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#1749206 - 09/08/11 10:43 PM Circle of fifths for pentatonic scales ?
John_In_Montreal Offline
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Registered: 01/21/11
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Hi Everyone,

A "dumb" beginner question... I hope you'll forgive me if I haven't researched the subject, its a bit late tonight. Out of curiosity, is there such a thing as a "circle of 5-ths" for pentatonic scales, pentatonic chords & progressions, etc... or another system of representation for these ?

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John
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#1749218 - 09/08/11 11:08 PM Re: Circle of fifths for pentatonic scales ? [Re: John_In_Montreal]
Dave B Offline
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Not sure what your question is. Usually the normal cord progressions used, or any progression you want, can be played with Pentatonic scales. A typical progression is I - ii - IV - V - I with a IV - I - IV - V - IV - V - I B section.

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#1749219 - 09/08/11 11:16 PM Re: Circle of fifths for pentatonic scales ? [Re: John_In_Montreal]
John_In_Montreal Offline
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Hey Dave,

There were 2 questions - the circle and the chord progressions. I'm just fooling around with pentatonic scales at the moment, having mastered the "classical" major and minors ones and wondered inf what I learned could be applied to pentatonics. I'm talking about the "regular", not the blues, pentatonics. I'll likely noodle and learn all blues scales also, would like to dabble in improv eventually.


Thanks

John
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#1749883 - 09/09/11 11:00 PM Re: Circle of fifths for pentatonic scales ? [Re: John_In_Montreal]
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John, The suggested progression is for the normal major Pentatonic. Pentatonic scales are fun because they easily develop into melodic structures. It seems sometimes, without any effort from the player. I like working a Celtic flavor with the F# pentatonic scale (all the black keys). Somewhere I have a book of pentatonic melodies.

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#1750377 - 09/10/11 09:40 PM Re: Circle of fifths for pentatonic scales ? [Re: John_In_Montreal]
John_In_Montreal Offline
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Hi DaveB,

Indeed, I've read a few times that its relatively "easy" to create something nice sounding or meaningful, etc, with the pentatonic scales. I've heard it myself in my many "noodling" moments. I'll try the usual chord progressions. There's no end to discovery and creation; makes learning music so worthwhile smile Thanks for the tips!

John
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#1750378 - 09/10/11 09:42 PM Re: Circle of fifths for pentatonic scales ? [Re: John_In_Montreal]
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since everythings pretty much built off and compared to the major scale. i doubt it and i fathom its in the same order
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