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#1671542 - 05/04/11 04:41 PM Ashton stageperformer 500
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Has anybody got , or had experience of using the Ashton stageperformer 500 ?
I have one and I have no complaints about the sound , more importantly the feel of the weighted "hammer action" keys and am generally happy.
However, the so called "manual" that I got with it is beyond comprehension in so far as relating it to the keyboard...
I know I can get more out of my keyboard, but not by virtue of the manual.....
Also, it appears impossible to contact Ashton???
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#1671638 - 05/04/11 07:08 PM Re: Ashton stageperformer 500 [Re: Rostosky]
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http://www.ashtonmusic.com/productView.asp?productID=557

The 'Contact Us' page suggests the company are based in the Czech Republic, however I'm sure that they will respond to your queries if you use the email form.

Cheers,
James
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#1671665 - 05/04/11 08:26 PM Re: Ashton stageperformer 500 [Re: Kawai James]
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James, thank you so much.
I should have mentioned the Box I got it in (here we go!) says designed in Australia and built in China....
So now I move on to eastern Europe !!
what a journey!
I will try and email and see what happens and let you know!
Thanks again, much obliged.
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#1671676 - 05/04/11 08:44 PM Re: Ashton stageperformer 500 [Re: Rostosky]
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Rostosky, my apologies. It appears that Ashton Music is indeed an Australian company (part of Australis Music Group), it's just that for some reason the first time I clicked the Contact Us page it listed a Czech Republic address.

If you select 'Australia' in the drop-down 'Country Selector' on the right hand side, the Contact Us information also changes. They appear to have offices/distributors throughout the globe, so just select the country that's closest to you.

I also took a brief look through the PDF of the StagePerformer 500 owner's manual and the operation looks reasonably straight forward. Is there any specific function that you require assistance with?

Cheers,
James
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#1672116 - 05/05/11 04:38 PM Re: Ashton stageperformer 500 [Re: Kawai James]
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James, thanks you have obviously taken some time and trouble and I am gratefull to you....
Without going into every (and there are a lot)issue with the manual, I can just say it appears to be for an earlier maodel than mine. Some of the menus are either not there, or more specifically are there in a different form!

Main Problem; The keyboard has as Duel voice facility, I can for instance set it up to play grand piano AND strings and adjust the level between the two as desired...lovely.
I can also use the split keyboard facility to have say strings in the bass and piano in the treble. (as well as set the split point)
However the manual does not seem to explain if I can have dual voice say strings and grand piano AND split mode so as I can have the stirngs and piano in the treble clef and something else in the bass clef below the split....
That actually is not a worry, but what is is this;
I have it say set on strings and piano,
I record onto the SD card, but only the piano is recorded....
To double check it was not a playback issue within the keyboard I took the sD card out and checked it in my PC and again only the piano was recorded............
The manual does not tell me anything on this issue........

Also it has two "out" phone jacks at the back, but if I use these into my mixer the keyboards own speakers are still audible... the only way I can seem to switch them off is if I use the two headphone jacks on the front of the keyboard and take them as the outs to my mixer......

This is an annoying thing because one speaker is a little "buzzy" I am thinking of opening it up and adding a pair of switches on the back to be able to turn the keyboards own speakers on and off....

The fact that there are 4 outs in total + midi out does however have bonuses, for example I can use the midi out through a laptop or pc with a programme like reason or ableton..and use the instruments in those programms, AND at the same time use the two phono outs at the back through a mixer and using the keyboards own voices add them to the ensemble...making the possibilities limitless.
But that recording just one voice issue is perplexing....
Thanks.
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#1672199 - 05/05/11 07:08 PM Re: Ashton stageperformer 500 [Re: Rostosky]
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Rostosky,

Originally Posted By: Rotosky
However the manual does not seem to explain if I can have dual voice say strings and grand piano AND split mode so as I can have the stirngs and piano in the treble clef and something else in the bass clef below the split....


If the owner's manual does not explain this functionality, I would suggest that it is indeed not possible to combine both functions simultaneously. Actually, while a number of instruments from Yamaha, Roland, Kawai, Casio, etc. offer similar Dual and Split playing modes, it's quite rare to find an entry-level product that allows both functions to be combined. This capability is typically reserved for mid/high-end stage pianos such as the Roland RD, Kawai MP, Yamaha CP etc.

Originally Posted By: Rotosky
That actually is not a worry, but what is is this;
I have it say set on strings and piano,
I record onto the SD card, but only the piano is recorded....
To double check it was not a playback issue within the keyboard I took the sD card out and checked it in my PC and again only the piano was recorded............


I expect this is because the instrument's recorder is only capturing the basic note on/note off data, and not additional information such as the panel button settings (e.g. piano being layered with strings). Opening the recorded .MID file (I assume it is a .MID file, yes?) saved to the SD memory on a computer confirms that only the piano events are being captured on a single track, rather than separate piano and string tracks.

Originally Posted By: Rotosky
Also it has two "out" phone jacks at the back, but if I use these into my mixer the keyboards own speakers are still audible...


This is standard behaviour for LINE OUT connectors on digital pianos.

Originally Posted By: Rotosky
...the only way I can seem to switch them off is if I use the two headphone jacks on the front of the keyboard and take them as the outs to my mixer......


The preferable method would be to use the LINE OUT connectors into your mixer, then plug a 1/4in. to 3.5mm converter jack into one of the headphone connectors to disable the built-in speakers.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,
James
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

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#1672635 - 05/06/11 04:17 PM Re: Ashton stageperformer 500 [Re: Kawai James]
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Thanks James, yes this is indeed very helpfull....
I guess I overestimated the keyboard.. ...
When I went into the music shop, this keyboard was on show and unlike the other cheaper keyboards the owner of the music shop would not let folk mess with it...
I wandered in , and immediately "spotted" it ,as soon as I touched it, I was impressed with the feel of the keys and response. (my determining factor is to shut my eyes and let it convince me it isn't a piano, 99.9% of keyboards have done this!)
However, with this one, I felt it close enough to warrant investigation...
There used to be a shop that sold Rolands , they had a single key + key mechanism on display to show folk that inside the roland was a real piano mechanism... I had played those, so knew my new keyboard was not a roland!
However at £567. The Ashton seemed a good alternative.
I argued some and got it for £500 with a stand thrown in for free, he sells the stands for £35 so I felt I had got a deal.

You mentioned "entry level" which has now made me look at my keyboard with an acusing eye......
I may save myself from total humiliation....
In a local museum...hidden away in the Welsh countryside here in the UK ..is a 1900's Collard and Collard grand...
I had a go on it and it is everything it should be....
Our government has slashed funding to librarys and museums and many are due to close.............
I will go and put my name on it for when that happens!!!
thanks again...
Extremely helpfull James.. magic.
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Rise like lions after slumber,in unvanquishable number. Shake your chains to earth like dew
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#1672782 - 05/06/11 09:52 PM Re: Ashton stageperformer 500 [Re: Rostosky]
Kawai James Online   content
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Rostosky,

Please note that I have not played the Ashton Stage Performer 500, and am therefore reluctant to comment on the quality of the instrument's keyboard action or piano sounds.

Best of luck securing the Collard and Collard grand!

Cheers,
James
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