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#1753927 - 09/17/11 02:43 AM Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43
Kawai James Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
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Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Hello folks,

Kawai Europe has recently made software updates available for the following instruments:

- CS9
- CS6
- CA93
- CA63
- CN43

Below is an overview of the changes in each product range.

CS9/CS6
v1.05
1. Fixed issue with Harpsichord sounds when playing very softly.

v1.04
1. Fixed drum channel not working via MIDI when Multi-timbral Mode setting was set to ON2 and stored to User Memory.
2a. ‘A’ is no longer used as the base key for the User Temperament.
2b. Temperament Key setting can no longer be selected for the User Temperament.

v1.02
1. Playing a note very softly no longer produces a sound.


CA93/CA63
v1.09
1. Fixed drum channel not working via MIDI when Multi-timbral Mode setting was set to ON2 and stored to User Memory.
2a. ‘A’ is no longer used as the base key for the User Temperament.
2b. Temperament Key setting can no longer be selected for the User Temperament.

v1.08
1. Playing a note very softly no longer produces a sound.

CN43
v1.03
1. Playing a note very softly no longer produces a sound.
2a. Fixed issue whereby notes could be added when saving SMF songs to USB memory.
2b. Fixed issue whereby the recorder would not correctly re-save an existing SMF song after new tracks had been added.


Owners of the above instruments are recommended to update to the latest software, which can be downloaded from the following URLs:

http://kawai.de/downloads_en.htm
http://www.kawai.co.jp/worldwide/support/updates.html

Please feel free to report experiences of the software updates in this thread.

Kind regards,
James
x

EDIT: Added CS9/CS6 Harpsichord fix, URL for new updates page at Kawai Japan.
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#1753991 - 09/17/11 09:24 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
TADutchman Offline
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
CA93/CA63
v1.09
1. Fixed drum channel not working via MIDI when Multi-timbral Mode setting was set to ON2 and stored to User Memory.
2a. ‘A’ is no longer used as the base key for the User Temperament.
2b. Temperament Key setting can no longer be selected for the User Temperament.

v1.08
1. Playing a note very softly no longer produces a sound.

Thanks, James. I just successfully performed the update from v1.07 -> v1.09.
Last time, when updating from v1.06 -> v1.07, all my registrations and user memory, i.e. dual voice mode presets, were lost, probably due to an automatic reset to standard factory settings. Fortunately, I noticed that this time all 8 registrations + user memory are still intact after performing the update from v1.07 -> v1.09! smile
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#1754002 - 09/17/11 09:40 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Kawai James Offline
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Thanks for the info, that's good to know.

I believe the previous update changed some operations, and added the ability to store extra settings in user memory, so that could be why the reset was necessary.

Cheers,
James
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#1754046 - 09/17/11 11:01 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
PianoZac Offline
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James can you provide me with a link to check out the CS9? I've looked online but can't find much on it. The CS9 appears, from what little I've seen, to be nearly a hybrid in terms of cabinet, action, etc. A beautiful DP for sure.
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#1754047 - 09/17/11 11:06 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Kawai James Offline
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Zachary, the CS9 is not available in the US (yet), hence is not listed on the Kawai America website.

Perhaps the best source of information about the CS9 is the 'CS Series' brochure, available from the link below:

http://www.kawai.co.jp/worldwide/support/catalogue/CS_Series_2011_EN.pdf

Kind regards,
James
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#1754055 - 09/17/11 11:34 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Pierre P. Offline
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Registered: 05/10/11
Posts: 24
Loc: Paris, France
Thanks for firmware update Kawai James !

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#1754068 - 09/17/11 12:08 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
PianoZac Offline
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Thank you James!
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#1754126 - 09/17/11 03:11 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Hardwired Offline
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Registered: 07/14/11
Posts: 29
Loc: Sevilla, Spain
It seems to me that the links for CA63 instructions are wrong, they are pointing to the CS9. Inside the zip, the file named ca63_v109_en.pdf but it says CS9 in the title. It can be a little confusing.

The software is correct and working on my CA63.

