Well, to be honest, it's great for live playing without reverb too.
Highly recommended!


CLASSICAL PIANO COLLECTION DIRECT R1.1

Dual Voice: Concert Grand 2, volume 5 + Mellow Grand, volume 5

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +4, mid -1, high 0

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: mellow1
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 9
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: none

Effect: none (during USB/analog out recording & monitoring) / Delay 3, time 1, depth 1 (for mike recording and/or live playing)

What about combining a warm Piano with exciting Strings! (or should that be the other way around?)




SMALL STRINGS TO GRAND STRINGS R1.0

Dual Voice: Slow Strings, volume 5 + Concert Grand, volume 5

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +2, mid +2, high -6
1 - 8 Damper Hold: On

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 10
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: Light
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Hall 2

Effect: Delay 2, time 5, depth 10

Oh boy, just found out that ripe_md did it again!



Check out the vast number of presets at the bottom of this threads' first post:
http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1695635/1.html

...just waiting for the meatballs.

LOL

Actually, I'm more waiting for some serious meat in the form of a promised CA93/CA63 firmware update. Any news, James?

You think you wouldn't be the first to know?

James
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You're quite right! Just kidding...

Don't wake up the neighbours, as here's another update for this huge sounding patch! Why not quote Einstein this time? “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”.


KAWAI EXtra GRAND LUSHNESS R3.0

Dual Voice: Mellow Grand, volume 5 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 5

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +6, mid +5, high -3

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 6
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Stage

Effect: Delay 3, time 2, depth 3

Let's remove the effects section and retrieve headphones compatibility as a bonus. Volume setting 4.2 works best for me, either playing live or with my HD595s.
Do note that your specific custom touch setting also determines overall brilliance!




KAWAI EXtra GRAND LUSHNESS R3.1

Dual Voice: Mellow Grand, volume 5 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 5

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +5, mid +4, high -2

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 6
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Stage

Effect: none

Let's do another OT instrument joke.

What's the difference between a bass trombone and a chainsaw?
1. Vibrato, though you can minimize this difference by holding the chain saw very still.
2. It's easier to improvise on a chainsaw.

Light & clear tonal character, especially for some CA63-owners who find their speakers' bass response a TAD too heavy:




CLAVINOVA HOME IMPROVEMENT R1.0

Dual Voice: Concert Grand 2, volume 3 + Jazz Grand, volume 7 (= dual balance 7-3)

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low 0, mid +5, high +2

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: bright1 (open lid), normal (half open lid), mellow1/mellow2 (closed lid)
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 6
2 - 3 String resonance: 7
2 - 4 Key off effect: 9
2 - 5 Touch: Normal / Custom (for optimizing brilliance!)
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 10

Reverb: Room 2

Effect: none

Please tell me you're not taking a hammer to your CA93's soundboard speaker....

James
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Don't worry, I really love that classy spacious natural spruce soundboard response which balances nicely with the speaker system. It's just that the tonal character of the abovementioned patch is radically different from the Kawai sound most people have grown accustomed to...

Wow TADutchman , good work
Love the KAWAI EXtra GRAND LUSHNESS R3.1
I now have all my ca63 registration keys recorded with piano dual layers

I have printed ripe_md just for marking which ones I have tested and on which registration I have recorded. It would be great if this could be loaded-saved from usb

That's the spirit!

Here's a variation with excellent playability and clear treble: just hit a C8 and you'll know!!!


KAWAI EXtra GRAND LUSHNESS - BALANCED R3.1

Dual Voice: Mellow Grand, volume 6 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 4

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +5, mid +4, high 0

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Stage / Room 2

Effect: none

The vast array of colours of repeated chords sound even more complex this way and the soft pedal really hits the sweetspot now (given that you've got the custom touch & brilliance right):


KAWAI EXtra GRAND LUSHNESS - BALANCED R3.2

Dual Voice: Mellow Grand, volume 6 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 4

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +5, mid +5, high -1

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Stage

Effect: Delay 3, time 1, depth 1

Deceptively simple but powerful hint to achieve the right amount of brilliance: adjust the high EQ Tone control and/or Damper resonance to match the brightness of your preferred custom touch.

Please note that I'll be 'out of office' for a while because my wife gave birth to a beautiful daughter.

Big congratulations to you and best wishes to all three.

Wow, congratulations TADutchman!

Remember the famous internet mantra: pics or it didn't happen!

No, I'm only joking... please keep your child's anonymity sacred.

Congrats again!

Cheers,
James
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hi guys sorry to intrude but how is the dual voice mode different from the layering available on Kawai stage pianos(like mp6)

Congratulations TAD, and best wishes!!!

Congrats Dutch! Enjoy your time with your little girl since it goes sooooo fast!

James can answer your question macbug. My MP-10 does not do multiple piano layers at the same time.

I believe the principle would be the same, and the MP6 has the potential for greater control over either layered sound (up to four sounds). However, it should be noted that the CA93/CA63 and MP6 use different sample sets, so applying the combinations and settings as explained in this thread may not produce the same results.

Cheers,
James
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Thanks a lot for all the best wishes (also PM)

While still lacking sleep, let's return to the core business of this thread: here's the start of a Trilogy involving a Rock piano for adding some slight imperfections / evolving non-linearities to the overall Grand piano sound. I prefer the closed lid setting (at volume 4.2 with optimised custom touch setting and simultanuously brilliance).


TRILOGY PART 1 - JAZZ R1.0

Dual Voice: Jazz Grand, volume 7 + Rock Piano, volume 3

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +6, mid +6, high +5

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: mellow 2 (closed lid) / mellow 1 (half open lid) / normal (open lid)
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 8
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 7

Reverb: Room 2

Effect: Delay 3, time 1, depth 1

Here's a character Studio grand: I prefer the half open lid setting.


TRILOGY PART 2 - POP R1.0

Dual Voice: Studio Grand, volume 7 + Rock Piano, volume 3

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +4, mid +5, high +4

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: mellow 2 (closed lid) / mellow 1 (half open lid) / normal (open lid)
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 9
2 - 5 Touch: Custom
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 8

Reverb: Room 2

Effect: Delay 3, time 1, depth 1

OT: do you want playback quality in the same ballpark as SACD/DVD-Audio from your current CD-player?

Check out JVC's amazing K2HD CD mastering technology if you haven't already done so!
I do hope that prices go down a little as more and more K2HD CD titles are becoming available...

$37 to $49 per disc... Ouch!

Hopefully those costs would come down a bit. I don't see myself playing each disc as much as I played Battlefield Bad Company 2...

Yes, that's like 25 Euro or more... (who has seen lower prices, anyone?)

For real mainstream use, I guess K2HD and DXD CD prices need to consistently drop below 20 Euro and the number of available (new) titles has to increase dramatically.

The good news is that the huge CD player user base is already there (which was/is not the case for e.g. dedicated SACD players) and no sensible person would even dare to compare the sound of a compressed MP3 to the master tape like K2HD red book format (except for when using a mediocre audio-system and/or being partially hearing impaired).