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#1718274 07/21/11 07:19 PM
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A specific thread where I would post my compositions, arrangements and recordings and share them with everyone.

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Ocean Reflections In E major No. 1


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Your music is always very soothing, Saul. I like it! smile



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Thank you!

I have another one of these Ocean Reflection...


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Performing my 'Love In the Forest' In G major for Piano...


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Moonlight Sonata

Here's a performance of a well-known work. Within the bounds of artistic licence or ... well ... just terrible?

(Sorry Saul, but you DID say you didn't want criticism. And I NEVER do what I'm told.)

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Originally Posted by Exalted Wombat
Moonlight Sonata

Here's a performance of a well-known work. Within the bounds of artistic licence or ... well ... just terrible?

(Sorry Saul, but you DID say you didn't want criticism. And I NEVER do what I'm told.)


What my performance of the moonlight sonata has to do with anything here?

Or spamming people's threads is your hobby?

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This thread is specifically to "post my compositions, arrangements and recordings and share them with everyone".

So your performance is definitely on-topic.

It was quite a serious question, actually. I recently heard a performance of the "Moonlight", by an established artiste, which seemed to me to take mannered "expressiveness" to ridiculous lengths. The underlying triplet movement (which seems to me the unifing and propelling factor of the piece) was ripped to shreds, far beyond any concept of rubato.

So I started a mini-project, collecting recordings of the piece on Spotify and comparing the performances. I found a lot of refusals to embrace the essential simplicity of the music. Some went so far as to be, IMO, laughable. But, obviously, they were acceptable in the classical piano world.

My hobby is debunking foolishness.

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Originally Posted by Exalted Wombat
This thread is specifically to "post my compositions, arrangements and recordings and share them with everyone".

So your performance is definitely on-topic.

My hobby is debunking foolishness.


Well, I didn’t post this performance here, so why post it here without my permission, who gave you this right?

You have absolutely no legal right to do anything with my music or videos without my permission.

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Interesting point. I didn't "do anything" with your music, of course, just mentioned that it existed on a web site that you had previously publicised. If you're ashamed of it, you know what to do. But if you present your work on a discussion forum, expect it to be discussed! You can't enforce special rules.

Note that I've expanded my previous comment.

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I like your art work though!

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Originally Posted by Exalted Wombat
Interesting point. I didn't "do anything" with your music, of course, just mentioned that it existed on a web site that you had previously publicised. If you're ashamed of it, you know what to do. But if you present your work on a discussion forum, expect it to be discussed! You can't enforce special rules.

Note that I've expanded my previous comment.


Perhaps you have no understanding of copyrights issues, so let me inform you. You have absolutely no right whatsoever to do anything with my music or videos without my permission, get this clear. First clear up your foolishness and then preach others to do the same.

So I strongly advice you to delete the video you posted, I have not granted you any right to post it here, so delete it.

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I have not posted your video. I have posted a link to your web site, http://www.musicalpaintings.net, which you publicise repeatedly in each of your messages here. If there's anything there not for public consumption, it is completely within your power to remove it.

Wanna play some more?

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Originally Posted by Exalted Wombat
I have not posted your video. I have posted a link to your web site, http://www.musicalpaintings.net, which you publicise repeatedly in each of your messages here. If there's anything there not for public consumption, it is completely within your power to remove it.

Wanna play some more?


You posted a link to a video on my website.

I wonder who in the world gave you this right?

All the content of my website is copy righted. You have no right to use it, post it, or do anything with it without my consent. So I advice you to remove the link.

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My two cents:

Exalted Wombat, you're just being combative and provocative, and I think you know it. "Debunking foolishness" is a worthwhile hobby when applied to pseudoscience and faith healers; on internet forums devoted to artistic merit it's completely counter-productive and it's just going to get you reprimanded. Saul's made it clear that he doesn't want this kind of criticism, and he's nicely complied with a request to consolidate his compositions into a single thread. Why muck up his thread with unwanted bickering?

