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#1686722 - 05/29/11 08:12 PM korg sp 170 vs casio px130
rich2k4 Offline
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anyone who has tried both, would you care to tell me the differences? which do you think is better?

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#1686737 - 05/29/11 08:58 PM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: rich2k4]
ChrisA Offline
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Originally Posted By: rich2k4
anyone who has tried both, would you care to tell me the differences? which do you think is better?


Not much help with your question. I could not decide which those two is best but I did just try a Korg SP250 and PX130 side by side at the local Guitar Center a few days ago. the SP250 has much better key action, but for a 50% higher price of "six something".

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#1686741 - 05/29/11 09:11 PM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: rich2k4]
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Originally Posted By: rich2k4
anyone who has tried both, would you care to tell me the differences? which do you think is better?

Personally, I like the sound/feel of the Korg better, but there's a lot of personal preference to this (and you might also want to try the Yamaha P95).

As far as features go, the Casio has buttons for simpler patch changes and a more logically located volume control. Korg has a MIDI output so it can be used as a simple MIDI controller, but no MIDI input so its sounds cannot be triggered by anything other than your fingers on the keyboard. Casio has USB so it can send MIDI in and out if you connect it to a computer, but has essentially no MIDI functionality unless you hook it up to a computer. To me, those are the big featue differences. You can download manuals for both from the manufacturers' web sites if you want to check out the differences in more detail.

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#1686750 - 05/29/11 09:33 PM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: rich2k4]
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i will be using the keyboard primarily for recording. connecting it to a computer and using VST's. The onboard sound will be good enough for practice away from the computer.

the most important thing to me is feel of the keys

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#1686795 - 05/29/11 11:57 PM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: rich2k4]
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The Korg has a newer action on the SP-170 which is not yet proven. It claims to have hammer action but it does not feel like they are there when the keys are pressed. You should plan on playing both the Korg and the Casio and make up your own mind about which action you like better. If you spend $200 more, you could get the Korg SP-250 which is better than both the PX-130 and SP-170. The piano sample on both the Korg and Casio is decent. Again, it comes down to personal preference Take a good pair of headphones and use them to compare the sound.

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#1687400 - 05/30/11 09:53 PM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: rich2k4]
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Originally Posted By: rich2k4
i will be using the keyboard primarily for recording. connecting it to a computer and using VST's. The onboard sound will be good enough for practice away from the computer.

the most important thing to me is feel of the keys


The Korg SP-170 only generates velocity signals from 0-80. The onboard sounds are calibrated to this. Using it as a midi controller is problematic unless you can edit your velocity curve to set fff to 80.

It's a great board for learning to play piano, nice action, nice sounds, nice looking. I don't recommend it as a controller.

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#1687662 - 05/31/11 09:57 AM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: tinknocker]
anotherscott Offline
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Originally Posted By: tinknocker
The Korg SP-170 only generates velocity signals from 0-80

Do you have a source for this? I checked out an SP-170 and did not see that problem.

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#1688007 - 05/31/11 06:35 PM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: anotherscott]
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Originally Posted By: anotherscott
Originally Posted By: tinknocker
The Korg SP-170 only generates velocity signals from 0-80


Do you have a source for this? I checked out an SP-170 and did not see that problem.


When I used it as a controller with sampled pianos I couldn't get anything above mf. When I hooked it up with Pianoteq I could see the velocity signals in the velocity curve editor. Pound it as hard as I dared, I couldn't get it above 80. You can compensate with Pianoteq setting fff to 80 and creating a curve from there.

I replaced the Korg with a Studiologic SL90xp. Much better keyboard, but only sends up to 110. Better than 80...

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#1688134 - 05/31/11 10:24 PM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: rich2k4]
anotherscott Offline
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I hooked up a MIDI velocity program to an SP170 a while back, and I'm pretty sure I was able to get to 127. I'd be curious to hear from anyone else here with the SP170, if they can see what max velocity it is putting out. I wonder if either you could have had a bum unit, or if they made a fix somewhere along the line...

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#1688461 - 06/01/11 11:38 AM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: anotherscott]
tinknocker Offline
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Originally Posted By: anotherscott
I hooked up a MIDI velocity program to an SP170 a while back, and I'm pretty sure I was able to get to 127. I'd be curious to hear from anyone else here with the SP170, if they can see what max velocity it is putting out. I wonder if either you could have had a bum unit, or if they made a fix somewhere along the line...


It didn't seem like a bum unit, it was 100% consistent acroos the keyboard. There is a limited number of samples, so it may have made sense to them to calibrate the internal sounds using a scale of 0-80. I bought it in February 2010, so if it was a design problem it may have been fixed since then.

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#1688469 - 06/01/11 11:51 AM Re: korg sp 170 vs casio px130 [Re: tinknocker]
anotherscott Offline
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Originally Posted By: tinknocker
It didn't seem like a bum unit, it was 100% consistent acroos the keyboard.

Just as a point of clarification... if it were a bum unit, it could still be 100% consistent across the keyboard... in fact, that's more likely than it being only on some keys (assuming that the keyboard was triggering the unit's internal sound consistently).

But yeah, either way, it could be okay now... Can anyone test this on another SP170?

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