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#1658580 - 04/11/11 10:26 PM Re: Questions About Julliard [Re: TylerNB]
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When I was 15 I did my school work experience with a piano tuner. I wanted to spend my time around music and pianos - and tuning sounded pretty cool to me. It was a family business - tuners and technicians, and a Yamaha dealership. I had a wonderful 2 weeks!

So... don't to be too quick to suggest that 14 year olds shouldn't strive toward being a tuner/technician. There is more to life than so-called financial success.

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#1658589 - 04/11/11 10:35 PM Re: Questions About Julliard [Re: LimeFriday]
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Originally Posted By: LimeFriday
When I was 15 I did my school work experience with a piano tuner. I wanted to spend my time around music and pianos - and tuning sounded pretty cool to me. It was a family business - tuners and technicians, and a Yamaha dealership. I had a wonderful 2 weeks!

So... don't to be too quick to suggest that 14 year olds shouldn't strive toward being a tuner/technician. There is more to life than so-called financial success.


Are you a piano tuner now?

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#1658616 - 04/11/11 11:09 PM Re: Questions About Julliard [Re: LimeFriday]
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Originally Posted By: LimeFriday
When I was 15 I did my school work experience with a piano tuner. I wanted to spend my time around music and pianos - and tuning sounded pretty cool to me. It was a family business - tuners and technicians, and a Yamaha dealership. I had a wonderful 2 weeks!

So... don't to be too quick to suggest that 14 year olds shouldn't strive toward being a tuner/technician. There is more to life than so-called financial success.


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#1658629 - 04/11/11 11:27 PM Re: Questions About Julliard [Re: Lingyis]
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Originally Posted By: Lingyis
Okay, if a tuner tunes, a technician regulates... then why be a tuner when you can be a technician? I don't get it.



Because it might be a better fit, which could be for various reasons.

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#1658642 - 04/11/11 11:45 PM Re: Questions About Julliard [Re: wr]
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Originally Posted By: wr
Originally Posted By: Lingyis
Okay, if a tuner tunes, a technician regulates... then why be a tuner when you can be a technician? I don't get it.



Because it might be a better fit, which could be for various reasons.



Like what? I can only think of farfetched examples such as:

1) Physical disabilities
2) Inability to log long hours
3) Financial constraints to enter full time technician school
4) Other disabilities which I'm ignorant of

None of which fits the bill with TylerNB as far as we know. Discussions need to be based on reasonable assumptions, and I think I'm trying to base them on reasonable assumptions.

Being a technician pretty much encompasses all the skills of a tuner. Again, using "tuner NOT EQUAL technician" definition.




Edited by Lingyis (04/11/11 11:55 PM)

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#1658649 - 04/11/11 11:54 PM Re: Questions About Julliard [Re: LimeFriday]
Lingyis Offline
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Originally Posted By: LimeFriday
When I was 15 I did my school work experience with a piano tuner. I wanted to spend my time around music and pianos - and tuning sounded pretty cool to me. It was a family business - tuners and technicians, and a Yamaha dealership. I had a wonderful 2 weeks!

So... don't to be too quick to suggest that 14 year olds shouldn't strive toward being a tuner/technician. There is more to life than so-called financial success.


Other than my post about tuners, which, apparently there are definition misunderstandings, I have repeatedly stated my stance.

I feel hypocritical to say "Don't people read everything I write?" because obviously had I read everything from one post to another, I would have caught on that most people don't draw a line between tuners and technicians.

Ultimately, it's my fault for just jumping in and posting a one-liner. I typically don't do that. I'll be kind of content to put this issue to a rest.

If anybody is offended, I apologize. I certainly jumped the gun there.

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On tuning pianos: When I was in grad school, a teacher arranged to have a short course (a morning or so) on tuning harpsichords. Students would register, and tune the one or two harpsichords we have at our school. I was too busy to attend, but a friend went, and he had lots of fun tuning the harpsichords once every little while.

Looking back, I really wish I had gone. Tuning harpsichords is clearly much simpler than tuning pianos, but it would have provided me with great insight.



Edited by Lingyis (04/11/11 11:56 PM)

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#1658702 - 04/12/11 01:32 AM Re: Questions About Julliard [Re: Lingyis]
wr Offline
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Registered: 11/23/07
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Originally Posted By: Lingyis
Originally Posted By: wr
Originally Posted By: Lingyis
Okay, if a tuner tunes, a technician regulates... then why be a tuner when you can be a technician? I don't get it.



Because it might be a better fit, which could be for various reasons.



Like what? I can only think of farfetched examples such as:

1) Physical disabilities
2) Inability to log long hours
3) Financial constraints to enter full time technician school
4) Other disabilities which I'm ignorant of

None of which fits the bill with TylerNB as far as we know. Discussions need to be based on reasonable assumptions, and I think I'm trying to base them on reasonable assumptions.

Being a technician pretty much encompasses all the skills of a tuner. Again, using "tuner NOT EQUAL technician" definition.




I have no idea about TylerB, really, but one could speculate that if his school-work is any indication, a piano technician project like regulating a piano might be beyond his attention span. smile

For the profession in general, being a tuner could be a better fit for a person simply because that is all they want to do for a job, and makes them all the money they care about. Or maybe the extra responsibilities involved in being a technician (technicians have more ways to wreck someone's piano than a tuner does) don't appeal. Or maybe they are little slow and being a technician is more challenge than they are comfortable with. Etc. Etc.

But the real point is simply that you aren't in a position to decide for others, and it sounded a lot to me like you felt like there is something inherently wrong about being an ordinary piano tuner. There isn't. It's a perfectly respectable and useful job, regardless of whether you think people should be more ambitious than want to be one.

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