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Can someone give JeffreyJones a piece that is impossible to sightread fluently, just to see how he does anyway? If he is willing, it would be interesting to hear, not expecting a perfect performance of course.
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Can someone give JeffreyJones a piece that is impossible to sightread fluently, just to see how he does anyway? If he is willing, it would be interesting to hear, not expecting a perfect performance of course. I should hope you're not expecting a perfect performance!! Most likely what would happen is I wouldn't sight-read it fluently. I didn't even sight-read most of the original suggestions fluently. They were really hard.  Roslavets maybe? I keep seeing that name but haven't tried any of his music.
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Okay, here's the most deceptively difficult sight-reading material I know of. Two pages. Mostly 8th notes: A little gigue by Mozart.
"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt) www.pianoped.comwww.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
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Oh, that one.. I have that in Henle urtext book I bought recently, but I haven't tried that gigue yet. Stand by.
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wow! You are truly amazing! Bravo
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Jeffrey, you're incredible!! 
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You should perhaps try to make some income from your sightreading. Set up a live video channel, and let viewers submit music sheets for you to play, and watch the ratings soar!
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Great quick job on the Mozart Gigue! To pick something like what MathTeacher said -- "Can someone give JeffreyJones a piece that is impossible to sightread fluently, just to see how he does anyway?" -- how about something from Ives' Concord Sonata, not "The Alcotts" which is almost normal  but really that movement would be pretty darn impressive too....
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I already studied The Alcotts in college, so that wouldn't be fair. I also have one of the Studies and I can't even begin to read through it.
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....I also have one of the Studies and I can't even begin to read through it. Hey, folks -- he's human!!! 
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....I also have one of the Studies and I can't even begin to read through it. Hey, folks -- he's human!!! Was there ever any doubt about that? Though I wonder about Ives.
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Bravo, Jeffrey. That was fun(for me at least)
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Bravo! You are amazing! I especially enjoyed the Liszt-Wagner one.
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I'll post a few pages shortly... It's going to be VERY tough Jeffrey, and not the whole work, because I simply can't post the whole work, but I can't resist a good challenge. (PS. It's contemporary... brrr....)
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Some questions I need to ask you JeffreyJones, since I'm trying to become like you:
1) How many years have you been practising sightreading?
2) Do you count in your head as you sightread, and if not, how do you deal with a measure that has a very tricky rhythm?
3) How far ahead do you look generally?
4) How many outer and inner ledger lines do you have memorized by heart, and accordingly what range of notes can you play blindly?
5) What kind of piece is the most challenging for you to sightread? (e.g. heavy and frequent two-handed chords, scattered notes everywhere, polyrhythmic, etc...)
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Some questions I need to ask you JeffreyJones, since I'm trying to become like you:
1) How many years have you been practising sightreading? I bet he'll say something like he never "practiced" or "worked" at sight reading, but he's been doing tons of it since he became interested in music and the music was available.
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Some questions I need to ask you JeffreyJones, since I'm trying to become like you:
1) How many years have you been practising sightreading? You don't practice it, you do it, at whatever tempo you feel comfortable at. It doesn't matter if it's as fast as I do it, as long as it's at a tempo where you can be reasonably accurate.
2) Do you count in your head as you sightread, and if not, how do you deal with a measure that has a very tricky rhythm? I practiced all of the tricky rhythms already in other pieces, so when I see them, it's already familiar.
3) How far ahead do you look generally? Not at all.
4) How many outer and inner ledger lines do you have memorized by heart, and accordingly what range of notes can you play blindly? Up to 6 ledger lines each direction for the outer ranges. Going above the bass or below the treble, probably 3-4, that's not as important.
5) What kind of piece is the most challenging for you to sightread? (e.g. heavy and frequent two-handed chords, scattered notes everywhere, polyrhythmic, etc...) Counterpoint! There's no way to predict the patterns.
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There you go Jeffrey: www.nikolas-sideris.com/AGS/Jeffrey.pdfI, personally, think it's VERY difficult for various reasons, but I'd like to view on it. It's part of a score, not the complete score unfortunately, due to copyright reasons. Thanks!
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There you go Jeffrey: www.nikolas-sideris.com/AGS/Jeffrey.pdfI, personally, think it's VERY difficult for various reasons, but I'd like to view on it. It's part of a score, not the complete score unfortunately, due to copyright reasons. Thanks! Holy moly! Well, we have up to 6 outer ledger lines, which he says he knows by heart.
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