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#1688975 - 06/02/11 02:35 AM How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ?
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Please write down im wondering so much, there are many senior people in this forum so im expecting colossal values.
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#1688983 - 06/02/11 02:53 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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Are we allowed to take real slow tempos? smile

I remember when we had to write papers of so-and-so-many pages, we would try to get away with making real big margins.... ha
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#1689007 - 06/02/11 04:24 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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I simply don't have the time required to figure out an answer for such a pointless question.
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#1689044 - 06/02/11 07:24 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores
I simply don't have the time required to figure out an answer for such a pointless question.


Let me ask you a DIFFERENT question then. What percentage of your repertoire do you think you could play in the time that took you to write this post? laugh
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#1689058 - 06/02/11 08:12 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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Because I'm learning a new programme and I've forgotten how to play my old one, 0 minutes as of now laugh .
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#1689065 - 06/02/11 08:43 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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Originally Posted By: Batuhan
Please write down im wondering so much, there are many senior people in this forum so im expecting colossal values.


I wish! If you asked me this fifteen years ago, it would have been quite a good while. Now, I can't reliably play things that I'm not currently studying. My job requires about 5 hours of pop/rock so classical is tough to keep up. How about a half hour? shocked

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#1689100 - 06/02/11 09:50 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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With or without music books?
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#1689109 - 06/02/11 10:03 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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Without? I am frustrated as it taks me a while to memorize pices, i suck at reading, but by the time ilearn something new, i "drop" a previous piece from my memory. It really sucks. Does this happen to you guys too? (the more senior guys)

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#1689152 - 06/02/11 11:15 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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I rarely perform from memory, so right now, the amount of memorized music I have ready is close to 0.

But in the last year, I've accompanied 15 recitals and 3 musicals, which means I've learned and performed about 21 hours worth of music. (Each recital was about 60 minutes of music and each musical had about 2 hours of music in it.)

I'm currently practicing for a music camp faculty recital - 10 minutes of solo and 50 minutes of accompanying, so that's the current project for the next couple weeks.
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#1689189 - 06/02/11 11:55 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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I don't understand the OP.
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#1689198 - 06/02/11 12:08 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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I have about 3 recitals worth of solo rep, but most of it is in bad shape so... I wouldn't count it.
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#1689329 - 06/02/11 03:22 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores
I simply don't have the time required to figure out an answer for such a pointless question.


Stores please be positive even once.


Edited by Batuhan (06/02/11 03:22 PM)
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#1689333 - 06/02/11 03:28 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores
I simply don't have the time required to figure out an answer for such a pointless question.


have you tried thinking about it? you apparently have time to browse threads about things you think are pointless.


Edited by Leland (06/02/11 03:28 PM)

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#1689427 - 06/02/11 06:11 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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Ok, I'll give it a shot. Are we talking about repertoire that I'd be willing, as of this moment, to walk out on the stage with or my all-inclusive repertoire which includes works that I'd prefer to have a week to re-visit before taking them to stage?
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#1689438 - 06/02/11 06:40 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores
Ok, I'll give it a shot. Are we talking about repertoire that I'd be willing, as of this moment, to walk out on the stage with or my all-inclusive repertoire which includes works that I'd prefer to have a week to re-visit before taking them to stage?


I'm not the original poster, but I would assume the latter.
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#1689440 - 06/02/11 06:42 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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The "one week preparation" vs. "walk on stage now" is a good distinction.

For me,
One week's preparation: 1.5 hours
Walk on stage right now: 20 minutes

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#1689477 - 06/02/11 07:42 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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Well, it's dinner time and I'll ponder the subject over shrimp alfredo (mmmmm!), but ready to go now rep...I'd say a rough guess-timate would be maybe 8 hours. The all inclusive would really take much longer to determine than I have patience for.
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#1689707 - 06/03/11 05:05 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: stores]
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#1689825 - 06/03/11 10:52 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Canonie]
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Originally Posted By: stores
Well, it's dinner time and I'll ponder the subject over shrimp alfredo (mmmmm!), but ready to go now rep...I'd say a rough guess-timate would be maybe 8 hours. The all inclusive would really take much longer to determine than I have patience for.
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#1689828 - 06/03/11 10:55 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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#1689833 - 06/03/11 11:07 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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Hmmm....if it has to be memorized, probably not even 1 hour. If I could use the music and had a week to prepare, probably around 3 (maybe more if you include non-solo).
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#1689861 - 06/03/11 11:58 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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umm.. I wonder how many minutes in stores' 8 hours involve a composer other than Bach?? I am thinking WTC I, WTC II, Goldberg var, English Suites, some partitas, fugues.. Include all the repeats ,and I think you are nearing eight hours.

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#1689873 - 06/03/11 12:14 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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How about this for another definition: Stuff we have performed and which didn't stink. smile

Me: Dunno, a bunch of hours. ha

Does it have to be in memory??

Does anyone know what would be answer for normal concert pianist?? whome
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#1689877 - 06/03/11 12:24 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: feebeeliszt]
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(I deleted my post because it was stupid.) smile
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#1689888 - 06/03/11 12:37 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: feebeeliszt]
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Originally Posted By: feebeeliszt
Originally Posted By: Mark_C
How about this for another definition: Stuff we have performed and which didn't stink. smile

Me: Dunno, a bunch of hours. ha

Does it have to be in memory??

Does anyone know what would be answer for normal concert pianist?? whome


Hmm, I do wonder about that. Mine is... yep, it's 0 hours, after much liberation. But concert pianists, year, how much of their repertoire is anytime performance-ready?
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#1690032 - 06/03/11 05:35 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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With or without repeats ?? grin

To answer your question...

By memory - about 30 minutes

With the score - a long, long time

Of course, I couldn't attest to the quality of any of this...


Edited by carey (06/03/11 05:43 PM)
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#1690261 - 06/04/11 05:09 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Batuhan]
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0...minutes. Currently.


Edited by pianojosh23 (06/04/11 05:09 AM)

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#1690269 - 06/04/11 06:38 AM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: Lingyis]
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Originally Posted By: feebeeliszt
Originally Posted By: Mark_C
How about this for another definition: Stuff we have performed and which didn't stink. smile

Me: Dunno, a bunch of hours. ha

Does it have to be in memory??

Does anyone know what would be answer for normal concert pianist?? whome


Hmm, I do wonder about that. Mine is... yep, it's 0 hours, after much liberation. But concert pianists, year, how much of their repertoire is anytime performance-ready?

I have seen from a thread here that to become a concert pianist, one needs to have a couple of memorised, ready-to-perform concertos in their active repertoire. Wonder if it is true.....
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#1690392 - 06/04/11 12:08 PM Re: How Many Hours Can You Play With Your Current Repertoire ? [Re: feebeeliszt]
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I have seen from a thread here that to become a concert pianist, one needs to have a couple of memorised, ready-to-perform concertos in their active repertoire. Wonder if it is true.....

I think that's one of the extremely lesser requirements. smile
And it's not something for which they have to go out of their way; they just do.

Your question seems to greatly underestimate who are the people who ever get close to "becoming" concert pianists. By the time they get anywhere within sniffing distance of it, I'd say 99.99% of them already have several concerti in their repertoire and have performed at least a couple with orchestra -- I mean anyway.

I'd add that for most active successful concert pianists, except those who are so high on the ladder that they can do whatever they want, they probably have numerous concerti that they could play on short notice.
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