Thanks Kawai James for the info


Edited by Hardwired (09/17/11 03:32 PM)

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#1754286 - 09/17/11 08:32 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Kawai James Offline
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Hardwired, thank you for highlighting this issue.

I have emailed my colleagues at Kawai Europe, asking them to correct the mistake.

In future, I am planning to make the software updates available from Kawai Japan's Worldwide site, with the update instructions also available in additional languages, including Spanish.

Thanks again.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1754449 - 09/18/11 01:51 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
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Registered: 09/17/11
Posts: 60
Loc: Madrid (Spain)
And what about a more rich firmware update in the line proposed by TADutchman for CA63//93?... wink

Many thanks to Kawai James. This is my first message in forum. I have updated my recently purchased CA63 and it is great the fix for "notes when yo push keys very softly". Much better feeling and precise response.

Thank you again, James, for your notify.
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#1754494 - 09/18/11 05:29 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Kawai James Offline
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Hello David, thank you for your post, and welcome to the forum!

Yes, TADutchman has made a number of good suggestions for future updates.
However, the engineers have to balance finding time to implement new features, while also working on writing software for new instruments.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1754506 - 09/18/11 07:16 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
macbug Offline
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Registered: 07/20/11
Posts: 80
Loc: Vancouver
Yes they need to work faster on updates for MP6 smile

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#1754807 - 09/18/11 04:48 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
spanishbuddha Offline
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Registered: 11/08/09
Posts: 2235
Loc: UK
OT: feeling unloved on my CN33 smile

It does need the "Playing a note very softly no longer produces a sound." fix.

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#1754870 - 09/18/11 06:19 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
CyberGene Offline
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Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 702
Loc: Sofia, Bulgaria
Great news about silent keys, although I was hoping for string and damper resonances finally enabled when playing through MIDI as well as a higher WAV level. Anyway, thanks for the update smile
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#1754896 - 09/18/11 07:21 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Beco Offline
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Loc: Brazil
Very nice to know about this update James.

Thank you for the news smile
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#1754900 - 09/18/11 07:29 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Kawai James Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8393
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
macbug, the MP6 software update is effectively complete - we're just waiting to finalise (translate) the documentation.

spanishbuddha, the CN33 software update is coming - please wait a little longer.

Kind regards,
James
x
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

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#1760145 - 09/27/11 01:31 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Kawai James Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8393
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Hello folks,

I have updated the first post to include information about an additional CS9/CS6 fix related to the Harpsichord sounds.

I have also made the updates available from Kawai Japan's English language site.

Kind regards,

James
x
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

"Richard, none of us could forget you have a CLP-990." - EssBrace, 2014

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#1760158 - 09/27/11 02:21 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
maurus Offline
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Registered: 05/21/11
Posts: 753
Originally Posted By: Kawai James

2a. ‘A’ is no longer used as the base key for the User Temperament.
2b. Temperament Key setting can no longer be selected for the User Temperament.


Hello James, care to explain this one? Do you really mean the user temperament can no longer be a temperament with a changeable base key? Say, e.g., you choose a tuning close to, but different from, a meantone temperament - is it then no longer possible to transpose the tuning to any self-chosen base key?

Surely I am missing something as such a restriction would (at least for my purposes) severely restrict the usefulness of the user temperament setting.
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#1760200 - 09/27/11 05:04 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: maurus]
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Registered: 09/20/11
Posts: 10
Thanks for the info.
i've a little doubt.
I've to update first with 1.08 or I can update directly with 1.09 and fix all the problems.
I suppose that in 1.09 is included this problem:
Playing a note very softly no longer produces a sound

If i have any problem updating and the piano breaks down. ( I know it's very very difficult but it can happen )
would cover the warranty this problem ?
the saleswoman told me Yes ( the warranty should cover the problem ) but i didn't see her very sure.

I ask it because in Kawai german say: for model MP9500 , MP9000
http://www.kawai.de/downloads_en.htm

!!! Attention !!! Update on your own risk.
If the data is not correctly transmitted, there is a risk of destroying the Flash-ROM. In this case only exchanging the main PCB board at your cost can help.
We do not give any guarantee!

but i don't if this is for all models
or only for MP9500 and MP9000.

thank you very much.
Kind regards.

