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#171497 - 01/07/05 04:33 PM Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Larry Negro Offline
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Registered: 01/07/05
Posts: 2
Loc: Lower Gwynedd, PA
I'm in the market for a Yamaha C series piano (C6 or C7 to be specific. I read the piano book....couple of reviews etc. and I thought I'd throw it out to the piano world at large, to get some feedback on these models.

I lilke the Yamaha sound and will probably get the Pianodisk system installed in it since a new Yam with Diskclavier is out of my reach.

Almost had a C7 from the guy in Florida which was a fantastic buy, but someone beat me to it.

Can anyone with or without Yamaha experience (C6, C7 and pianodisk) give me some comments on the pros and cons of this series. I should add that I am a writer not a pianist.....but I know the difference between a good and bad piece (lots of research).

Thanks for your help

Larry
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#171498 - 01/07/05 04:50 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
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I've tuned hundreds of them over 30 years. They are exceptional; suitable for almost all pianists. Durable, tune like a dream, sound great.

No, I do not sell Yamaha (or any other brand)
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#171499 - 01/07/05 04:55 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Works1 Offline
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Registered: 12/12/04
Posts: 407
Loc: New York
The C7 is a fantastic instument. The action is incredible. The bass is booming. As far as Yamahas go, there is no better. As for the C6, although it is only 7 inches shorter at 6'11" I don't think it measures up the C7 at all but that is just my opinion.

Good luck in your search.

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#171500 - 01/07/05 06:01 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
David Burton Offline
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Registered: 05/28/01
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Loc: Coxsackie, New York
Indeed, as others have suggested a C7 just might be Yamaha's best all around grand piano.
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#171501 - 01/07/05 06:10 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Bob Offline
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I can think of several c-7's I regularly tune that I'd put in my house in a minute. They are great sounding, solid instruments. Many bands cart them around on tour.
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#171502 - 01/07/05 07:02 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Steve Ramirez Offline
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Registered: 08/08/01
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Loc: El Cajon, California
A used C7 can be an unbeatable value. I've seen many offered for just under 20K and that's not much more than what some folks will pay for a good used C3. Not many first-time piano buyers are interested in a 7'6" piano. It's mostly professionals and experienced pianists who are interested in C7s.

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#171503 - 01/07/05 08:40 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
victor kam Offline
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Registered: 12/17/02
Posts: 419
Loc: Malaysia
I got a 1974 C7, upgraded to new parts last year when i purchased it as second hand (well, third hand to be precise). Still maintaining the old action, plays wonderful but not perfect like a new one. It won't be fair to comment on the sound as the new hammers are not Yamaha hammers. Someone with the original C7 will be in a better position to do that.
Action is very fast and responsive, touch is in the middle of the road, great for playing fast pieces and at the same time allowing sufficient control over slow pieces. All I can say is that the hands feel good when playing it. I live in the tropics, doors and windows open with continuous 26C to 32C all year round. Action has not gotten stuck at all, no dehumidifier, no heating rod.
I do think that it is a powerful piano (though I don't need the power whatsoever in the home setting).
I seriously think one can't go wrong getting a C7.
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#171504 - 01/07/05 08:50 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Carpe Diem Offline
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Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 3
Loc: Carmel, Indiana
Hi Larry,

While I could easily be considered biased... I sell Yamaha and Steinway pianos for a living...

...The fact is, after 14 years in education, I joined this industry having specifically decided to only work in piano sales if i could represent instruments with the proven levels of quality of these two manufacturers.

A new C7 is an excellent choice for a "lifelong musical companion" for someone like yourself who likes the Yamaha sound, and recognizes the value of quality.

Behind my desk is a sold C7 which Jim Brickman signed during a performance here in town. It is an absolute pleasure to play and a source of envy for those of us who do not have the space (or budget) for such a fine piano.

The only other piano at our store capable of providing serious competition would be a nicely voiced model B Steinway with a very broad dynamic range.

