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#1722465 - 07/28/1102:43 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Sokolov Sokolov Sokolov Sokolov Sokolov Sokolov Jeremy Denk Sokolov Sokolov Sokolov
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#1722588 - 07/28/1106:57 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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This is a fun question. My list, without regard to whether they're still with us:
Artur Rubinstein Grigory Sokolov Sergei Rachmaninoff Sviatoslav Richter Vladimir Horowitz Emil Gilels Nelson Freire Martha Argerich Horacio Gutierrez Van Cliburn (in his salad days)
#1722597 - 07/28/1107:18 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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A time machine and you don't have Liszt in your list? Unbelievable!
Well I figured that was a 'given'. A little too obvious to mention, eh?
I was lucky to see Argerich several times in the UK, but I unfortunately missed Ogdon. Reading the bio by Brenda Lucas, I was surprised at the amount of standard rep that Ogdon so often played. (Ogdon in the Grieg or Schumann would be like using a Porsche to drive to the local taco stand.) But Ogdon -with a musical appetite only matched by his gastric appetite- was truly adventurous in 20th century music, and what I would have given to hear him playing works which few but he could ever do justice to.
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And here's a postscript, with my "Tier 2" list:
Franz Liszt William Kapell Jorge Bolet John Browning Leif Ove Andsnes Sergio Fiorentino Earl Wild Krystian Zimerman Marc-Andre Hamelin Ivan Moravec Chico Marx
Time machine list: Bach. Mozart. Beethoven. Chopin. Liszt. Neuhaus. Horowitz. Gilels. Richter. Gould. More realistic list: Sokolov. Lisitsa. Andsnes. Yuja Yang. Kemal Gekic. And my favorite pianist on Pianoworld. Have not decided on the rest yet.
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Cliburn (even if he hasn't been practicing) Lupu (WHERE is he on anyone else's list???) Argerich Richard Goode (surprised he hasn't been mentioned either, and he doesn't get discussed enough here) Sokolov Kissin Ashkenazy Kocsis Lisitsa (partly for the 'visual aspect' -- sorry) Andre-Michel Schub
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OH MY GOSH... LUPU, yes!!!!!!!!
Also, Cliburn, YES!!!
And I've seen Andre-Michel Schub! It wasn't a full length recital, but it was a lecture on Schubert where he played the Wanderer Fantasy (not a fan of that piece but it was a fantastic performance), and the Schubert Op. 90 No. 3 (huge fan of that piece, but it was a very fast performance...), and he also taught a master class the next day.
Richard Goode is very excellent with Mozart, right?
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Haven't heard in person, but need to: Argerich Sokolov Lugansky Bronfman Hamelin Orange Soda King Angelina Pogorelich
Heard in person, but need to again: Jeremy Denk Joyce Yang Yeol Eum Son Lydia Artymiw - didn't hear her nearly enough while I was at Minnesota. Fascinating and commanding performer.
Need a time machine for: Hofmann Sofronitsky Young Horowitz Young Gilels Young Ashkenazy Premiere of Beethoven's 9th (Beethoven was a pianist afterall)
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#1722735 - 07/28/1111:56 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
....Richard Goode is very excellent with Mozart, right?
....and especially with Beethoven.
I of course own Goode's Beethoven sonata cycle, and while excellent, I do find it ever-so-slightly "dry." I haven't heard him live, but like Brendel whom I admire (who I also haven't heard in person, unfortunately,) I find there's a slight midi/robotic-like quality in their recordings at times. I'll be the first to blame the engineers and not the pianist. I'm convinced they are currently among the greatest Classical era interpreters.
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#1722754 - 07/29/1112:08 AMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Mark C --
Good call on Lupu (gorgeous Schubert and Brahms) and Schub (who looks like he wandered in off the set for "Revenge of the Nerds" but played the finest rendition of Chopin's E major Scherzo I've ever heard). And as for Chico, all I can say is:
Groucho (in "Coconuts"): . . . and over here we're going to build a viaduct.
Chico: Vy a duck? Vy a no chicken?
AND he could play the piano like -- well, like no one else.