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#1760206 - 09/27/11 05:42 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: maurus]
Kawai James Offline
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maurus, thank you for your post. I may have been mistaken when translating the changelog, so will double-check with the CA development team tomorrow.

However, I believe I am correct in stating that previously, when using the 'User Temperament' function, it was not possible to adjust the pitch of 'A' without the pitches of other notes also being affected. The v1.09 update corrects this behaviour. This covers point 2a, however I'm still a little uncertain about point 2b. I will try to clarify this for you.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1760208 - 09/27/11 05:48 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Osiris6661]
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Originally Posted By: Osiris6661
Thanks for the info.
i've a little doubt.
I've to update first with 1.08 or I can update directly with 1.09 and fix all the problems.

Does this mean that you have decided to purchase a CA63 after all?
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#1760209 - 09/27/11 05:50 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Osiris6661]
Kawai James Offline
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Osiris6661, Kawai digital piano software updates are cumulative, meaning that they include all the fixes/changes from any previously available update.

Therefore, it is not necessary to update to v1.08 before running the v1.09. Indeed, this would be impossible as the v1.08 software was not distributed publicly.

Regarding the 'safety' of these software updates, modern Kawai instruments have built-in fail-safes to prevent such problems occurring. Furthermore, instruments with 'USB to Device' connectors are far more reliable than the old, slow MIDI method employed by the MP9000/MP9500.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1760215 - 09/27/11 06:13 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Osiris6661 Offline
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Thank James for your answer.
Anyway would be in warranty true?

Kind regards.

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#1760217 - 09/27/11 06:19 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
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Osiris6661, you should be fine. However, if you are in any doubt, I would recommend clarifying with the local distributor for Kawai digital pianos in your country.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1760233 - 09/27/11 07:41 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
maurus, thank you for your post. I may have been mistaken when translating the changelog, so will double-check with the CA development team tomorrow.

However, I believe I am correct in stating that previously, when using the 'User Temperament' function, it was not possible to adjust the pitch of 'A' without the pitches of other notes also being affected. The v1.09 update corrects this behaviour. This covers point 2a, however I'm still a little uncertain about point 2b. I will try to clarify this for you.

Kind regards,
James
x


Thanks James, I look forward to the clarification.
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#1760730 - 09/27/11 09:40 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Kawai James Offline
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Hello Maurus,

I have clarified change point 2b with the CA93/CA63 software engineer and believe my initial translation is correct: When 'User Temperament' is selected, it is no longer possible to change the 'Key of Temperament' setting. Specifically, the 'Key of Temperament' setting still appears in the LCD, but does not respond to panel button changes.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1760865 - 09/28/11 02:45 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
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For anyone playing with their own tunings (I am aware that this is a small minority) this is bad news. I would beg Kawai engineers to reconsider the decision to remove this option.
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#1760868 - 09/28/11 02:52 AM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
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maurus, assuming you are based in Europe, I would recommend contacting Kawai Europe to explain in great detail why you are dissatisfied with this adjusted 'User Temperament' behaviour.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1761770 - 09/29/11 03:57 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
SiggiH Offline
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Registered: 08/08/11
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Loc: Austria
Hi

On my CA63, after doing the firmware upgrade from 1.07 to 1.09 (which worked without any trouble, as described in the documentation), I can not read out the firmware version number any more. With version 1.07 this worked.
Now, when I press the Keys 4 5 6 while powering on, I get a message saying "Flash Programming wait command" instead of a version number.

Besides this, the upgrade seems to have worked - it showed its success message after flashing, and I could verify that I can press a key without hearing a tone.

What's wrong?

Thank you
Siggi

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#1761847 - 09/29/11 05:44 PM Re: Software updates for Kawai CS9/CS6, CA93/CA63, and CN43 [Re: Kawai James]
Kawai James Offline
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Hello SiggiH,

Thank you for your post. I will ask the software chaps to confirm that the version check buttons have not changed in v1.09.

Kind regards,
James
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