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#1738030 - 08/22/11 12:45 AM Touch: Yamaha P95 vs Kawai CL25
Pianero Offline
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Registered: 07/15/11
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hii

i want to know what do you think of what of these two DP's have the better piano action and keybed, i don't care about the sound, but only the feeling thumb

thankss

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#1740563 - 08/25/11 07:21 PM Re: Touch: Yamaha P95 vs Kawai CL25 [Re: Pianero]
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#1740586 - 08/25/11 07:54 PM Re: Touch: Yamaha P95 vs Kawai CL25 [Re: Pianero]
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Originally Posted By: Pianero
hii

i want to know what do you think of what of these two DP's have the better piano action and keybed, i don't care about the sound, but only the feeling thumb

thankss


This is an easy question. The P95 uses Yamaha's "GHS" key action. it's not their best, by far. I'd call ed only "semi weighted"

Kawai keys are all good, even on their older pianos. Kawai's plastic action is as good as Yamaha's "GH".

However the sound is another matter. The P95 sounds better than you'd think a single layer sample set would. Kawai has only gotten the sound to be competitive in their most recent models. the old "HI" sound, in my opinion is tiring on the ears I don't like listening to in in head phones for long periods.

BTW if you have $1,000 budget for the CL25 why are you looking a the P95. Yamaha's $1,000 piano is the P155. Had you asked if the P155 or CL25 had beter keys I'd have said "try them. Neither is best, buy the one you like". But the P95/CL25 question is easy.

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#1740629 - 08/25/11 09:18 PM Re: Touch: Yamaha P95 vs Kawai CL25 [Re: ChrisA]
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Originally Posted By: ChrisA
Originally Posted By: Pianero
hii

i want to know what do you think of what of these two DP's have the better piano action and keybed, i don't care about the sound, but only the feeling thumb

thankss


This is an easy question. The P95 uses Yamaha's "GHS" key action. it's not their best, by far. I'd call ed only "semi weighted"

Kawai keys are all good, even on their older pianos. Kawai's plastic action is as good as Yamaha's "GH".

However the sound is another matter. The P95 sounds better than you'd think a single layer sample set would. Kawai has only gotten the sound to be competitive in their most recent models. the old "HI" sound, in my opinion is tiring on the ears I don't like listening to in in head phones for long periods.

BTW if you have $1,000 budget for the CL25 why are you looking a the P95. Yamaha's $1,000 piano is the P155. Had you asked if the P155 or CL25 had beter keys I'd have said "try them. Neither is best, buy the one you like". But the P95/CL25 question is easy.



in my country the P95 and the CL25 cost almost the same (1300 USD), but the P155 costs 2500 USD!!! eek


so thanks for the advice, if the CL25 have bettter action than P95, then will make a better controller for use with sample libraries

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#1740647 - 08/25/11 10:05 PM Re: Touch: Yamaha P95 vs Kawai CL25 [Re: ChrisA]
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Originally Posted By: ChrisA
The P95 uses Yamaha's "GHS" key action. it's not their best, by far. I'd call ed only "semi weighted"

Calling it semi-weighted is an overstatement. It may be on the light side of weighted actions, but I think no more so than some real pianos are... and it definitely feels far more like a weighted action than any of the boards actually marketed as semi-weighted. i.e. Nord Electro 3 (non HP), Kurzweil SP4 and PC3, etc.

Personally, I find many Yamaha actions heavier feeling than most acoustic pianos, and prefer the P95 to many higher end Yamahas, despite its shortcomings. But Yamaha does have some higher end actions that I think are excellent and far outclass the P95, like the CP5. I wish that didn't weigh 50+ pounds!

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#1740654 - 08/25/11 10:16 PM Re: Touch: Yamaha P95 vs Kawai CL25 [Re: Pianero]
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Originally Posted By: anotherscott
I...prefer the P95 to many higher end Yamahas


For example?
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#1740687 - 08/25/11 10:53 PM Re: Touch: Yamaha P95 vs Kawai CL25 [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Originally Posted By: anotherscott
I...prefer the P95 to many higher end Yamahas


For example?

P-155, CP-33, CP300, CP50...

Again, I'm just talking about feel, not sound. And I'm not raving about the P95, it's decent feeling, but certainly no CP5, or Roland FP-7 or FP-7F, those are the actions I really like. A lot of those higher Yamahas, while not terrible, just feel too heavy to me, heavier than any good acoustic piano I ever played.

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#1740692 - 08/25/11 10:59 PM Re: Touch: Yamaha P95 vs Kawai CL25 [Re: Pianero]
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Interesting.

However, am I correct in thinking that you also prefer the MP6's action to that of the MP10?

Cheers,
James
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#1740705 - 08/25/11 11:15 PM Re: Touch: Yamaha P95 vs Kawai CL25 [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Interesting.

However, am I correct in thinking that you also prefer the MP6's action to that of the MP10?

You remember correctly! I felt the MP6 had a decent, albeit unspectacular action... but I didn't like the MP10 at all. Though I did prefer its sound to the MP6.

For action alone, my first pick would be the FP-7F, and then the FP-7... but I'm not willing to gig with a 50 pound keyboard. But I'm pretty happy with the feel of the 26 lb Casio PX-310 (which I prefer to the newer PX-130/PX-330/PX-3). Yup, people do have different tastes!

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