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Yup, I looked it up and FP4F is also branded as SuperNatural piano. So sound for piano probably is the same, but action is different. So it might be that FP4F is not that expressive as FP7F. As for portability - currently I will not need to move it around, later it could be few times per year. I think this isn't the case that FP7F is not portable as such, it's just that it's a "headache" to do so. Ah in that case go for the FP7F. It's worth it for the superb action. Plus it IS portable ie it can be lugged from room to room, but just not venue to venue! My problem was that I needed a home piano to double as my stage one, and the FP4F fits that bill due to its lighter weight.
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Having owned both I can say they sound identical to me...it's certainly a 'Supernatural' piano and since there is only one offered on the FP7F anyway I'm assuming it's that.
I must say I doubt Roland would produce subtley different versions of their main piano sounds across four different models(700NX, 300NX, FP7F, FP4F). The difference seems to be in the number of variations available in the more expensive models ie the flagship 700NX includes Concert, Studio, Bright etc.
Possibly, however my experience playing an RD-700NX and RD-300NX connected to the same amp/speakers was rather different - I preferred the sound of the 700NX. A DPBSD recording of the FP-4F would confirm whether or not it is indeed the same piano sound as the FP-7F. Cheers, James x
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I don't 100% agree with sh1 on the FP-7F backache factor, unless you have to contend with a lot of stairs at home or at the gig.
I have a Kaces Keyboard Porter (expensive, granted: cost me around US$180) which is soft but fits the 7F snugly and has wheels and stiff sides. At home I lift the 7F once, from my Roland V-Stand into the open Kaces bag. I wheel the bag to my wagon, pivot it in and out, wheel it into the gig venue and unpack it. At this point I do have to lift the 7F onto the stand, and for that one task I lift one end and get help on the other. After the gig it's the same routine in reverse.
So I never actually carry the 7F around -- if I had to do that I'd leave it at home and take my 12-1/2-lb Yamaha NP-30 ($269, springy unweighted action; I've come to tolerate, even half-appreciate the Yammie).
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One thing more - what about FP7F low gain issues I have heard about (problems using it on stage, what about recordings?). Is it easy to fix?
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One thing however - it seems that FP7F has unbalanced outputs as most DP's , I guess it won't be an issue while recording if cable isn't too long? EO3, As long as you use good quality, shielded TRS cables and connect to a balanced input, then you can get a good quality signal. You can also avoid cabling/analog input by recording on the FP7-F and copying the wave file onto a USB-drive, then sneaker-net the file to your computer.
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E03 wrote:
"One thing more - what about FP7F low gain issues I have heard about (problems using it on stage, what about recordings?). Is it easy to fix?"
Yes. The FP-7F has a Master Gain function (see Function menu) which allows you to boost gain up to +12 db. However, it does not survive power-off. I haven't used this in a recording context, but it's useful with quirky PA systems.
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Hi, Just to let you all know, today I got FP7-F! So glad this is finally over (for now ). Piano sounds great. One thing probably discussed previously - you really need to check it with good headphones. Because inbuilt speakers are much lover quality - when you plug in headphones (or good monitor speakers), quality difference is very noticable and that's a good thing, it just shows how capable SN piano is. Thanks for your inputs and suggestions.
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Congratulations, EO3! I think you made a great choice: the FP-7F is a really capable DP. I was playing jazz standards on mine for a couple of hours yesterday, accompanying a female singer in rehearsal, and it sounded and felt just great.
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Hi, Just to let you all know, today I got FP7-F! So glad this is finally over (for now ). Piano sounds great. One thing probably discussed previously - you really need to check it with good headphones. Because inbuilt speakers are much lover quality - when you plug in headphones (or good monitor speakers), quality difference is very noticable and that's a good thing, it just shows how capable SN piano is. Thanks for your inputs and suggestions. Congratulations, EO3!
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