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#1774058 - 10/20/11 11:55 AM Ideas needed for new name for recital site
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Hi loyal AB forum members,

As you may remember, LaValse is hosting the recital files on his website. He PM'ed me this morning saying that we now have 11 GB of stored files there! Which is good news, because it means the recitals have been successful beyond our wildest dreams.

The bad news is that in order to plan for the future, we need to move the recital files to another hosting site (LaValse's business site is limited to 70 GB). LaValse has looked into the issue and suggested that we purchase our own domain name, and we can host it at a place he knows about with UNLIMITED storage, WOOT!!

So... we need to come up with what to call our very own AB forum recital website domain. smile

I suppose "ABForumRecital.com" is a likely candidate, but I could also see "RedDotJitters.com" too. laugh Any other ideas?

p.s. .com domain names are a lot cheaper than .org sites, so we should stick with that.

p.p.s. These changes will take place AFTER the next recital, so there will be plenty of time to make the necessary changes to the recital software etc.
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#1774068 - 10/20/11 12:10 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
casinitaly Offline


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I really like RedDotJitters.com

I suppose OrderOfTheRedDot.com could be a contender as well.... but practically speaking I think the most reasonable would probably be something that has ABF+Recital.

ABForumRecital.com, as you suggested.
ABFRecital.com

ABFJitterBugs.com
ABFJitters.com

or what about

ABFRedDots.com
ABFRedDotters.com

The domain won't cost too much- what about the hosting fees? Do we need to take up a collection?
Is LaValse going to manage the site for us or do we need another volunteer?

I'd be willing to chip in and help if I can be of assistance. I have some experience in setting up simple websites.




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#1774070 - 10/20/11 12:14 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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Just to clarify, I have a Heart Internet reseller account (privately - for my projects - http://sailwave.com, http://vaxfax.me etc) so I can create and host websites.

I'm happy to host an ABF website for free - as Monica said - unlimited space and just as important, unlimited bandwidth.

So all we need is a domain name to point at the hosting, which is chirpy cheep.

It's exactly the same hosting as http://sailwave.com itself. Heart are great I recommend them.

smile
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#1774071 - 10/20/11 12:14 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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#1774073 - 10/20/11 12:15 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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Go here to check if your domain name ideas are available:-

http://heartinternet.co.uk

Type your domain idea into field top right (no spaces allowed in domain names)...

I doubt there'll be a problem though... smile
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#1774075 - 10/20/11 12:17 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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Oh, Knights of the red dot.com is like Kord.
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#1774079 - 10/20/11 12:21 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
Monica K. Offline

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The URL for the hosting site is:

http://www.heartinternet.co.uk

You can check there to see if any name is open. LaValse already checked for abforumrecital.com and it's available.

The fee is only six pounds per year. (I am too lazy to find out where the pound symbol is on this American keyboard...) LaValse has generously volunteered to cover the expense; he may add a click through link to amazon on the site as a way of partially covering his expenses. I also asked him if it would be possible for others of us to donate toward the expense and the hassle of managing the site; I know I would like to, at least. He said he could accept donations via paypay, colin@sailwave.com.

I don't think there's much that needs to be done in redesigning the software to change the hosting site; it's just a matter of changing the URL in the instructions and then actually moving the archives over.

LaValse says there is no additional expense for hosting the site (something about how he already has an account that allows for other websites), so the six pounds a year is the only recurring expense for setting up the recital with unlimited storage in its own site.

[oops. I took so long typing all that stuff that LaValse snuck in ahead of me and explained it all much more clearly! sorry for the redundancy.]


Edited by Monica K. (10/20/11 12:22 PM)
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#1774085 - 10/20/11 12:28 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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One decision is do you want to make all the previous recitals available on the site. Currently it's only used to submit entries and present the latest recital in the player.

The issue here is (possibly) taking traffic away from Frank and his revenue from advertising.
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#1774086 - 10/20/11 12:29 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
Lain Offline
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pianoperformance.org? Something generic could promote traffic to PW and ABF?
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#1774088 - 10/20/11 12:33 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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That's a good point. If all the recitals were available and there was prominent links back to PW/ABF it would increase traffic/members to PW/ABF and I would guess easily outweigh the loss of traffic due to ppl listening on the site rather than finding the old recitals on PW.
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#1774090 - 10/20/11 12:35 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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#1774101 - 10/20/11 12:49 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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Maybe we should specifically talk to Frank ?

I rather like Knights of the Red Dot (kord) lol....

I think it would be great to have all the previous recitals show on the new site and probably having them link back here would be doing the right thing by Frank in terms of hits.
(there would probably end up being extra ones because people would be curious about the old recitals. )

I don't know exactly how the advertising works - if you get "credit" when someone just opens the page or does someone actually have to "click" on the ad???


