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#1784152 - 11/06/11 12:20 PM Kawai MP6 Issue
dx0m8w Offline
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Registered: 11/06/11
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Hello!

I have a Kawai MP6 and i'm very happy with it, but I noticed that when i was editing a electric piano patch with Phaser, a very loud noise appeared. The noise sounds like a policial siren. I tried to solve this with the factory reset, but when i edit again a SETUP, the siren noise reappeared. My Firmware version is V1.10.



Any help would help me a lot

Thanks
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#1784282 - 11/06/11 04:19 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
Kawai James Online   content
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dx0m8w,

May I please ask you to list the steps required to reproduce the bug, and also post an MP3 of the sound you hear.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1784319 - 11/06/11 05:14 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: Kawai James]
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First, I set the Kawai MP6 in SETUP mode, next, I selected the sound 2-1-A (L.A. Piano), next I turn on the zone 3 and put in this zone the sound 2-4-C (Phase EP)and the noise start. I noticed that the noise start when the sound have Phaser 1/2 effect. I don't know how to attach a MP3 file, sorry for my ignorance and my bad english (i speak spanish)

Thank you
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#1784328 - 11/06/11 05:43 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
dx0m8w,

May I please ask you to list the steps required to reproduce the bug, and also post an MP3 of the sound you hear.

Kind regards,
James
x


Hello, I uploaded the mp3 file in megaupload, this is the link:

mp6 noise mp3
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#1784338 - 11/06/11 06:19 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
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Thank you, this is very useful.

Kind regards,
James
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#1784342 - 11/06/11 06:29 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
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It sounds totally bizarre! Never heard anything like it.

Maybe you've been overtaxing the hamsters wink
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#1784360 - 11/06/11 07:08 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: voxpops]
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I do not know if this is a specific problem of the keyboard or a MP6 bug. The noise is very annoying frown

Thanks
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#1784373 - 11/06/11 07:38 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: voxpops]
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Originally Posted By: voxpops
It sounds totally bizarre! Never heard anything like it.

Maybe you've been overtaxing the hamsters wink


Do you have the same problem if you follow the steps I posted above?

Thanks
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#1784374 - 11/06/11 07:43 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
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Loc: Oregon
I've just spent the day wrestling with my Numa Piano firmware, so I'm not feeling like dealing with another DP issue right now. If I feel brave enough later on this evening or tomorrow, I'll give it a go.
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#1784376 - 11/06/11 07:50 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
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OK, my curiosity got the better of me...

I followed your steps, and my MP6 did EXACTLY the same thing!!! I have no idea what's going on. It's certainly something that needs addressing.

For now, that is a combination I shall definitely avoid. However, maybe it will occur with other combinations, too.

Over to you, KJ.
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#1784407 - 11/06/11 08:41 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: voxpops]
dx0m8w Offline
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Registered: 11/06/11
Posts: 12
Wow, if your mp6 did the same thing, maybe it is a bug of the mp6's OS. I hope we find a solution.

Regards

Daniel
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#1784423 - 11/06/11 09:13 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
Kawai James Online   content
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Thank you for the reports chaps - we're looking into the issue.

Cheers,
James
x
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#1784470 - 11/06/11 11:09 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
Kawai James Online   content
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Registered: 09/06/07
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Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Chaps,

It appears that this bug occurs when using the Phaser1/2 effect for a sound assigned to Zone3, at the same time as using a Tremolo1/2 effect for Zone4.

For the time being, may I please ask you to avoid using this combination of Zones/Effects until a proper solution is found.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1784516 - 11/07/11 02:39 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
Kawai James Online   content
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 5091
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Hello again chaps,

The engineering guys have successfully fixed this issue, and made an updated beta firmware available to me.

If you would like to receive the beta firmware, please send me a PM with your email address enclosed.

Kind regards,
James
x
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#1784518 - 11/07/11 02:52 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
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Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 499
Loc: Sofia, Bulgaria
Wow, that's a quick response! James, you rock! smile
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#1784521 - 11/07/11 03:05 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
Kawai James Online   content
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Registered: 09/06/07
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Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Thank you, however it's the engineering chaps that deserve the credit for their prompt action.

Cheers,
James
x
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

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#1784522 - 11/07/11 03:09 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
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Of course, but if it wasn't for you, who knows how long it would had taken for this issue to reach them.
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#1784535 - 11/07/11 05:19 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: Kawai James]
dx0m8w Offline
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Registered: 11/06/11
Posts: 12
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Thank you, however it's the engineering chaps that deserve the credit for their prompt action.

Cheers,
James
x


I' really impressed with your quick response! Thank you very much and thanks to the engineers for their prompt response.

I try to send you a PM but i receive a message that says: "Kawai James is over their Private Topic limit"

I don't know if is allowed to put the email in the post.

Thank you again
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#1784536 - 11/07/11 05:24 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
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Registered: 12/01/09
Posts: 1539
Loc: Suffolk, United Kingdom
It's impressive isn't it! Little problems occur from time to time but it is the company's response to the problems that tells the real story.
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#1784538 - 11/07/11 05:31 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: EssBrace]
dx0m8w Offline
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Registered: 11/06/11
Posts: 12
Absolutely agree with you!, that makes the difference and help you to think and choose right.

Regards
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#1784539 - 11/07/11 05:34 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
Kawai James Online   content
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 5091
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
dx0m8w, I've deleted some old messages, so please try resending your message.

I'm afraid I've returned home for the evening, but will send the beta firmware update to you when I arrive at the office tomorrow morning.

Cheers,
James
x
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

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#1784548 - 11/07/11 06:22 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: Kawai James]
dx0m8w Offline
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Posts: 12
Ok, PM sent

thanks Kawai James!
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#1784620 - 11/07/11 09:54 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: EssBrace]
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Registered: 03/20/07
Posts: 1745
Loc: Oregon
Originally Posted By: EssBrace
It's impressive isn't it! Little problems occur from time to time but it is the company's response to the problems that tells the real story.

Yes, I totally agree. It's actually really heartening in this age of faceless and impenetrable corporations for an international company to have such a human face and response.

Thanks to James and the engineers for their incredibly speedy response!
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#1784634 - 11/07/11 10:29 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
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#1784899 - 11/07/11 06:27 PM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: dx0m8w]
Kawai James Online   content
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 5091
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Originally Posted By: dx0m8w
Ok, PM sent

thanks Kawai James!


Thank you!
Please check your Gmail!

Cheers,
James
x
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Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own.
Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

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#1785238 - 11/08/11 10:59 AM Re: Kawai MP6 Issue [Re: Kawai James]
dx0m8w Offline
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Registered: 11/06/11
Posts: 12
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Originally Posted By: dx0m8w
Ok, PM sent

thanks Kawai James!


Thank you!
Please check your Gmail!

Cheers,
James
x


Thank you very much!!!

Issue solved!

Regards
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