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#173800 - 08/07/06 10:43 PM Re: Charles Walter 175
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Registered: 09/04/03
Posts: 4016
Loc: Olympia, Washington
 Quote:
Originally posted by markjpcs:


We have one member who actually played one.

I quote:

"Playability...I think it has a Renner (or Renner Parts) action, and it showed. The piano was light, responsive, and although I've been playing my crappy digital Casio for the last 4 days, it took not much time to accomodate my touch to this piano. It was everything you'd expect from a world-class action maker, and Walter did a nice job putting it into their piano.

Tone...

sigh...

As I said, I really, really wanted to like this piano.

But I didn't.

The tone was a bit too percussive, too harsh - as I told the salesperson, too "Asian." It reminded me of a C3, though it played nicer. It just sounded like one. She agreed with me, and said that's what she didn't like about it either. I don't know if it was a matter of voicing in a new piano, but I can just imagine what it would sound like in a year or so. "


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(I tried to send the following to the member in question, but his inbox was full....)

Well, in my opinion they are voiced a little to much on the bright side. Having said this, however, even the Abel hammers are fairly easily voiced and they hold their voice pretty well. These are the softest hammers Abel makes for anybody and they don't require a whole lot of needling and fussing with to bring them down and keep them there.

I'm some surprised that the dealer you visited, since they also thought the piano was too bright, hadn't done this as part of what we, at least, would consider to be normal prep work prior to placing the piano on their showroom floor. This is work that should be done to every piano regardless of its pricepoint. Both action performance and voice should be something the sales people like and want to sell well before the customer walks in the door.

Del
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#173801 - 08/07/06 11:04 PM Re: Charles Walter 175
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Registered: 10/03/02
Posts: 335
Loc: Illinois
All,

I've played one CW 175, and I think it's a very, very nice piano. Perhaps the salesperson was quick to agree with the pianist so that the salesperson could steer the pianist to a different piano in the store. He/she may have been playing off the pianist's perceived preferences.

I've held off talking about this piano, but I can't hold off any longer...I chose a CW 175 on behalf of a donor to our church (at last -- a nice piano for our church!!). I chose it over many worthy contenders for a number of reasons. We're now just waiting for delivery. I'll relate the whole story soon.

Kevin

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#173802 - 08/07/06 11:14 PM Re: Charles Walter 175
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Registered: 02/06/06
Posts: 1469
Loc: CT
I saw both models at the PTG convention in Rochester, and have played the larger at various showrooms.

The 175 in particular had a stronger bass that I would have expected (especially considering the dreadful acoustics of the exhibit hall) Additionally, as one progressed towards and into the treble I was impressed how the piano was able to cut through all the background noise enough for me to hear, yet not have that dreadful "tinny" dare I say "asian" sound.

If the piano were in my living room, I'm fairly certain somewhat more than a "little" needling would be needed, but so what, that's what techs (and conventions for techs \:D ) are for \:\)

Rich
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