That's how people listen to music?

(No, it isn't.)

About your being arrogant and obnoxious.

Even your last post was again in the "I'm right, you're wrong!" vein. Sounds like a child talking. You don't get it.

Well, if you're serious, let's look at it seriously.

Did you not hear "2 beats per measure" in that first recording that he posted?

Depending on whether you did, we can take it from there, and we'll see.

I meant when you're playing the piece. If the music is in 3/8 and not fast, it's 3 beats, so you are being told there is a clear 3 beat pattern. Not the most difficult thing in the world.

If he sounds like a child talking, why are you wasting your time here? I really don't understand. Frankly, we don't even have a clue about your level of playing. You refuse adamantly to record yourself playing (probably for very good reasons). All you do is preach and bug people who have >10K posts. Can you really walk the talk pianoloverus? In this discussion so far, only you have been condescending to another person by calling him names. Mark is entitled to his opinion that you are wrong. You don't have to write 2K posts about the fact that what people state are just opinions and not facts. Even Science to an extent is just opinion (because of alternative formulations, etc). So why make a big deal out of facts vs opinions? In Mark's opinion, you are plain wrong. In your opinion, you are right. Now what do you want to discuss here in addition to this insightful point you've raised?

That's some monotonous 12K posts!

Thanks.
Let's see if he's willing to really look at it.

I don't mind if he's not, but then of course there's not a whole lot more for him to say about it. And if he is, it'll be interesting to follow it through.

The Liszt edition presents the sonatas in order of difficulty. One assumes that Liszt was responsible for this ordering but there is no written commentary on the edition I have. Anyway, the three sonatas in question appear in volume 2 and are ordered, non-consecutively, Moonlight, Op31 No2 and Appassionata. Interestingly, Op26 comes at the end of volume 1 before Op31 No3 but after Op2 Op7 Op22 Op 28 Op 10 Op13 (and some others).

John

John,

If you get a chance, would you mind listing out the order of the sonatas in the Liszt edition? I've heard that indeed he was responsible for the ordering, and it corresponded to some notion he had of difficulty. I've always been curious to see it, but I've never gotten my hands on that edition.

Thanks-

-Jason

Ok, here goes:

Volume one

1 Op49 No2
2 Op49 No1
3 Op79
4 Op14 No2
5 Op14 No1
6 Op2 No1
7 Op10 No1
8 Op10 No2
9 Op2 No2
10 Op2 No3
11 Op10 No3
12 Op13
13 Op22
14 Op28
15 Op7
16 Op78
17 Op26
18 Op31 No3


Volume two

19 Op31 No1
20 Op90
21 Op27 No1
22 Op27 No2
23 Op54
24 Op31 No2
25 Op53
26 Op81a
27 Op57
28 Op101
29 Op110
30 Op109
31 Op111
32 Op106

There you go - I hope I haven't made any mistakes.


John