Lisitsa (purely for the musical aspect :D) Pollini Argerich Zimerman Bozhanov Schiff Barenboim Volodos Sokolov (only because people seem to think extremely highly of him, I haven't listened to many recordings by him) Leslie Howard (I'd like to see him perform the late Liszt works and maybe his own set of 25 etudes)
If you allow me a bonus, I'd love to see Aimi Kobayashi live too.. her Op 10 No 4 blew me away!
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....Richard Goode is very excellent with Mozart, right?
....and especially with Beethoven.
I of course own Goode's Beethoven sonata cycle, and while excellent, I do find it ever-so-slightly "dry." I haven't heard him live, but like Brendel whom I admire (who I also haven't heard in person, unfortunately,) I find there's a slight midi/robotic-like quality in their recordings at times. I'll be the first to blame the engineers and not the pianist. I'm convinced they are currently among the greatest Classical era interpreters.
-Daneil
To support your thought - although I had some recordings (and thought they were respectable but rather dull), I had really had no idea of what Brendel was doing with Beethoven until I heard him live, and then I finally understood what the fuss was about. It was some of the most amazing music-making I ever expect to hear. But hearing him live was not guaranteed bliss for everyone - I know of other people who heard him live and just couldn't sync up with what he was doing.
I've heard Goode live too, and the playing was, for the most part, several notches more involving than his recordings. But I will say, it did seem to get a bit facile here and there. Still, definitely worth the price of admission.
I'm in the fortunate position of having seen & heard live almost all the pianists whose playing I admire (including a few no longer with us, like Michelangeli). But to list those still living whom I'll always have time for, in no particular order:
Mikhail Pletnev Yuja Wang (next year!) Andrei Gavrilov Ivo Pogorelich Maurizio Pollini Arcadi Volodos Denis Matsuev Lang Lang Krystian Zimerman Marc-André Hamelin Grigory Sokolov
Oops! Is that 11?
Of the pianists who lived during my lifetime but who I never got to hear live, only Sviatoslav Richter, John Ogdon, Vladimir Horowitz and Earl Wild would have been on my list.
Since I hadn't paid attention to Sokolov's recording, I went and looked. I AM BLOWN AWAY: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UJsAN5FNBM&feature=related Probably the best performance of this work that I've heard on youtube. Amazing stuff! I can now see why people want to see Sokolov live.
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But to list those still living whom I'll always have time for, in no particular order:
Mikhail Pletnev
I thought of putting Pletnev on my list, but then I remembered that he said some time back that he wasn't going to play piano in public ever again. AFAIK, he hasn't.
#1723495 - 07/30/1112:25 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Sokolov and Zimerman. There was a time when Argerich was on that list, but she'd probably cancel anyway, so why bother with her...
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#1723512 - 07/30/1112:54 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Originally Posted By: Pogorelich.
I'd LOVE to see Rachmaninoff and Horowitz.
I thought we were talking about active, living pianists, but those two ABSOLUTELY (believe it or not, Horowitz, more than Rach).
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#1723517 - 07/30/1112:56 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Originally Posted By: stores
Originally Posted By: Pogorelich.
I'd LOVE to see Rachmaninoff and Horowitz.
I thought we were talking about active, living pianists, but those two ABSOLUTELY (believe it or not, Horowitz, more than Rach).
Yeah but I like to be creative =P
Not gonna touch that =p
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But to list those still living whom I'll always have time for, in no particular order:
Mikhail Pletnev
I thought of putting Pletnev on my list, but then I remembered that he said some time back that he wasn't going to play piano in public ever again. AFAIK, he hasn't.
Did he say why? I remember that he changed his program some while back (could have been the last time I saw him play, a few years ago), substituting Tchaikovsky's G major Sonata for Prokofiev's 7th, because he was recovering from a finger injury. Maybe that's still causing him problems(?).
