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WingNL #1655538 04/06/11 05:08 AM
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Key action is different, the FP-7F uses the same action as the RD-700NX while the FP-4F the same as the RD-300NX. This explains the weight difference too.
Other minor differences, but they not matter much (looper, harmonizer).

I wonder why one should get the FP-4F and not the RD-300NX instead: integrated speakers? Size?
The FP is smaller and has integrated speakers, but the RD has SN EPs and better controller capabilities. I guess they'll cost pretty much the same, maybe the RD a bit more.


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Originally Posted by VivatRudolphus
Key action is different, the FP-7F uses the same action as the RD-700NX while the FP-4F the same as the RD-300NX. This explains the weight difference too.
Other minor differences, but they not matter much (looper, harmonizer).

I wonder why one should get the FP-4F and not the RD-300NX instead: integrated speakers? Size?
The FP is smaller and has integrated speakers, but the RD has SN EPs and better controller capabilities. I guess they'll cost pretty much the same, maybe the RD a bit more.


Ah, that explains.. eu site here didn't update yet..
integrated speakers and visual could be appealing for inhouse only use :-).

Thought when they updates the FP-4F with the Ivory feel, it would've been just as good as a FP-7F except the looper/harmonizer (not too impressive indeed)


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Originally Posted by VivatRudolphus
the FP-7F uses the same action as the RD-700NX


No, I believe the construction is a little different.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by VivatRudolphus
the FP-7F uses the same action as the RD-700NX


No, I believe the construction is a little different.

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I don't have an official source, but it's my belief that the only difference is in the materials used for the keys. The actual action should be the same.
I'm saying this because of various data I collected when looking for a DP, but mine is a belief like yours, so it could be wrong. smile

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I can't really tell a difference between the new Korg piano and the previously released one. It looks like they both have NH action. I think they just moved a couple of buttons smile Any news on Yamaha or Kawai?? Also, what do you Roland fans think of the FP4-F??

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Vivatrudolphus, I originally bought an RD-300 when replacing my FP2 (or was it FP3?), but the case I had to get was so huge because of its length that I replaced it with an FP4. Length matters!


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Originally Posted by WinNL
Just saw Korg is releasing a new piano.
As well as Roland upgrades its FP4 -> FP4F

Depending which board they get.. also ivory feel.. in that case... I wonder what the benefits of getting a fp7f is over an fp4f... if they got the same touch and sound.


These are the specs. It looks like there's less settings for the piano designer, so it appears that it features a "smaller" SuperNATURAL engine and it seems there's no editable tonewheel organ either.

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It looks like the speaker power has been boosted from 7w to 12W per side. Also, maybe the display is better than the current 3-digit LED?


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FP4 looks like a really solid beginner piano where you can go a long way with....


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Lots of new Clavinova models:

http://europe.yamaha.com/en/product...ds/digitalpianos/clp_series/?mode=series

Seems some of the CP1 technology has trickled down -- to what extent remains to be seen.

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Originally Posted by jve
Lots of new Clavinova models:


I've had a quick look at the specs... Sounds very promising! I mean, I have no idea how much marketing buzz is in there but it looks like a big improvement in sound, even IAFC is added to the mid price model, CLP440. Keyboard action seems unchanged. I will test drive them for sure once they're available in stores.

It is always interesting how much improvement of the sound they promise. I mean, if it's getting so much better each time they release a new model - how did they sound about 10-15 years ago?? Like a frying pan??


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Haha mucci ^_^,
I thought they were better in the old days comparing to Roland (well..accoring to my friend who sells 'm)

Only one thing I'm really not happy about in this piano industry....
Design...
Doesn't matter how new or old the piano is..they all look the same. With some exceptions there (Nord)
Roland's F110 probably not the only one) looks already much more contemporary. I know piano's remain classical instruments. Of course, a grand has definately it's charm.. but for digital piano's..comeone :-)! Especially since a lot of them are from countries who have design high on their name (germany, japan,...)

I'm sure a glass one would be cool (acoustic maybe not the best option ;-) ).
Anyways, maybe I'm the only one who thinks that =)


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Originally Posted by mucci
I've had a quick look at the specs... Sounds very promising! I mean, I have no idea how much marketing buzz is in there...
I had a quick peek at the specs of the CLP480. Quite funny, it's almost like marketing a perpetuum mobile when directly comparing the (peak?) output to the input power consumption: laugh Amplifiers Tri-Amp System (30W + 30W + 20W) x 2 + 20W x 2 and then I see that the Power Consumption is only 80W! This compared to for instance a Power consumption of 115W in case of my CA93, which is much closer to the sum of the respective amplifiers' powers, being 135W as listed by Kawai. Of course, I'm teasing Yamaha a little, but I'd like to know the real musical power. smile


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Meh... It seems like a minor upgrade since the last series. And the look is kind of boring. What's up with this 'foam' board?
Is it for when you get really frustrated and kick your piano? smile

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That CLP-465GP looks really nice. It seems like good competition for the RG-3F.


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Any Kawai news? They are my last hope since Yamaha and Casio did not release any reasonably priced DPs, and Korg just moved some buttons laugh

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DC_1988, four new Kawai models:

- CS6
- CS9
- CL26
- CL36

From another thread:

Originally Posted by myself
...product brochures for the new models will be available for download from the Kawai Europe and Kawai Japan websites shortly.

Until then, the 2011 General Products brochure contains photographs and specifications of the latest instruments, and may be of interest to you.

Kawai Products 2011 brochure


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Thanks James! Just went to the local Kawai dealer and tried out a few models. Will definitely be buying a Kawai over the Yamaha. James, any chance you know what kind of time it would take for the CA13 or the CL36 to be available to order from dealers??? I know, I know...probably a long time!

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DC_1988, the CA13 was announced in Japan and Europe last year and has been shipping for several months, however I'm afraid this model is not available in North America.

The CL36 will likely start shipping in Europe next month, however again, I don't believe this model will be available for US/Canadian customers.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

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That CL36 looks awesome. Saw it will cost around less then 1k pounds.... shame they don't make better models in this shape ^_^


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