neat and tidy composer. I will have to call the local software suppliers. Thank-You again.
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#1664543 - 04/21/11 11:58 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Pencil, but I almost always use Sibelius. I love fountain pens for writing words, but I feel like it would be a nightmare with music--it would dry up all the time, because there's a lot of writing a little then stopping and writing a little more. If I wrote more by hand, I feel like a nice felt-tip calligraphy marker would be best, although scribbling is a lot messier than erasing.

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#1664627 - 04/22/11 03:59 AM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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I use whatever is handy smile I prefer to use a normal ballpoint pen, as that's what is lying around, but they usually end up dying on me, and I have to switch to pencil. Although for works for more than just a piano, I use Sibelius. xD
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#1664667 - 04/22/11 07:15 AM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: Ted]
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Originally Posted By: Ted
A black felt tip pen; thick enough to make clear notes and beams with a little pressure but fine enough to write stems and accidentals. I never write anything out until it is fully formed so errors and changes are rare. I white out the odd writing mistake.




I would make a beautiful print out of this.. just for prosperity. it's very pretty
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#1664677 - 04/22/11 07:40 AM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Something I thought would be cool, would be a music notation software for Android. I'm always getting stuck somewhere with ideas in my head, but no paper to write it down on. :P
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#1666688 - 04/26/11 05:08 AM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: Elysia]
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A cheep and efficient s/w is Geniesoft's Overture (successor or Cakewalk).
For publishing demanding tasks and additional features, use Encore or Finale. Keep in mind, the more powerful the software, the more expensive and time-demanding it is.
Also, the MIDI equipment you use will make a difference: true samples, polyphony, the resemblance to a real orchestra, and the settings, how to 'position' the instruments in space, and all the fine tunings to 'direct' the 'orchestra' to interpret your composition, are * very time demanding *, but really rewarding, if you are determined to produce a quality result.
If, like me, you do not master the sound potential of an orchestra, a good hw/sw equipment will help you immensely to improve your arrangment skills, provided you will be spending hours for a single bar on quite a few instruments only.
The 'popular' ones within http://www.myspace.com/havenotime/music are created in the 90s with a very low-end equipment (I just have no time to invest on composing anymore...)

good luck
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#1672797 - 05/06/11 10:37 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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For some odd reason, Sibelius, the cheaper program, is better than Finale, the big program. And why is this? Simplicity. I heard that people have easier time learning Sibelius than Finale, and the funny thing is, I have both the programs, or I did, until my computer caught on fire and my motherborg fried! D:
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#1673030 - 05/07/11 12:16 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: Jolteon]
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Originally Posted By: Jolteon
Something I thought would be cool, would be a music notation software for Android. I'm always getting stuck somewhere with ideas in my head, but no paper to write it down on. :P


Funny you should say that. I've been in conversation with a number of developers about producing musical output in Android. Notation is all well and good, but most people needs some sort of audio feedback while they're working on ideas. I put some stuff on my web site about this aspect of it:

http://kevinboone.net/javamidi.html

Android does not make it easy to produce musical output at run-time, sadly.

I doubt there will ever be a Sibellius or Finale (or even Musescore) for Android -- it's just too limited in too many ways. But Tasks like writing a single line of melody, for example, should be straightforward.

Looking into this is on my to-do list, but my to-do list is pretty long smirk

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#1673032 - 05/07/11 12:18 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: TylerNB]
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Originally Posted By: TylerNB
For some odd reason, Sibelius, the cheaper program, is better than Finale, the big program.


To say that Sibelius is cheaper than Finale, while it may be true, is like saying that falling from the sixth floor is worse than falling from the ninth smile

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#1673234 - 05/07/11 08:01 PM Re: What writiing untensil do you use to compose music? [Re: Jolteon]
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Originally Posted By: Jolteon
Something I thought would be cool, would be a music notation software for Android. I'm always getting stuck somewhere with ideas in my head, but no paper to write it down on. :P


iPad is what you need, really. It's set up well for music apps, and Symphony Pro in particular has been a godsend for me.
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