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#1759446 - 09/26/11 07:03 AM technical exercise for an intermediate pianist
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just wondering if there are any good piano books which offer technical exercises for an intermediate pianist ( around grade 5/6) involving phrasing, dynamics and finger dexterity I really want to improve my overall technique, thanks.

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#1759453 - 09/26/11 07:15 AM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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Hanon and Czerny.

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#1759471 - 09/26/11 07:51 AM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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any specific book or just any from them in general

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#1759486 - 09/26/11 08:32 AM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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Look at Suzanne Guy's "Expressive Etudes" anthologies. Also Heller Op. 45 and Burgmuller Op. 109
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#1759493 - 09/26/11 08:46 AM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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I really think you should study Bach's "inventions" instead of repetitive technical exercises.

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#1759522 - 09/26/11 09:37 AM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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Cramer Etudes provide musical challenges and improve technique at the same time.

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#1759536 - 09/26/11 10:05 AM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: Varcon]
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Originally Posted By: Varcon
Cramer Etudes provide musical challenges and improve technique at the same time.
+1 on Cramer.
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#1759863 - 09/26/11 05:49 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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Max Cooke's "Tone, Touch and Technique for the Advanced Pianist" (EMI Music Publishing, 2008 is the latest edition, first published 1985). An excellent modern book for intermediate level pianists (like me). It contains well thought out exercises interspersed with selected works to illustrate the points under discussion (e.g. works of Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Brahms and Chopin). My teacher had me on it immediately I started with him and I can vouch that it's been very effective in improving my technique.
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#1759900 - 09/26/11 07:08 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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I agree much may be gained from studying the Inventions, as well.
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#1759909 - 09/26/11 07:26 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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Started with Hanon but new teacher highly recommends Inventions.
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#1759916 - 09/26/11 07:35 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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I think the Inventions of Bach are pretty much a given to accompany other technical works so I'll second or third that advice.

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#1760015 - 09/26/11 10:34 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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I second the Inventions and Cramer too...
You could also try Hanon Revisited.
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#1760016 - 09/26/11 10:36 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: Toastburn]
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Originally Posted By: Toastburn
Max Cooke's "Tone, Touch and Technique for the Advanced Pianist" (EMI Music Publishing, 2008 is the latest edition, first published 1985). An excellent modern book for intermediate level pianists (like me). It contains well thought out exercises interspersed with selected works to illustrate the points under discussion (e.g. works of Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Brahms and Chopin). My teacher had me on it immediately I started with him and I can vouch that it's been very effective in improving my technique.


I don't have this, but I intend to buy it. smile
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#1761406 - 09/28/11 11:30 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: Kreisler]
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Originally Posted By: Kreisler
Look at Suzanne Guy's "Expressive Etudes" anthologies. Also Heller Op. 45 and Burgmuller Op. 109


These are great books! Heller's 30 Progressive Studies are a gold mine.
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#2056422 - 03/29/13 06:50 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: Toastburn]
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Originally Posted By: Toastburn
Max Cooke's "Tone, Touch and Technique for the Advanced Pianist" (EMI Music Publishing, 2008 is the latest edition, first published 1985). An excellent modern book for intermediate level pianists (like me). It contains well thought out exercises interspersed with selected works to illustrate the points under discussion (e.g. works of Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Brahms and Chopin). My teacher had me on it immediately I started with him and I can vouch that it's been very effective in improving my technique.


Please advise me where I might order Max Cooke's book. Thanks.
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#2056623 - 03/30/13 01:25 AM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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Like others have said, Bach inventions!
I also enjoyed and acquired benefit from:
Burgmüller's Op. 100 &
Moszkowski's Op. 91


Good luck


Edited by Spacetone (03/31/13 01:01 AM)

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#2056638 - 03/30/13 02:06 AM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: Toastburn]
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Originally Posted By: Toastburn
Max Cooke's "Tone, Touch and Technique for the Advanced Pianist" (EMI Music Publishing, 2008 is the latest edition, first published 1985). An excellent modern book for intermediate level pianists (like me). It contains well thought out exercises interspersed with selected works to illustrate the points under discussion (e.g. works of Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Brahms and Chopin). My teacher had me on it immediately I started with him and I can vouch that it's been very effective in improving my technique.


+1. Max Cooke is one of the foremost teachers in the world. Anything by him is useful.

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#2056662 - 03/30/13 03:51 AM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: pianozuki]
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Originally Posted By: pianozuki
Originally Posted By: Toastburn
Max Cooke's "Tone, Touch and Technique for the Advanced Pianist" (EMI Music Publishing, 2008 is the latest edition, first published 1985). An excellent modern book for intermediate level pianists (like me). It contains well thought out exercises interspersed with selected works to illustrate the points under discussion (e.g. works of Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Brahms and Chopin). My teacher had me on it immediately I started with him and I can vouch that it's been very effective in improving my technique.


Please advise me where I might order Max Cooke's book. Thanks.


Try amazon.com or alibris.com


For future would-be posters, this thread is from 2011 and any advice provided would likely fall on absent (I'd say deaf, but deaf implies a presence) ears.
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#2056935 - 03/30/13 03:19 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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For the person looking for the book: I did a search and could not find the book on Amazon. Don't know about the other site Bob mentioned.
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#2056996 - 03/30/13 05:57 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: Polyphonist]
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For the person looking for the book: I did a search and could not find the book on Amazon. Don't know about the other site Bob mentioned.


The book is available via UK Amazon www.amazon.co.uk - used, at a vastly inflated price (I presume, unless it's a huge tome) of £46.56.......
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#2057016 - 03/30/13 06:26 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: bennevis]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
For the person looking for the book: I did a search and could not find the book on Amazon. Don't know about the other site Bob mentioned.


The book is available via UK Amazon www.amazon.co.uk - used, at a vastly inflated price (I presume, unless it's a huge tome) of £46.56.......


Isn't that over 70 US dollars? Seems a bit absurd for a used copy of any book...
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#2057095 - 03/30/13 09:19 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: Polyphonist]
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I found the DVD on eBay Australia here.

In my experience, if a book isn't found by BookFinder.com, it won't be.
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#2061034 - 04/07/13 09:56 PM Re: technical exercise for an intermediate pianist [Re: GradedPiano]
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Dohnanyi. Especially good for voicing.
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