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#1687698 - 05/31/11 11:22 AM Now we know we're smarter
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Interesting article about musician's brains. The comments are also funny because of the typical pop vs. classical discussion. As one who has played on both the pop musuic and classical sides of the fence it seems to me classical probably provides much of the boost, but don't discount the value of improvisation and playing by ear in building a smarter brain, but you don't have to be smart to play 16 bars of G (as I did when I learned one ZZ Top song).

http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/05/18/do-musicians-have-better-brains/

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#1687713 - 05/31/11 11:40 AM Re: Now we know we're smarter [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Does that study apply to accordion players ... and singers?
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#1687719 - 05/31/11 11:56 AM Re: Now we know we're smarter [Re: Steve Chandler]
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It appears to apply to amatuer and professional classical musicians (including violists and tubists). Here's a link to the summary, sadly the full article costs $31 to download a pdf.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110505083421.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Latest+Science+News%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

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#1687721 - 05/31/11 11:57 AM Re: Now we know we're smarter [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Was this study funded by piano dealers? smile
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#1687746 - 05/31/11 12:29 PM Re: Now we know we're smarter [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Yay, just what this forum needs. More classical > pop snobbery.
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#1687802 - 05/31/11 01:25 PM Re: Now we know we're smarter [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Snobbery is a fine line, but I really do think that a LOT of pop culture is very lame (especially compared with the stuff that history remembered). My elitism is tempered by the knowledge of how incredibly unfashionable I am in every sense, heh.

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#1687861 - 05/31/11 03:08 PM Re: Now we know we're smarter [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Well, the article itself doesn't even compare classical vs. popular musicians, so the people getting their panties in a wad in the comments section (on the linked website, not here) are way off the mark. The article *also* doesn't compare musicians vs. nonmusicians, so it's not possible to argue that music confers a brain advantage from these data. Last but not least, the article is correlational, so it's impossible to draw any sort of causal conclusion about the role of advanced musical training. It could be any number of cognitive, motivational, and personality factors that are associated with becoming a professional musician that led to the differences.

In short, the data are intriguing but inconclusive.
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#1687876 - 05/31/11 03:24 PM Re: Now we know we're smarter [Re: 1RC]
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Originally Posted By: 1RC
Snobbery is a fine line, but I really do think that a LOT of pop culture is very lame (especially compared with the stuff that history remembered). My elitism is tempered by the knowledge of how incredibly unfashionable I am in every sense, heh.


Thats something I suppose lol
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#1688343 - 06/01/11 08:21 AM Re: Now we know we're smarter [Re: Steve Chandler]
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I knew it all along! smile ha
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#1688486 - 06/01/11 12:08 PM Re: Now we know we're smarter [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Words of wisdom from Monica!!

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