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#16709 - 11/04/07 10:08 PM "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
Harling Offline
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Loc: Victoria BC
Does anyone know anything about Steinweg New York upright pianos?
I am considering purchase of this piano with a view to restoration and use by my son.
The piano says “Steinweg New York” on the fall board, and has no other makers mark anywhere in it that I can see. It has a serial number of 20969 and “78” is stamped on the top of three of the base keys.
Photos can be seen at http://picasaweb.google.com/HarlingPt/SteinwegPiano

Any information on this piano would be useful – I can’t find anything on the web about Steinweg’s made or labeled as made in New York.

Also, any opinions (assuming it is fundamentally a good piano) whether it is worth purchasing ($500) and restoring it. I have a couple of days to make up my mind. Thanks for your help.

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#16710 - 11/04/07 11:41 PM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
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Looks like a somewhat beat-up stencil piano (no-name brand with any kind of name stuck on the front) to me. Not anything to jump on. This kind of opportunity can come up weekly. If you are truly in love with it, call a local tech to check it out. You will hear that it needs work, and the price tag of that may put you off...
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#16711 - 11/05/07 12:13 AM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
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It is too old, too expensive, and not in good enough shape.
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#16712 - 11/05/07 12:29 AM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
Amy J Offline
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Registered: 10/19/07
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Ack! Wrong piano I'm commenting on. I hate that "back" button, by the way.

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#16713 - 11/05/07 11:07 PM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
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Not uncommon even around the turn of the century for builders to attempt to ride on the Steinway name by dubbing their piano with a close sounding name. If you want your son to learn to play piano buy him a contemporary instrument that can be tuned to concert pitch and can be regulated to have a consistant touch. Buy him an instrument not a home improvement project.
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#16714 - 11/06/07 12:30 AM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
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My opinion is to avoid it. Dishonesty on the fallboard is probably not backed up by quality construction. Just my two cents.

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#16715 - 11/06/07 01:08 AM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
Harling Offline
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Thanks everyone that replied, and so quickly too. You have pretty much confirmed where I was coming from, but nice to have a few additional opinions.

The search continues....Reading other threads, I think I might have to get my son off this island to try more pianos. Not a lot of variety to get a good feel for what works best for my son.

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#16716 - 11/06/07 04:47 PM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
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Wise choice to keep looking!!!
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#16717 - 11/06/07 11:31 PM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
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Originally posted by Harling:
Thanks everyone that replied, and so quickly too. You have pretty much confirmed where I was coming from, but nice to have a few additional opinions.

The search continues....Reading other threads, I think I might have to get my son off this island to try more pianos. Not a lot of variety to get a good feel for what works best for my son. [/b]
Not to cast aspersions on any of the (few) piano dealerships in Victoria doing what they can in a not-too-active market, but certainly your vision of the piano market will be enhanced if you can (afford to!) get off the Island and visit some dealerships on the Lower Mainland.

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#16718 - 11/06/07 11:48 PM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
Harling Offline
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BruceD - isn't that too true - the affording part. A few trips with the car would be a significant percentage of a reasonable used piano. And you feel rushed into a decision due to the cost of a revisit...
The piano dealerships in Victoria are great - nice people, very helpful and accommodating, not aggressive on the sales side, and so on. Just not much to choose from. For instance, have yet to see a Kawai, new or used and we have been looking for months now.

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#16719 - 11/07/07 01:34 AM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
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If you are looking in the $500 range, you won't find anything at a dealer, no matter how far you travel. If you are looking for a Kawai or similar, your budget has just increased up to 10 fold for a used one.
What is it you are looking for, and what is your budget? If you are thinking of a Kawai why do you entertain thoughts of buying a very old, beat up no name piano? Just curious about where you are standing - no offence intended...
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#16720 - 11/07/07 10:50 AM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
Harling Offline
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No offence taken at all. We are not looking in the 500$ range (we have a worn out Willis already that is now holding my son back), I just thought there was a chance that piano was something special that would be worth putting money into. At least thats what I thought before I went to look at it. I thought I would do one last check on that piano through this forum just to be sure I had got that part right.

The piano my son is in love with, but that really is out of our range, is a new Boston 118 upright (there are no larger Boston uprights to look at in Victoria). I also am not sure if it really is enough piano for him (he is 15 and play well, jazz, blues and lots of improvising of whatever is in his head). Those are a couple of reasons we want to try some used Kawai's to see if there are similarities that are equally attractive (due to their manufacturing relationship), but cheaper. Wer also just want to try as many different makes as possible to get him the best idea of what is out there and what turns him on the most.

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#16721 - 11/07/07 06:26 PM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
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Sounds like you are on the right track. It as always a good idea to try out as many pianos as you can, even those that are outside of your budget. It helps to give a context about what is available, and to hear and understand that there is not only a vertical hierarchy from bad to wonderful, but a lot of horizontal breadth as well, and this is where personal preference comes into play. Good luck in your search.
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#16722 - 11/07/07 06:50 PM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
Frank Offline
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Registered: 12/15/01
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Loc: Vancouver, B.C.
Harling,
You will find more dealerships in Vancouver.
The Heintzman dealer in Vancouver is also the Kawai dealer with most models (including the KX series made in China) for you to compare and they carry used Kawais and Yammies.
Allison Pianos in Victoria would be worth a look, it seems you've been to T.Lee/
Lan Copeland also carries a few Samick names.

Good luck
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#16723 - 11/07/07 09:12 PM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
Harling Offline
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Registered: 11/04/07
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We have been to all those places, several times, as well as Barkman who has a selection of used pianos.

Thanks for the tips and support everyone. We may well come back looking for some opinions if we start to narrow things down.

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#16724 - 11/07/07 11:59 PM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
SylviaM Offline
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 33
Loc: Metchosin BC
Dear Harling,

Hello! I just noticed on today's craigslist that someone is advertising a Kawai upright for sale in Victoria, and thought that you might not have seen it yet.

Cheers, from an almost-Victorian! (We are in Metchosin, land of chickens and sheep!)

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#16725 - 11/08/07 01:11 AM Re: "Steinweg New York" Upright - should I buy it?
Harling Offline
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Registered: 11/04/07
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Loc: Victoria BC
SylviaM - thanks so much, I had not checked Craigs list for a couple of days. I will definitely check it out.
I love Metchosin.
Harling

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