I am confident that if you go forward with this. It should bring you great satisfaction.

Enjoy!
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#171505 - 01/07/05 08:57 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
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The C7 is perhaps the *best* Yami grand:
I personally often liked it better than even the allegedly higher quality S- series.

Needless to say that price for this piano has to be measured in terms of what else is out there.

As a dealer for Pramberger, I would have no difficulty to throw a JP 228 [7'6 grand] against it - but my point is not to distract you at this point.

Best of luck in finding the right piano.

Norbert \:\)
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#171506 - 01/07/05 09:37 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
MaryAnna Offline
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Registered: 10/03/04
Posts: 400
Loc: Florida
Hi, Larry,

I bought a used C7 this summer. I could not, and still cannot, believe that I have an instrument of this quality in my home, particularly considering my budget--less than $20,000.

It's a 1983 model, yet the tone is warm and the action is still impressively smooth and even. I spoke with the technician who maintained it all those years. He said that the previous owners cared for it meticulously but, still, 20 years is a long time. I think its current condition speaks well for the quality of its construction.

The bass, in particular, sounds warm, strong, and clear. Actually, it makes my knees melt. Every note is distinguishable, even in "thick" chords that would have turned muddy in the lower register of my previous piano, a 5'8" Baldwin that needed rebuilding very badly.

I'd also say that it has a very good sustain, because I've recently noticed that I'm using the damper pedal much less than I once did.

I really don't have a single complaint. If you find that a C7 is the piano that speaks to you, I think you'll be happy with it for a long time.

Mary Anna
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#171507 - 01/08/05 05:36 AM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Jeanne W Offline
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Registered: 01/28/04
Posts: 1240
Loc: New England
I played a few C7's during my piano search. I liked them very much! I thought the C7s sounded significantly better than the smaller Yamaha grands.

Maryanna: Your comment about chords in the lower registers being clear interests me. You say "every note is distinguishable, even in 'thick' chords that would have turned muddy in the lower register..."

Chords in the lower register turning thick and muddy is something I've heard on various grand pianos, including Steinways and Grotrians. (Grotrian bass sounds like "chocolate" melting together; Steinway also not super well defined.)

Also, Maryanna, I am a little surprised that you say your C7 has "good sustain". In my experience, this is one area Yamahas failed to deliver - I thought they had unusually quick decay. I'm wondering, if perhaps, C7s are better in this regard than the smaller Yammies and I just didn't notice it? Does anyone here think C7s have better sustain than the smaller Yamahas grands?

Jeanne W
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#171508 - 01/08/05 06:08 AM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
yraglac Offline
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Registered: 12/02/03
Posts: 13
You should look at a RX6 or RX7 Kawai.
Have A look at the Bridge.
Go and Check on a Steinway B or D. (bridge)
All these pianos used one piece bridge (Bass and treble brige are in one piece)

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#171509 - 01/08/05 06:21 AM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
victor kam Offline
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Registered: 12/17/02
Posts: 419
Loc: Malaysia
yraglac,
Can you tell us what the one piece bridge thing has do to the sound? Does it have more sustain? Thanks.
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#171510 - 01/08/05 06:59 AM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Larry Negro Offline
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Registered: 01/07/05
Posts: 2
Loc: Lower Gwynedd, PA
Thank you all for your wonderful comments and praise of the C7. I've been floundering for awhile now trying to decide if I want to go this big, but I'm convinced. In this case "more is definitely better".

Larry
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#171511 - 01/08/05 07:21 AM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
MaryAnna Offline
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Registered: 10/03/04
Posts: 400
Loc: Florida
 Quote:
Originally posted by Jeanne W:
Maryanna: Your comment about chords in the lower registers being clear interests me. You say "every note is distinguishable, even in 'thick' chords that would have turned muddy in the lower register..." [snip]

Also, Maryanna, I am a little surprised that you say your C7 has "good sustain". In my experience, this is one area Yamahas failed to deliver - I thought they had unusually quick decay. I'm wondering, if perhaps, C7s are better in this regard than the smaller Yammies and I just didn't notice it? Does anyone here think C7s have better sustain than the smaller Yamahas grands?

