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#1758901 - 09/25/11 12:21 PM
"starter" upright? possible pianos with pricing
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Registered: 09/14/11
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I'll be starting piano for the first time very shortly. I have lessons already lined up. However, I need to get something under my fingers for practice.
Initially, I was only considering a digital piano because of budget ($2-3k) but I recently went on a piano finding trip and one store in particular had what seemed to be very good pricing. For reference, I've got it pinned to the Kawai CA63 if I can get the price down and the Rowland FP-7F.
With no real experience, all of the pianos I listened to that were in my budget (and way out of my budget for reference) sounded good enough and similar (store employee did lots of nice no-sales-pressure demos). It's really hard to judge when you don't know what details to listen or feel for. However, I did come out with a price list (go go pen and paper!!!)
Thoughts on the following uprights at their price point? I'm not sure if one stands out as a screaming deal etc.
(pre-tax. shipping 125-250 depending on if I can piggy back on another order, as I live a long long distance from the store)
Cable-Nelson CN116 PE (New) $3050 Kohler & Campbell KM245 (new) $2790 Kohler & Campbell KC245 (new) $2590 Sohmer 48P (or was it 48PN?) (new) $3000 Yamaha P22 (used, 1986) $2990 Kawai 506S (used,~ 10 yrs old) $1990
Thanks for any feedback
EDIT: There is also a 100% value trade up policy should I decide to upgrade in a few years. No "must be 3x more price" shenanigans etc.
Edited by Gomer (09/25/11 12:41 PM)
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#1758913 - 09/25/11 12:37 PM
Re: "starter" upright? possible pianos with pricing
[Re: Gomer]
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 5893
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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There really is no certain way for any one of us to know what kind of condition any of these pianos are in, setting in the dealership without first seeing them. Much depends on the age, quality of the piano, what kind of condition the piano is in now, the strings, bridges, sound board, (cracks?) tuning pins, pin block and more. Your best bet, is to find the sound and feel and of course, looks, of the piano that YOU like, you're the one that will be playing on it, then have a technician look at it for you.
Our local dealership also does the 100 % trade up thing. It works here and is a great deal!
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Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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#1758920 - 09/25/11 12:40 PM
Re: "starter" upright? possible pianos with pricing
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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Registered: 09/14/11
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Thanks for your reply. let me clarify by saying the following are brand new Cable-Nelson CN116 PE $3050 Kohler & Campbell KM245 $2790 Kohler & Campbell KC245 $2590 Sohmer 48P (or was it 48PN?) $3000 Good to know the 100% trade up works in your area 
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#1758928 - 09/25/11 12:55 PM
Re: "starter" upright? possible pianos with pricing
[Re: Gomer]
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Registered: 11/07/07
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Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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Sorry, I didn't notice "(new) behind them. Personally, I like the Cable Nelson myself but, that is just my personal opinion... 
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Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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#1758957 - 09/25/11 01:29 PM
Re: "starter" upright? possible pianos with pricing
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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Registered: 06/22/11
Posts: 129
Loc: Oregon Coast
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Dear Folks,
Yah. Of the choices you present; Cable Nelson would be my suggestion. They've been very nice, reliable, and good sound. Have not had any problems with them. Of your other choices; the Sohmer is the only one I have not seen. The KC pianos are....not as nice. From a technician's point of view, at least!
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Jeffrey T. Hickey, RPT Oregon Coast Piano Services TunerJeff@aol.com
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#1759067 - 09/25/11 04:48 PM
Re: "starter" upright? possible pianos with pricing
[Re: Gomer]
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Registered: 01/10/05
Posts: 520
Loc: Los Angeles/Burbank
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While you can be well served by any of the pianos you list, I would suggest you try the new Del Fandrich designed Young Chang or Weber 114 before you make your decision. These pianos sound and play like instruments significantly more expensive and are musically satisfying to play compared with many others at a lower price point.
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