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Coming back to the topic, I don't think we have to agree on whether there is "one wave," or not. But there isn't a lot of room for discussion when the entire concept of coincident partials is dismissed for "make 'em sound good." I don't think that helps me figure out under what circumstances I might want to make my bass octaves wider or narrower, and why or how it matters.

I have a customer who told me she didn't like the way I tuned the bass on her small console. They were my default, 6:3 octaves tuned m3/M6. We traded a couple of emails after that, and I promised we could work on it if she had me back again. She did, so I demonstrated how they sounded as I progressed from 8:4 width up through 4:2. She preferred the narrower ones, and when I was finished was happier with the way the piano sounded, even though I didn't particularly like the result.

Unfortunately, I got the feeling she took my commentary as pointing out that her ears were unusual. I tried to point out she was merely more discerning than many of my other customers, and having a particular taste was not a bad thing. I'll see if she responds to my next reminder shocked


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Jim, that is precisely the reason you need to throw out mathematical equations and start using your ear.
NO tuning is ever perfect. (period)
NOR does it last for ... ever,, or whatever the timeframe.

Personal opinion: minimal movement on pins stabilizes in the end. That means you let pitch drop a bit in winter,.. but don't go too sharp in summer. SM

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Oh! That's why I love this Forum. One can find here people really passionate about pianos! 3hearts yippie


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I quite agree on the perfection and permanence points. And I also prefer the experience of tuning aurally, even if I don't do it all the time, for various reasons. And, SM Boone, I thought your post was quite helpful in describing what you do.

When tuners discuss coincident partials, I don't think there is much going on with respect to "mathematical equations," as you imply. Talking about and using partial ratios does not equal ETD use.



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Originally Posted by SM Boone
I'm not sure where this post is at this point... but as an aural tuner I can offer that I tune bass as pure as possible and find that suits the ear best. There is nothing more pleasant than a low note that settles and lands where your ear expects it to be ...SM


Very well-stated. In the final analysis this is what really matters to the person who cuts our check.


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Yep, tune like Captain Jack Sparrow would. Use your Buccaneers! laugh laugh laugh


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