Jeanne W [/b]
Hi, Jeanne,

Yes, I really enjoy my piano's clarity in the lower registers. I've also wondered if this may be one of the matters of perception that divides people that like Yamahas from those who find them too bright. A piano that sounds clear to me might sound bright to someone who prefers a "chocolatey sound." A piano that sounds warm to a "chocolate-lover" might sound muddy to someone like me, who prefers a "champagne-like" sound. Wow, now I'm hungry and thirsty!

I did get a recent unbiased opinion on the C7's tone--my Baldwin-playing teacher sat down to play it and, after just a few chords, said, "Oh, it has a really warm sound."

My observation on its sustain is very subjective. Someday I'm going to do the scientific thing and time it, and I may find that my perception is totally wrong. I just based my observation on the fact that I'm using the sustain pedal less. Maybe my legato playing is just improving!

As for comparing it to other Yamahas, I played quite a few new and used ones, mostly C1s, C2s, and C3s, during my search. I could have taken many of them home and been happy. They were a world better than what I owned at the time. But their sounds didn't touch me, positively or negatively. Not offensively bright. Not particularly warm. Just a nice piano sound that I enjoyed hearing but didn't take a violent fancy to.

The C7 was different. Its sound touched me from the first note. The touch suited my playing perfectly, so that I could play fast passages better as soon as I sat down. Perhaps this is the advantage of playing for a long time on a substandard instrument. You really appreciate a good one! \:\)

Was it because it was used and had been "played in?" Was it just a particularly good piano? Heck if I know. The only thing in my mind at that moment was figuring out how to tell my husband that I had left the house looking for a baby grand and had come back home in love with a 7-footer. \:D Fortunately, since it was used, the price differential wasn't all that bad, so I got my dream piano.

I hope everybody on the board gets their dream piano, too!

Mary Anna
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#171512 - 01/08/05 09:19 AM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Axtremus Offline
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Registered: 08/29/03
Posts: 6150
 Quote:
Originally posted by yraglac:

You should look at a RX6 or RX7 Kawai.
Have A look at the Bridge.
Go and Check on a Steinway B or D. (bridge)
All these pianos used one piece bridge (Bass and treble brige are in one piece)
Nah... I own a Kawai and I dig the 7' and larger good Steinways with the one-piece bridges, BUT, if the sound of a piano is good, who cares whether it has a one-piece or two-piece bridge? If the C7 sounds good to you, the bridge delivered, whether in one piece or two. ;\)

And yes, count me as a C7 fan as well. Big fan.

Larry Negro, good luck. \:\)
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#171513 - 01/08/05 03:16 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Karen Bretz Offline
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Registered: 12/17/02
Posts: 215
Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
I have been extremely pleased with my C7 (serial number 5.5 million). It's an imposing piano and lives in a relatively small space, but does not sound out of place. It has been troublefree. A relatively new, used C7 can be an extremely good value. You may not feel totally welcome on this board as a Yamaha owner, but don't let that persuade you to spend twice as much for a European brand so that you feel like you are part of the "in" crowd.

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#171514 - 01/08/05 07:20 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
cps Offline
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Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 171
Loc: Sydney, Australia
The C7 is an awesome piano, and even though Yamaha is not one of the preferred brands on this forum, this model gets plenty of respect here. I don't think you'll find too many people saying bad things about it, unless they're "personal taste" comments.

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#171515 - 01/08/05 07:31 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
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There are always a couple on e-bay at what appear to be good prices.
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#171516 - 01/16/05 05:31 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Evelyn Offline
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Registered: 10/12/02
Posts: 1
Loc: New Jersey
The C7 is a great piano. It has a much richer fuller sound than the smaller Yamahas. I play a smaller Yamaha at the local piano school regularly, and I'm always happy to come home to my C7. The C7 also holds its tune well. Even the change from winter to summer weather doesn't throw it off much. [This doesn't mean you should neglect tuning it regularly.]