That said, Saul: Wombat has a legal (and IMO moral) right to link to any recording he finds on the internet, especially one on youtube. If you don't want it linked to, take it down.

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My two cents:

Exalted Wombat, you're just being combative and provocative, and I think you know it. "Debunking foolishness" is a worthwhile hobby when applied to pseudoscience and faith healers; on internet forums devoted to artistic merit it's completely counter-productive and it's just going to get you reprimanded. Saul's made it clear that he doesn't want this kind of criticism, and he's nicely complied with a request to consolidate his compositions into a single thread. Why muck up his thread with unwanted bickering?

That said, Saul: Wombat has a legal (and IMO moral) right to link to any recording he finds on the internet, especially one on youtube. If you don't want it linked to, take it down.

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Of course he does, I just wanted him to see that been an '$$$$ole' wont get him far with me...

Anyways, thanks for saying it like it is. I appreciate your comments.

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"My hobby is debunking foolishness." Looks like you're learning how to do it for yourself! :-)

That really was a bloody awful rendition of the "Moonlight" though.

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Originally Posted by Exalted Wombat
"My hobby is debunking foolishness." Looks like you're learning how to do it for yourself! :-)

That really was a bloody awful rendition of the "Moonlight" though.


So it was a 'bloody awful rendition' hope youre satisfied now….

I’m very pleased by those who have sent me their complements in the mail.
Music lovers from all over the internet have told me that they enjoyed this performance.
A single voice in the wilderness that doesn’t like it, doesn’t make much of a difference…

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Originally Posted by beet31425
That said, Saul: Wombat has a legal (and IMO moral) right to link to any recording he finds on the internet, especially one on youtube. If you don't want it linked to, take it down.
Jason, one quick question... Mostly wondering and not trying to steer up any trouble.

There is some huge misunderstanding with the Internet and the findings inside it! There was a long gone saying that "anything on the internet is public domain property", which is actually wrong! The idea is that when you enter something on the net you have little to no control on it. Makes sense. Can I stop anyone from taking my videos and messing with them? I can't and legal conquere over that would cost tons of money!

On the other hand by no means this means that whatever stuff I hacve on the net is actually for free consuption! It's not and nobody has the right to take my stuff and use them as they please! At least stupdily legally speaking, cause in the end the practicality of things remain: I can't have total control of my stuff.

But the simple question: If I find a free copy of windows 7 on teh net, do I have a right to use it? ... has a very direct reply and we all know it!

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Originally Posted by Exalted Wombat
"My hobby is debunking foolishness." Looks like you're learning how to do it for yourself! :-)

That really was a bloody awful rendition of the "Moonlight" though.


So it was a 'bloody awful rendition' hope youre satisfied now….

I’m very pleased by those who have sent me their complements in the mail.
Music lovers from all over the internet have told me that they enjoyed this performance.
A single voice in the wilderness that doesn’t like it, doesn’t make much of a difference…


The lovely thing about this forum is that every effort, however mediocre, is praised!

The worst thing about this forum is that every effort, however mediocre, is praised!

I just listened again, in case I was being unfair. But no, it lacks any musical flow. You're better than that! What does your teacher say about that recording?

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Originally Posted by Exalted Wombat
Originally Posted by Saul
Originally Posted by Exalted Wombat
"My hobby is debunking foolishness." Looks like you're learning how to do it for yourself! :-)

That really was a bloody awful rendition of the "Moonlight" though.


So it was a 'bloody awful rendition' hope youre satisfied now….

I’m very pleased by those who have sent me their complements in the mail.
Music lovers from all over the internet have told me that they enjoyed this performance.
A single voice in the wilderness that doesn’t like it, doesn’t make much of a difference…


The lovely thing about this forum is that every effort, however mediocre, is praised!

The worst thing about this forum is that every effort, however mediocre, is praised!

I just listened again, in case I was being unfair. But no, it lacks any musical flow. You're better than that! What does your teacher say about that recording?


You dont have to like the recording, in fact I dont really care if you like it or not. That's the whole reason people have their 'favorites'...


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