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#1728905 - 08/08/11 04:47 PM Action on a Kohler and Campbell 1972 Upright
locksleyu Offline
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Registered: 06/16/10
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I practice most of the time on a newer Yahama Digital acoustic piano (with pretty realistic feel). When I recently tried playing a Kohler and Campell 1972 upright acoustic piano, I felt as if it was hard for me to play soft, like there was less sensitivity to sound vs pressure.

Is this just more a technique thing that I would get used to eventually, or is it more likely to be a characteristic of that piano? Are pianos of that make and time period known to be 'less sensitive'?

I realize this is a pretty vague question but any information would be helpful.

Thanks!

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#1728911 - 08/08/11 04:51 PM Re: Action on a Kohler and Campbell 1972 Upright [Re: locksleyu]
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Registered: 03/25/06
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Loc: Georgia, USA
An upright that age would probably have some wear or friction issues. It could possibly be improved with a good cleaning, action lube, regulation and service by a qualified piano tech.

Good luck.

Rick
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#1729261 - 08/09/11 07:45 AM Re: Action on a Kohler and Campbell 1972 Upright [Re: Rickster]
locksleyu Offline
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Rickster,

Thanks for the response. How much does something like that cost and how long does it take?

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#1729264 - 08/09/11 07:54 AM Re: Action on a Kohler and Campbell 1972 Upright [Re: locksleyu]
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Again, I'm no authority on piano or piano tech prices, but off the cuff I'd say:

Tuning - $100 (more if a pitch raise is needed)
Cleaning - While the tech is already there $50
Regulation and lube - $250 (depending on how long it actually takes)
Total time - 3 to 4 hours.

Our local RPT charges $75 an hour for unspecified labor.

Why don't you contact a local tech and get an estimate?

Professoinal technicians usually work pretty fast... me, it'd take me all day! laugh

All the best!

Rick
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#1729463 - 08/09/11 03:11 PM Re: Action on a Kohler and Campbell 1972 Upright [Re: Rickster]
locksleyu Offline
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Rickster,

Thanks again for the useful info.

Actually I am not considering buying it now (nor is it for sale), but rather I wanted to understand if this lack of response is a characteristic of that maker, that year, or because its an upright. I'm also curious if I played a piano like that for months if I would get used to it and have better control over the dynamics, or if there are some limitations to the piano that I could never surpass no matter what my skill level. Probably a bit of both.

When I get really serious about buying an acoustic I'll just try a bunch of pianos, but this is just initial research.

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#1729605 - 08/09/11 06:49 PM Re: Action on a Kohler and Campbell 1972 Upright [Re: locksleyu]
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Registered: 04/26/10
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Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: locksleyu
I wanted to understand if this lack of response is a characteristic of that maker, that year, or because its an upright. I'm also curious if I played a piano like that for months if I would get used to it and have better control over the dynamics, or if there are some limitations to the piano that I could never surpass no matter what my skill level. Probably a bit of both.


Is this piano a console something like 44" or shorter? If so, the action is very light and not terribly sensitive because it has a console action.

Yes you can get used to it and get more range, but not as much as you could on a better piano. Also, this is not an "upright" issue as not all uprights are designed / made equal.

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