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#1704752 - 06/30/11 06:18 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Batuhan]
Jolteon Full Member Registered: 04/11/11 Posts: 448 Loc: Perth, Australia	Originally Posted By: Batuhan My purpose is composing pieces that sounds like Chopin. Im at the behind of Chopin i dont wanna be famous or something like that im just finding hidden Chopin compositions in the nature and write them on the paper. I dont wanna develop my own style. I want just sound like Chopin. Sorry, I respect what you are trying to do, but why not just play Chopin? I don't see the point in trying to be Chopin. _________________________ Bach: Prelude and Fugue in C Major, WTC 1 Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody No 6 in Db Major www.youtube.com/jolteon206
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#1704759 - 06/30/11 06:42 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Jolteon]
Batuhan 500 Post Club Member Registered: 09/21/09 Posts: 810 Loc: Istanbul	Originally Posted By: Jolteon Originally Posted By: Batuhan My purpose is composing pieces that sounds like Chopin. Im at the behind of Chopin i dont wanna be famous or something like that im just finding hidden Chopin compositions in the nature and write them on the paper. I dont wanna develop my own style. I want just sound like Chopin. Sorry, I respect what you are trying to do, but why not just play Chopin? I don't see the point in trying to be Chopin. Im not trying to be Chopin, im just composing a new and fresh pieces in the style of Chopin. I cant be him thats impossible im not a genius i just love him very much and im using his style to compose beautiful music. And i think people pleased to hear. _________________________ Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve. Published: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major, 2 Preludes, Op. 12 in D-flat major.
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#1704766 - 06/30/11 07:06 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Batuhan]
Jolteon Full Member Registered: 04/11/11 Posts: 448 Loc: Perth, Australia	Originally Posted By: Batuhan Originally Posted By: Jolteon Originally Posted By: Batuhan My purpose is composing pieces that sounds like Chopin. Im at the behind of Chopin i dont wanna be famous or something like that im just finding hidden Chopin compositions in the nature and write them on the paper. I dont wanna develop my own style. I want just sound like Chopin. Sorry, I respect what you are trying to do, but why not just play Chopin? I don't see the point in trying to be Chopin. Im not trying to be Chopin, im just composing a new and fresh pieces in the style of Chopin. I cant be him thats impossible im not a genius i just love him very much and im using his style to compose beautiful music. And i think people pleased to hear. Fair enough. But remember: to create art like Chopin did, you must find, trust, believe in and be honest to only yourself. Until then, you can only be a 'Sunday painter.' _________________________ Bach: Prelude and Fugue in C Major, WTC 1 Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody No 6 in Db Major www.youtube.com/jolteon206
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#1707508 - 07/04/11 10:08 PM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Batuhan]
cast12 Full Member Registered: 12/14/09 Posts: 219	I'm very impressed with your waltz. It did sound a bit like Chopin, but that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
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#1708853 - 07/07/11 02:36 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: cast12]
JorgeBol Full Member Registered: 05/22/11 Posts: 98	Very nice piece. Although it did sound a lot like Chopin, I do believe that there was a bit of originality in there.
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#1712524 - 07/13/11 10:11 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Jolteon]
JorgeBol Full Member Registered: 05/22/11 Posts: 98	I think you are right on this one, but I also think that there is another Chopin waltz that is somewhat being represented here as well. But i can't quite remember which one it is either.
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#1720499 - 07/25/11 10:29 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: JorgeBol]
Batuhan 500 Post Club Member Registered: 09/21/09 Posts: 810 Loc: Istanbul	Originally Posted By: JorgeBol Very nice piece. Although it did sound a lot like Chopin, I do believe that there was a bit of originality in there. Thanks _________________________ Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve. Published: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major, 2 Preludes, Op. 12 in D-flat major.
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#1723869 - 07/31/11 12:58 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Batuhan]
soulshaker Full Member Registered: 01/05/11 Posts: 23	More, please. By the way, are there actually 35 opuses before this waltz of yours? I think it's good. But the melody is barely memorable to me. (Like some of Chopin's lesser music) I think you should keep going. Quote: Im not trying to be Chopin, im just composing a new and fresh pieces in the style of Chopin. I cant be him thats impossible im not a genius i just love him very much and im using his style to compose beautiful music. For God's sake, aim higher, man. You've written this, are you saying this is the best you can do? You think this is the pinnacle of "new and fresh" in Chopin style? Is there no room for improvement left anymore? It's very cool to hear, but I wouldn't pay a dime for it yet. It's not that great. (Nor is there anything posted on this forum I would pay for, as far as I've seen) I loved the thread you started in march "Chopin and Perfection". I think this said it all: Originally Posted By: Batuhan I mean perfect harmonization and great melodies they are touching hearts directly before the brain. Of course, there were just a load of intellectual responses; none of which actually answered the question: How do you get into the state of mind you need to write from the heart/pure emotion, as opposed to from (and thus, to) the brain? I know I can, when in certain moods, easily write 2-4 measures of music from the heart. Then, I start thinking about where it should go, what would sound right behind it, and it becomes crap. Well, crap? Brain-music. I know I FEEL music in me that can reach Chopin-quality. I just don't know how to translate it. Yet. I'll be following you if you decide to post more stuff.
