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#1809337 - 12/20/11 03:19 PM Re: Alternatives to Pianoteq [Re: Bluesinlondon]
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CP1 uses samples. It's only modeled in the same sense as SuperNatural is...there's some modeling put in there to modify the samples. By that standard almost everything, including Ivory, is modeled.

PianoTeq is pure modeling. And probably the V-Piano is too, though there's a good chance some of it is sampled/modeled as well. They don't have to be very explicit about how they get the sound they want.

The distinction between modeled and sampled gets kind of blurry for some products. PianoTeq is PURE modeled, which is why it doesn't have as great a tone. Some of the old sampled pianos are PURE sampled, and that's why they have playability problems. Pretty much everything that plays well and sounds great is a mixture of the two approaches.


Edited by gvfarns (12/20/11 03:24 PM)

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#1809355 - 12/20/11 03:40 PM Re: Alternatives to Pianoteq [Re: MacMacMac]
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Originally Posted By: MacMacMac
But light speed, no. It's not possible.Once again, light does not travel through a copper wire. Electrical currents do.


Yes, that's exactly what they do.

You do know that the speed of electrons in a wire is about 3 feet in an hour?

The signal travels precisely the speed of light in copper and you calculate that by looking at the dielectric surrounding the copper wire. I know I said 90% earlier that's wrong, usually the insulation is with a dielectric value of 2.25 so the speed of light in copper, as a percentage of the speed of light

1/sqrt(2.25) = 66% of the speed of light in a vacuum

The way the speed works in copper is exactly like it does in water, the photons in the copper wire excite the atoms, they absorb and emit and this process slows down the propagation of the group velocity of the wave.

The signal certainly doesn't propagate at the speed of electrons, it would take hours to move down the cable.

It's all very mysterious when you think about it, current caused by the electrons moving, yet the signal travels at the speed of light in that particular material.


Edited by edt (12/20/11 03:43 PM)

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#1809375 - 12/20/11 04:01 PM Re: Alternatives to Pianoteq [Re: gvfarns]
maduro Offline
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oh I was under the impression the cp were purely modeled.

thanks for the clarification

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