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#171517 - 01/16/05 07:33 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
I. Bruton Offline
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Registered: 10/20/04
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Loc: Raleigh
What more needs to be said! Go get your C7 and be happy! I envy you.
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#171518 - 01/16/05 09:06 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
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Let's not forget that every time a question like this comes up one is tempted to comment:
"yeah, great piano...but for same price..... :rolleyes: "

But since you didn't ask us to go there just....

.... go for it!!

Yeah....great piano!! \:D

[Serious!]

Congratulations and wishing you much joy with the instrument!

Norbert \:\)
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#171519 - 01/20/05 04:31 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Roger Ransom Offline
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Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 1227
Loc: SouthWest Michigan
I bought my Yamaha C7 in 1968. It was built in 1961 and we bought it for about $3,500.00. Most people didn't want it because it had a cracked sound board and was too big for most peoples taste.

The sound board had been repaired and I couldn't hear anything wrong with it so I bought it. Probably the best purchase I ever made. I've played 2 or 3 hours a day the last few years so it lots of hours on it. It sounds wonderful, clear and full. The bass is so smooth and sweet that sometimes I concentrate my arrangements lower just so I can hear it myself. we originally had it in a large hard room (wood floors and plaster ceiling), it is now in a much smaller room that has carpeting on the floor and an acoustic ceiling and it sounds great in both.

The action is still tight and quiet. I've had it regulated once or twice but stays regulated for long periods of time. I had one set of hammers installed because I had worn them flat right down to the core.

Now the pins are getting a little loose and I'm getting quotes on replacing the pin block. At the same time I'll probably get new strings, have the sound board repair checked and/or redone, the plate refinished and whatever else it needs. The case is not perfect anymore but it still looks good and the key tops are excellent.

I measure the sound and action of all other pianos against this one and they all fall short in my opinion (the only one that really counts to me). I have not spent a lot of time with a 9' Steinway, Bosendorfer or Yamaha and it's probably just as well because I might not be so satisfied.

This piano is part of me and I would (and do) recommend a Yamaha C7 to anyone.

I cannot speak for any other Yamaha of course.

This is my baby.
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#171520 - 01/23/05 11:29 AM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
Roger Ransom Offline
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Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 1227
Loc: SouthWest Michigan
My last post regarding my Yamaha is absolutely true. However, I was wrong about the Model. It's actually a Yamaha G7, I don't think they made a C7 at that time. I don't know if they are the same, similar or what but anyway just take what I said with a grain of salt. I apologize for any confusion.

Regardless, it's a great piano and the C7 probably is too.
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#171521 - 01/23/05 07:52 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
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Registered: 10/20/04
Posts: 861
Loc: Raleigh
Roger,

If you like the 7 foot Yamis, wait until you get a hold of a CFIIIS. Its response will blow you away. I also think it will outperform any Steinway D.
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#171522 - 01/24/05 07:00 AM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
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Registered: 03/06/03
Posts: 99
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Originally posted by Carpe Diem:


Behind my desk is a sold C7 which Jim Brickman signed during a performance here in town.[/b]
Is Jim Brickman a Yamaha artist? I enjoy his music (simple to play, but fun to work with and add onto...for those of us who don't have time to compose, but like to tweak)

-pedagogue

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#171523 - 01/24/05 06:11 PM Re: Opinion of Yamaha C7 - Newbee here
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Registered: 09/15/04
Posts: 20
Loc: Los Angeles
I spend time to play the yamaha grands C3,C5,C6,& C7, then play other like Young Chang, Kawai, ... Bosen, Bechstein, & Steinway. Thus, any size of Yamaha from C3 compare to any other pianos for the same size or value. Yamaha beat them all! the shaft design cabinet, look, key touch, sound, value are too nice seriously !
Unless there is whole lot of money to spend then that is ofcourse not the point IMO
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