He's actually the one pianist I'd always pay to hear in recital, because he always think every note afresh (and sometimes provocatively), and never takes anything for granted - the most memorable recital I'd ever been to was by him, when he played Mussorgsky's Pictures (in his own version), and gave three encores, including Liszt's Mephisto Waltz No.1. I don't know of any other living pianist who would play that as one of his encores (on another occasion, Islamey was the 4th encore, after an already long program....he repeated that in Carnegie Hall too).
For me the top ones would definetely be the composer-pianists playing their own works: Chopin, Liszt, Rachmaninoff, Scriabin etc. I'd lose a testicle to witness that.
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Well, I'm not certain about gas mileage on time machines. At least 5 Liszt recitals at various points in his lifetime would be necessary before climbing back in for the others.
#1724216 - 07/31/1110:05 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Originally Posted By: Tararex
Well, I'm not certain about gas mileage on time machines. At least 5 Liszt recitals at various points in his lifetime would be necessary before climbing back in for the others.
What if you found out at the first concert that he was all hype?
It makes me feel old to see Horowitz on peoples time machine lists, but I'll bet Pianoloverus has seen half the artists mentioned.
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Not to mention there are quite a few world-class pianists amongst us here too...!
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#1724363 - 08/01/1107:11 AMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Originally Posted By: Damon
It makes me feel old to see Horowitz on peoples time machine lists, but I'll bet Pianoloverus has seen half the artists mentioned.
Yeah, he is pretty amazing. Even in my years in London I never remotely approached what this man has experienced.
Gotta hand it over...
But OTOH, I suppose the love of my life is Anglican Church music, yet not relevant on this forum. Give Mr. pianoloverus his due, I like him.
I saw Horowitz two or three times, the first being his Historic 1966(?)Return at Carnegie Hall. I had no ticket but there were other ways to get in. One doesn't have to be particularly old to have seen Horowitz. He died in 1989. Rubinstein died in 1982 and Richter died in 1997. The main reason I've been able to see many of the pianists on people's wish lists is that I've lived in NYC since 1962.
#1724379 - 08/01/1108:08 AMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
saw Horowitz two or three times, the first being his Historic 1966(?)Return at Carnegie Hall. I had no ticket but there were other ways to get in. One doesn't have to be particularly old to have seen Horowitz. He died in 1989. Rubinstein died in 1982 and Richter died in 1997. The main reason I've been able to see many of the pianists on people's wish lists is that I've lived in NYC since 1962.
How I wish I had seen Richter. I was certainly old enough when he was still performing,but I was too insulated and focused on school.. (Got more of the latter than I ever needed but I digress..)
But PL, do tell about that Horowitz concert: You got in and then, what??
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Originally Posted By: Tararex
Well, I'm not certain about gas mileage on time machines. At least 5 Liszt recitals at various points in his lifetime would be necessary before climbing back in for the others.
What if you found out at the first concert that he was all hype?
As Liszt has been my favorite composer since I was 10 years old I'm not too concerned about "hype" entering the picture.
However, I am horrified that I left Wilhelm Kempff off my list.
#1724543 - 08/01/1101:42 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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10. Czerny
No problem -- just get tix to Pollini.
I don't get this joke.
Not your fault, undoubtedly.
Here's the deal:
It begins with, I can't much imagine that someone would single out Czerny as someone from the past to hear, because.....well, you know the stereotyped criticism of his music (especially the exercises, which is the main thing people know) and so I imagine (not completely without basis, I don't think) that he wasn't the very most interesting of musicians and that he put emphasis on execution, perhaps in a quite mechanical way.
And that's also the stereotype of Pollini, not entirely without basis.
Czerny and Pollini, in the views of the critics of each (and probably many more-neutral people too), have much the same attributes, both positive and negative. One might say (controversially) that Czerny was an earlier version of Pollini, and vice versa.
So there you are.
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Actually I'm not sure he's still performing....I just asked you on the other thread.
If he is, I'd gladly add him to my list!!
Of course I like him very much, but have seen him several times already That's why I haven't added Zoltán Kocsis, Evgeny Kissin or Boris Berezovsky either. As for your question, I'll answer you on the other thread immediately. :P
But it has just crossed my mind that I forgot to add András Schiff. I'd love to see him performing live, but unfortunately he's persona non grata in Hungary right now because of an article he published somewhere.
