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#1810109 - 12/21/11 05:02 PM Re: Help:) [Re: ZBGM0]
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Registered: 12/24/10
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Argh, its always that low F#. It happens on my piano too. Harsh, metallic ringing, i Get ya. It is the bottom wrapped bichord. I don't know why this happens, however. and kn my piano, it also happens with an G# and A# in the same octave. Weird.

Anyway, its great that you still like your new RX-2! laugh Congratulations!!!
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#1810135 - 12/21/11 05:39 PM Re: Help:) [Re: ZBGM0]
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I have played several Tier 1 and Tier 2 piano makes that in my experience typically have some ringing notes in the lowest octave. Steinway D's I have heard in concert frequently have this sound.

If it's something that would bother you, you should test each bass note by playing it ff. I agree with Clef that, although they should, not many potential buyers test every note on the piano.

I had this bass ringing sound in my first grand and my tech was able to mostly correct it(on one string we tested)by ordering a special kind of bass string meant to deal with this situation.

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#1810446 - 12/22/11 07:09 AM Re: Help:) [Re: ZBGM0]
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Thank you Brent H, Rotom and pianoloverus. Your posts are encouraging.

I asked this question also on “Piano Tuner-Technicians Forum”.

I hope somebody will tell more about this thing.

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#1810455 - 12/22/11 07:38 AM Re: Help:) [Re: ZBGM0]
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I made a new thread about the ringing bass sound. I found that if you damp the duplexes, the ringing is reduced a lot. Anyway, good luck, and congratulations again on a fine piano! laugh
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#1810463 - 12/22/11 08:04 AM Re: Help:) [Re: ZBGM0]
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Good to read that you have found your piano!
The things with pianos is this, they all have minor things, a ring a heavy key, a minor click in the morning. All these things are not perfect but it is what makes a piano organic, that is why it sounds/feels natural and beautiful. When you change a string it will sound different as it is from a different batch. Not nice, only when a string breakes this is the only option left to do. Not every tech is a good tech. Be aware....

I too am a perfectionist and after 4 (grand) pianos I have learned to love them for what they are; instruments... These perfection obsessions can be devastating, you can fall out of love before you know it!! Try to see the piano as your partner, maybe not 100% perfect but still you love em. (somedays more then the other)
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#1810474 - 12/22/11 08:35 AM Re: Help:) [Re: ZBGM0]
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Konzert Patrick,

After watching a technician take apart and fine-tune some of the action parts in our new grand piano, any temptation I might have entertained toward being a "perfectionist" piano owner is no longer a factor. There's so many parts working together it's a miracle any piano ever plays well...and no surprise that a piano playing nigh-perfectly today might not do as well next week, next month or next year.

The technician said that every piano will have a few things that aren't quite what we would wish them to be. He says his job is to eliminate the problems that the player can't stand, not every problem he could find if he looked hard enough. You can always find something else to work on or fiddle with.

That said, I think the Metallic Ringing Sound falls deeply into the category of things that ZBGM0 and Rotom can't stand!
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#1811029 - 12/23/11 09:03 AM Re: Help:) [Re: Konzert Patrick]
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Originally Posted By: Konzert Patrick
Good to read that you have found your piano!
The things with pianos is this, they all have minor things, a ring a heavy key, a minor click in the morning. All these things are not perfect but it is what makes a piano organic, that is why it sounds/feels natural and beautiful. When you change a string it will sound different as it is from a different batch. Not nice, only when a string breakes this is the only option left to do. Not every tech is a good tech. Be aware....

I too am a perfectionist and after 4 (grand) pianos I have learned to love them for what they are; instruments... These perfection obsessions can be devastating, you can fall out of love before you know it!! Try to see the piano as your partner, maybe not 100% perfect but still you love em. (somedays more then the other)


Patrick, that's a good post

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#1870477 - 03/29/12 03:01 PM Re: Help:) [Re: ZBGM0]
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Hi,

I am happy to write you again. Ringing overtone disappeared, it was just a voicing issue. Technician fixed it with needling in a moment. Well, now I can finally say that I am very satisfied with my piano and I am 100 % sure I made the right decision. I am really glad that this process is behind me. I am just starting to understand how obsessed can people become if the piano is not what they want it to be (I read many posts on PW). I can perfectly understand: a lot of money, once (or twice) in a life time purchase, very high expectations, perfection etc., which of course doesn’t exist. Piano can be a dangerous thing to buy (unless you are very rich).

I just want to tell you that I am very satisfied with my piano:) It’s just perfect for me.

Thanks for helping me out with many informations that were very important for me when I was buying acoustic piano.

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#1870519 - 03/29/12 03:54 PM Re: Help:) [Re: ZBGM0]
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Loc: Georgia
Glad it worked out for you, ZBGMO!

It's amazing what a little poke with a voicing needle will do! smile

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