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#1724044 - 07/31/11 02:12 PM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: soulshaker]
Batuhan 500 Post Club Member Registered: 09/21/09 Posts: 810 Loc: Istanbul	Originally Posted By: soulshaker More, please. By the way, are there actually 35 opuses before this waltz of yours? I think it's good. But the melody is barely memorable to me. (Like some of Chopin's lesser music) I think you should keep going. Quote: Im not trying to be Chopin, im just composing a new and fresh pieces in the style of Chopin. I cant be him thats impossible im not a genius i just love him very much and im using his style to compose beautiful music. For God's sake, aim higher, man. You've written this, are you saying this is the best you can do? You think this is the pinnacle of "new and fresh" in Chopin style? Is there no room for improvement left anymore? It's very cool to hear, but I wouldn't pay a dime for it yet. It's not that great. (Nor is there anything posted on this forum I would pay for, as far as I've seen) I loved the thread you started in march "Chopin and Perfection". I think this said it all: Originally Posted By: Batuhan I mean perfect harmonization and great melodies they are touching hearts directly before the brain. Of course, there were just a load of intellectual responses; none of which actually answered the question: How do you get into the state of mind you need to write from the heart/pure emotion, as opposed to from (and thus, to) the brain? I know I can, when in certain moods, easily write 2-4 measures of music from the heart. Then, I start thinking about where it should go, what would sound right behind it, and it becomes crap. Well, crap? Brain-music. I know I FEEL music in me that can reach Chopin-quality. I just don't know how to translate it. Yet. I'll be following you if you decide to post more stuff. I will post a Polonaise in B-flat major in 2 days. Yes there are 35 opuses before this waltz but they are not ready to publish. _________________________ Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve. Published: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major, 2 Preludes, Op. 12 in D-flat major.
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#1724163 - 07/31/11 07:33 PM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Batuhan]
Lluís Full Member Registered: 09/09/09 Posts: 188 Loc: Barcelona,Spain, European Unio...	Great job Batuhan ! you're a really good artist! I'm sure you would have been a great Chopin pupil! Edited by Lluís (07/31/11 07:34 PM) _________________________ 1942 Challen Baby Grand Piano 1855 Pleyel Pianino (Restoring -> www.pleyelrestoration.blogspot.com )
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#1753970 - 09/17/11 06:46 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Lluís]
Batuhan 500 Post Club Member Registered: 09/21/09 Posts: 810 Loc: Istanbul	Originally Posted By: Lluís Great job Batuhan ! you're a really good artist! I'm sure you would have been a great Chopin pupil! I can give my everything to be a Chopin's pupil i wish i was born in 19th century. Edited by Batuhan (09/17/11 06:47 AM) _________________________ Sorry for my English, I know it sucks, but I'm trying to improve. Published: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major, 2 Preludes, Op. 12 in D-flat major.
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#1756422 - 09/21/11 07:28 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Batuhan]
JAROSŁAW Junior Member Registered: 09/19/11 Posts: 8 Loc: Poland	Hats off, gentlemen! A genius. Note: Renew your box.net link. Edited by JAROSŁAW (09/21/11 07:45 AM)
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#1756470 - 09/21/11 09:24 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Batuhan]
Psychic Ravel Full Member Registered: 09/21/08 Posts: 98	I don't see the problem with sounding just like Chopin at all, it's a sign of skill that one can replicate the style of other composers, and the more authentically this can be done, the more skill the composer has. Being original just for the sake of being original is silly. To my instinct it would be detrimental to one's development as a composer to try to be original early on - copying the techniques of other composers is how one learns. Anyway, I've only listened to half the piece so far, but the handling of Chopinesque, mid-Romantic harmony is strong, he has a great feel for the Chopin style. Also, his playing of it is enjoyable! Edited by Psychic Ravel (09/21/11 09:26 AM)
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#1757844 - 09/23/11 06:19 AM Re: Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major [Re: Psychic Ravel]
Jolteon Full Member Registered: 04/11/11 Posts: 448 Loc: Perth, Australia	Originally Posted By: Psychic Ravel Being original just for the sake of being original is silly. Copying Chopin just for the sake of copying Chopin is even more silly, in my opinion. _________________________ Bach: Prelude and Fugue in C Major, WTC 1 Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody No 6 in Db Major www.youtube.com/jolteon206
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