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#1744991 - 09/02/11 09:42 AM The successor to Kawai MP10...
Porcupine Offline
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Registered: 06/25/11
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Hello!

Do some of you have an idea of how long it does take from now on, before a successor/an upgrade to Kawai MP10 is in the offing? How long did there go between MP8 and MP8 II? I know that MP10 is still a pretty new product, but I'm just very curious :-)

I hope you do have a guess!

- Porcupine

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#1745088 - 09/02/11 12:54 PM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: Porcupine]
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Registered: 02/17/11
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I am sure our good friend "Kawai James" knows the answer to this same question... I have been meaning to ask him in a private message but that isn't fair to place him in that "corporate position". He probable can't tell us but I would like to know the answer to this as well.

My ultimate setup would be a Korg Kronos, Jupiter 80, and a MP-11. Everything would be covered with this setup for me.

Take a freshly tuned, regulated, voiced Shigeru Kawai EX, make new recordings, take that "10gig of data" (use the highest resolution possible) and put it to an SSD drive with the same keyboard we now have in the MP-10. Now that would be a piano!

Now dream big... Give it a 50 gig SSD... Then do samples of a Yamaha, Bosie, Steinway, Fazioli, with the Kawai in it and we would be set! I would gladly pay $50 bucks for the additional samples when they became available.

I would gladly pay $3500 for this beast! With the hard drive, like the Kronos, Kawai could keep us updated with the latest and greatest patches.

My two cents... I know James is reading this because "He is the man!"

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#1745104 - 09/02/11 01:26 PM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: Porcupine]
HwyStar Offline
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Registered: 02/17/11
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Korg Kronos Japan just announced that they will have an Austrian Piano (Bösendorfer) released for their Kronos...

See what I mean about an SSD drive being used...

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#1745284 - 09/02/11 07:35 PM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: Porcupine]
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HwyStar, thank you for the info about the new Kronos libraries. There doesn't appear to be a price listed for the Austrian Piano library (yet), however I appreciate the concept of being able to download additional content.

Regarding the original question, the MP8/MP8II had a long, esteemed life as Kawai's flagship stage piano, and I am confident that the MP10 will also be considered the benchmark standard by which other boards are measured for years to come.

Kind regards,
James
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#1745376 - 09/02/11 11:13 PM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: Porcupine]
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They've not been out even a year so I would think it'd be a while. Sales for the MP10 seen to be doing quit well considering how much smaller Kawai's distribution network is, but I think if it weighed closer to the CP5/RD700NX it'd probably sell even more. That's the price you pay fort such a good action!
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#1745459 - 09/03/11 04:46 AM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: Porcupine]
Porcupine Offline
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Registered: 06/25/11
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All right - so drawing a conclusion: By all appearances, an MP10II/MP11 won't appear within the next couple of years?

:-)

- Porcupine

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#1745460 - 09/03/11 04:47 AM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: Porcupine]
EssBrace Offline
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Registered: 12/01/09
Posts: 2405
Loc: Suffolk, United Kingdom
I agree - the MP10 is still to reach the peak of its sales and influence in the market place and it looks like a product engineered to have a long life in the market. It would surprise me if there is a replacement within three years.
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#1957273 - 09/11/12 04:25 AM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: EssBrace]
KarelG Offline
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Registered: 11/18/11
Posts: 145
Loc: Czech Republic
Originally Posted By: EssBrace
I agree - the MP10 is still to reach the peak of its sales and influence in the market place and it looks like a product engineered to have a long life in the market. It would surprise me if there is a replacement within three years.

Do you think this is still the case especially when Kawai released ca65/ca95 with their new grand feel action? I'm really curious if GF makes its way into the next flagship stage piano...(and when...)
Karel
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#1957277 - 09/11/12 04:35 AM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: Porcupine]
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Not sure. I might be proved wrong. I'm not sure of the dates but the launch of the MP10 was some time after the launch of the CA-63 and 93, wasn't it? So there's no saying when a new stage piano might appear with the GF action - they might let the MP10 run alongside 65 and 95 for some time. MP8ii survived alongside newer console Kawais.
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#1957284 - 09/11/12 04:52 AM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: Porcupine]
Kawai James Online   content
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 9330
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
It's perhaps also worth noting that the GF action uses longer keys, meaning a larger, heavier keyboard package - maybe that wouldn't be terribly popular in a stage piano, which many believe is already big and heavy enough as it is!

James
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

"Richard, none of us could forget you have a CLP-990." - EssBrace, 2014

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#1957421 - 09/11/12 12:04 PM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: Kawai James]
gvfarns Offline
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Registered: 04/16/07
Posts: 3483
Loc: Pennsylvania
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
It's perhaps also worth noting that the GF action uses longer keys, meaning a larger, heavier keyboard package - maybe that wouldn't be terribly popular in a stage piano, which many believe is already big and heavy enough as it is!


That would be a shame. I'm basically waiting for a GF stage piano. Or at least a GF piano that's cheaper than the CA line.

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#1957504 - 09/11/12 03:56 PM Re: The successor to Kawai MP10... [Re: gvfarns]
KarelG Offline
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Registered: 11/18/11
Posts: 145
Loc: Czech Republic
Originally Posted By: gvfarns
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
It's perhaps also worth noting that the GF action uses longer keys, meaning a larger, heavier keyboard package - maybe that wouldn't be terribly popular in a stage piano, which many believe is already big and heavy enough as it is!


That would be a shame. I'm basically waiting for a GF stage piano. Or at least a GF piano that's cheaper than the CA line.

I'm afraid I would also like to prefer GF stage piano as for house playing I do have wife's upright and borrowed baby-grand. But I'll need something for playing with friends for fun and GF looks like nice improvement over RM3 and honestly speaking CA65 is even less practical for movements than hypothetical MP12 with GF keyboard...
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