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#1701001 - 06/24/11 05:17 AM Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever.
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Thanks for nothing guys. All the talk of how great the Roland V is so I worked out a trade for my CP1 even though I never really played one. I dropped off my CP1 and brought home a V. What a mistake.

A few things about the V. The action sucks for piano. Furthest thing from a piano action I have ever felt. It is springy and feels like plastic. Second, I can't get a good piano sound out of this damn thing. I'd take a Casio piano over the Roland V pianos any day. Good luck trying to create the sound of a real Steinway or Bosendorfer. You will have better luck trying to create the sound of flatulence. I also don't understand why you guys were saying the design is simple. It is full of buttons and lights and I'm not sure where to even start. Finally, there just aren't enough keys on this thing for some classical pieces so I think those of you saying that you are using it for classical must be playing children's pieces.



Edited by Hideki Matsui (06/24/11 05:19 AM)
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#1701005 - 06/24/11 05:29 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Dude, the recent talk has been about Roland V-Piano, not Roland V-Synth! Does it even have weighted hammer action? And no 88 keys, sorry, but I have to ask, what were you thinking when you made the trade?
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#1701006 - 06/24/11 05:34 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Bogs,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_the_piss

Godzilla, nicely done. wink

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#1701007 - 06/24/11 05:35 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Bogs]
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wow...can you get the CP1 back ?! Man I was trying to think of a way......
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#1701008 - 06/24/11 05:39 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Man, your V-Synth GT looks so cooooool..... grin

Methinks I should trade up (or should that be down?) my V-Piano for it. But will that mean I can't play the Grieg Piano Concerto anymore? cry
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#1701011 - 06/24/11 05:56 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Thanks for nothing guys. All the talk of how great the Roland V is so I worked out a trade for my CP1 even though I never really played one.

Rule #1 - try before you buy.

While I'm sorry to hear of your problem, I don't have a great deal of sympathy.
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#1701013 - 06/24/11 06:15 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Matsui san,

.....just brilliant!

I haven't laughed this hard in ages!

.......... you're a legend!

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#1701022 - 06/24/11 06:39 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Is April 1st 2012 coming early? I think our collective legs are being pulled .... or not?
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#1701054 - 06/24/11 08:12 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Thanks for your entry! You've made my day.
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#1701116 - 06/24/11 10:01 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Man this is the funnest thing I've heard all day.

Wow my recently purchased Pinto really sucks I thought you guys said they were good. Oh, damn, you guys meant Porsche not Pinto.


Edited by rickshapiro (06/24/11 10:05 AM)
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#1701184 - 06/24/11 11:41 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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The V piano ($7000US) key action can not compare to key action of a $4000 acoustic piano.


Edited by Hoang (06/24/11 11:42 AM)

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#1701213 - 06/24/11 12:43 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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rickshapiro, don't give-up the day job...

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#1701255 - 06/24/11 02:10 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hoang]
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This got to be a trollpost.
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#1701273 - 06/24/11 02:42 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Originally Posted By: Hideki Matsui
Thanks for nothing guys. All the talk of how great the Roland V is so I worked out a trade for my CP1 even though I never really played one. I dropped off my CP1 and brought home a V. What a mistake.


Hi Hideki,

Sorry to hear of your mistake but it appears that you are comparing the wrong "Roland V" to the Yamaha CP1. It is not the "V-Synth GT" but this, instead:

Roland V-Piano / Original model

There is a world of difference between the V-Synth GT and the V-Piano.

pv88

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#1701278 - 06/24/11 02:52 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Auver]
Hideki Matsui Offline
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I woke up this morning to check if I just had a bad dream, but when I went downstairs I found that indeed my beloved CP1 was gone.

I blame two people for this.

1) My father. It must be genetic, but we are easily confused. I remember as a child i asked him to buy me a Beatles album for my birthday and he got me the Bee Gees instead. The emotional scars of opening that in front of my friends live with me to this day. Which leads me to....

2) Bennevis. His constant talk about the V had me thinking I couldn't do without one. He kept calling it V-Power so that's what I asked for... Roland V-power. I should have known when the box was so light, but I figured all the talk about the significant weight was just wimpy classical piano player talk.

In any case, one good thing is that arpeggios seem effortless. Almost like all I have to do is close my eyes and hit one key. Also, my eight year old thinks it is much better than the CP1 and he is a budding musical savant on the pan flute.

Do you guys think practicing on the V all the time is going to hurt my piano technique?