We'd also want alink to Sam's Database, wouldn't we?

I don't use pay pal but paying for something through Amazon works for me.

This is so exciting!
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#1774106 - 10/20/11 12:58 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: casinitaly]
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How about a vote, like cindysphinx but without a job at the end of it? everyone could put up a nomination, and at a set cut off time a vote could happen.

It was your order of the red dot Cas that made me think of "Knights of the red dot .com" (Kord)
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#1774117 - 10/20/11 01:35 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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Rossy, I can take no credit for the Order of the Red Dot, that is a noble association I am proud to be a part of, but I didn't create it.

ORDER OF THE RED DOT
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#1774125 - 10/20/11 01:48 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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Sorry Cas. I credited you falsely, by accident. Unintentionally one may say. without due cause, another will chime in.
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#1774132 - 10/20/11 01:57 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Rostosky]
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Originally Posted By: Rostosky
Sorry Cas. I credited you falsely, by accident. Unintentionally one may say. without due cause, another will chime in.

um, it's not a crime.

Who has another name suggestion?
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#1774142 - 10/20/11 02:15 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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#1774145 - 10/20/11 02:19 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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I don't have a name suggestion, but I'm happy to help LaValse with the admin side, if need. I've built/maintained a few sites and also done a fair bit of perl/php+MySQL coding.
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#1774146 - 10/20/11 02:21 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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lol smile


Edited by wayne32yrs (10/20/11 05:36 PM)

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#1774157 - 10/20/11 02:42 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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I'm in favor of anything easily remembered; if we don't care about transparency (ie seeing the name tells you what it is) I like the red dot variations; if we want people to know what it is from the domain, I like having "PW" in it if Frank's cool with that, and "ABF", along the lines of pw_abf_recitals.com.

I also like the idea of linking back to this forum from it... maybe that's already done, though - I've only visited it a couple times and can't remember.
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#1774172 - 10/20/11 03:14 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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Although some of the other suggestions are certainly more fun and creative, I like Bessel's suggestion, because it is unambiguous and straightforward. (And also because it has both PW and ABF in it.)

If I understand correctly, this is to replace the abf.make247.co.uk site? My question is, if all the old recital files are moved to the new one, won't that mess up all the links in the original recital threads? Also, will Sam have to change the index he is maintaining?

BTW, thanks so much LaValse, for taking care of all this for us!
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#1774186 - 10/20/11 03:33 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: MaryBee]
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Originally Posted By: MaryBee


If I understand correctly, this is to replace the abf.make247.co.uk site? My question is, if all the old recital files are moved to the new one, won't that mess up all the links in the original recital threads? Also, will Sam have to change the index he is maintaining?

BTW, thanks so much LaValse, for taking care of all this for us!


If the links to the recordings change, then the ABF recital index links will not work anymore. Not only that, but the links in all the old recital posts in the ABF forum won't work anymore either. So if you looked up the old recitals at PW then you couldn't listen to any of the recordings.

But I'm guessing LaValse will take all this into consideration and use a redirect or something so the new site doesn't break all the old links.

Of course, if he builds a neat new site with all the recitals archived and indexed and searchable then my ABF recital index can fade away into internet history - and I'll have more time to practice!

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#1774197 - 10/20/11 03:49 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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If the site name ended in "red" then you would get the dot for free as there is already a dot in .com, for example abfred.com .

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#1774238 - 10/20/11 04:59 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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Is this the same as "October Piano Bar", the recital you are talking about moving?

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#1774243 - 10/20/11 05:03 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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No... the piano bars are monthly free-for-alls where people upload recordings to wherever and then post links in the piano bar threads. The recitals occur only quarterly, and they're more "official" or organized in the sense of the recordings being uploaded in a common format and placed into zip files, along with a streaming player, that makes it easier to listen to them all together.

Hope that makes sense. The easiest way to see the difference is to check out some of our past recitals; look for the link that's in the "Important Topics for AB Forum" thread stickied at the top of the AB forum page.
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#1774279 - 10/20/11 06:08 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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short and simple

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#1774296 - 10/20/11 06:42 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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I like the ones that refer to Piano World and ABF.

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#1774299 - 10/20/11 06:47 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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Thnx Cathy, I got one vote at least smile

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#1774323 - 10/20/11 07:21 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: Monica K.]
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I vote that LaValse, who is doing all the work, take our input (perhaps weighted by our past submissions, which happens to be zero in my case) into consideration and then do whatever he wants. smile
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#1774370 - 10/20/11 09:12 PM Re: Ideas needed for new name for recital site [Re: wayne33yrs]
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Originally Posted By: wayne32yrs
Pianoworldsadultbeginnerforumquarterlyrecitals.com

lol smile


ah ha ha ha! That's great!
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