And the responses continue! Fun to see new names, check 'em out on You Tube, etc., re-visit old faves. The Time Machine emerged and we've all taken some spins in it, hopefully.
Meanwhile, chill w/a new fave pianist and composer. You'll like this!
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all place winners of piano competiions U.S. and abroad past and present Curzon Rachmaninoff Prokofiev Rubinstein Horowitz Gutierrez Argerich Bolet Gutierrez Kissin
#1727204 - 08/05/1112:04 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Rubinstein
Did he 'win' a competition?
In his bio he writes about one where he finished 2nd and apparently never got over not winning.
It's one of my favorite parts of the book, first of all because of how much detail he tells about the competition, secondly because I think it's kind of charming that someone of his level would continue having feelings about not winning a stupid competition 100 years before.
I know it's possible there was some other competition, that he won.
....and did Horowitz really win a competition??....not to mention Rachmaninoff? I remember reading that Rachmaninoff actually came in 2nd in something at his conservatory, to Lhevinne. The story goes that Scriabin was there too, and was 3rd. That conservatory had a tough peer group.
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...not to mention Rachmaninoff? I remember reading that Rachmaninoff actually came in 2nd in something at his conservatory, to Lhevinne.
That's not as mind blowing as it looks. Lhevinne, by all accounts I've read, was supposed to be one helluva giant as a pianist.
BTW, I forgot to add him to my 'time machine' list of pianists I'd like to hear. Lhevinne made his NY debut with the Rubinstein 5th Piano Concerto, and if anyone could breathe life into that dated, but still knuckle-busting warhorse, it would be Lhevinne.
#1728899 - 08/08/1104:38 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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I considered naming Ashkenazy, but I didn't. I'm not sure why, either.
Probably because he hasn't been "around" very much. We tend to think most of the people who've been right in front of us.
About some of the others:
Kocsis: I'd guess that most people just don't know of him that much. Not sure why not -- maybe because he is (I think) a 'quieter' kind of talent, nothing splashy.
Uchida: I would have mentioned her but just forgot. There's been some controversy about her 'facial expressions' and maybe that's a turn-off to some people.
Lang Lang: We're too sophisticated for him. But in truth, come to think of it, he'd be in my honest top 10 of people I'd want to go and hear, out of curiosity if nothing else. Although, from what people say, I might very well decide I'd never want to hear him again....
Pletnev: I'd bet he would have been mentioned more if not for the 'incident' last year, even though as far as we really know, nothing might have happened. It's not just that his image suffered; it's also that his career has been a bit de-railed, and we just don't hear about him as much as we used to.
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#1728929 - 08/08/1105:22 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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Lang Lang: We're too sophisticated for him. But in truth, come to think of it, he'd be in my honest top 10 of people I'd want to go and hear, out of curiosity if nothing else. Although, from what people say, I might very well decide I'd never want to hear him again....
If someone else were paying (with an expensive dinner and French wine thrown in), I could be persuaded to see LL.
Freire was mentioned a few posts above. Now there's someone I'd like to see. His latest recordings have been of top notch quality, and there's a lotta cool stuff on YT.
Pletnev: I'd bet he would have been mentioned more if not for the 'incident' last year, even though as far as we really know, nothing might have happened. It's not just that his image suffered; it's also that his career has been a bit de-railed, and we just don't hear about him as much as we used to.
AFAIK, he hasn't been playing in public for quite a while (since before that incident) and I think he said he was done with it for good.
#1728985 - 08/08/1106:46 PMRe: List the top 10 pianists you'd like to see in recital
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AFAIK, he hasn't been playing in public for quite a while (since before that incident) and I think he said he was done with it for good.
I would doubt the "for good" part.
I don't mean I'm doubting that he might have said it -- I just don't know. Just whether it'll be the case.
We have it in our blood.
Christopher Shih, after winning the Cliburn amateur competition, apparently said he's not going to play for 3 years, which he later amended to mean as referring just to solo repertoire. That won't be the case either.
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