Edited by Hideki Matsui (06/25/11 12:58 AM)
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#1701283 - 06/24/11 03:06 PM Most EPIC FAIL in the history of the internet. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Dude, that doesn't even have 88 keys. LMFAO!!!! (sorry)

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#1701284 - 06/24/11 03:06 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
pv88 Offline
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Perhaps it is not too late to pack up your V-Synth GT and take it to the store in exchange for the CP1?

Looks to me that the CP1 is the higher priced board (of the two), so would you have to pay any additional money just to get it back?

Also, you have 88 keys on the CP1, and, a more authentic action.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do!

pv88

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#1701290 - 06/24/11 03:18 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Originally Posted By: Hideki Matsui
I woke up this morning to check if I just had a bad dream, but when I went downstairs I found that indeed my beloved CP1 was gone.

I blame two people for this.

1) My father. It must be genetic but we are easily confused. I remember as a child asking him to buy me a Beatles album for my birthday and he got me the Bee Gees instead. The emotional scars of opening that in front of my friends lives with me to this day. Which leads me to....

2) Bennevis. His constant talk about the V had me thinking I couldn't do without one. He kept calling it V-Power so that's what I asked for... Roland V-power. I should have known when the box was so light, but I figured all the talk about it's weight was just wimpy classical piano player talk.

In any case, one good thing is that arpeggios seem effortless. Almost like all I have to do is close my eyes and hit one key. Also, my eight year old thinks it is much better than the CP1 and he is a budding musical savant on the pan flute.

Do you guys think practicing on the V all the time is going to hurt my piano technique?



+100 ! grin

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#1701298 - 06/24/11 03:24 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
rickshapiro, don't give-up the day job...

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You bet.
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#1701300 - 06/24/11 03:24 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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I'm still trying to get past how you have an eight year old AND a beautiful white room at the same time. What is your secret?
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#1701301 - 06/24/11 03:27 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: piRround]
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Originally Posted By: piRround
I'm still trying to get past how you have an eight year old AND a beautiful white room at the same time. What is your secret?


I'm still thinking this guy is putting us on.

Rick


Edited by rickshapiro (06/24/11 03:27 PM)
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#1701303 - 06/24/11 03:28 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: rickshapiro]
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Originally Posted By: rickshapiro
Originally Posted By: piRround
I'm still trying to get past how you have an eight year old AND a beautiful white room at the same time. What is your secret?


I'm still thinking this guy is putting us on.

Rick


I think so too but I still love the white room.
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#1701309 - 06/24/11 03:35 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: piRround]
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Originally Posted By: piRround
I'm still trying to get past how you have an eight year old AND a beautiful white room at the same time. What is your secret?


I absolutely do have an eight year old boy. Ok, he isn't a budding pan flute savant, but that's just proud parent hyperbole.

My secret? The easy part is that I'm Asian and don't wear shoes in the house. House keeper every other week helps. My real secret though lies in the lessons of the Dog Whisperer, Cesar Millan.


Edited by Hideki Matsui (06/24/11 03:36 PM)
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#1701310 - 06/24/11 03:41 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: rickshapiro]
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Originally Posted By: rickshapiro

I'm still thinking this guy is putting us on.

Rick


Just to clarify. I am not the real Hideki Matsui. I did own a CP1 just yesterday.




Edited by Hideki Matsui (06/24/11 03:43 PM)
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#1701312 - 06/24/11 03:44 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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You have an acoustic piano right there. Play that.

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#1701317 - 06/24/11 03:51 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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Lucky you didn't get a barrel of gasoline ! They could have mistaken it for Shell V-power - it doesn't sounds as good but it get's you further than you ever imagined...

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#1701321 - 06/24/11 03:58 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James


Godzilla, nicely done. wink

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I feel a bit like Andy Kaufman on the bongos right now.



Edited by Hideki Matsui (06/24/11 04:06 PM)
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#1701453 - 06/24/11 07:37 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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This has surely got to be one of the best threads of the year, so far. wink

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#1701553 - 06/24/11 11:25 PM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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I love that you have that beautiful bench in front of your new "V"!

I wasn't familiar with the CP1 you traded away, so I looked it up. I personally don't understand why everyone on the forum is so upset - I think you definitely got the better end of the deal. I was surprised to learn the CP1 is apparently quite portable, but its sound is rather brash from what I gather.

I'd say keep the V. smile

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#1701597 - 06/25/11 01:07 AM Re: Traded my CP1 in for a Roland V and it is the worst DP ever. [Re: Hideki Matsui]
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well.... that's really a funny joke :-)
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