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#1795988 - 11/25/11 08:19 PM soloing on Moment's Notice
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I'm interested in how people think about this song. Key centers or anything else that simplifies the thought process.
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#1795993 - 11/25/11 08:44 PM Re: soloing on Moment's Notice [Re: 36251]
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1235 patterns
encircling of thirds
guidetone lines

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#1796017 - 11/25/11 09:52 PM Re: soloing on Moment's Notice [Re: 36251]
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you might have to elaborate but it sounds like what i do when i improvise. (i pick a song, find the chord progression and go from there.
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#1796031 - 11/25/11 11:11 PM Re: soloing on Moment's Notice [Re: 36251]
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Here's a link to Coltrane's solo neatly written out, he's outlining the changes very accurately:

He's mostly doing arpeggios, or that 4 note motif he was fond of: 1-2-3-5 or some pentatonic variation of it (5-3-2-1) (5-6-9-10). He also uses bits of scale passages. It's very similar to his Giant Steps and Countdown solos, but I recall those use more enclosures. McCoy solos look similar.

http://www.brucesaunders.com/MomentsNoticeTranesolo.pdf

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#1796687 - 11/27/11 12:19 PM Re: soloing on Moment's Notice [Re: KlinkKlonk]
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Originally Posted By: KlinkKlonk

....guidetone lines......


I've been spending quite a bit of quality time with this tune lately - moderately slow tempo, trying to discover pivot tones (common tones), trying to avoid patterns as much as I can (as much as I love Coltrane's solo). I'll let you know how it comes out in a couple of years wink!
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#1796696 - 11/27/11 12:39 PM Re: soloing on Moment's Notice [Re: 36251]
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Why would you try to "avoid patterns" ? Lines are shapes (and patterns are shapes that outline the chords). What do you mean then by "common tones"? Practice/analyze this and then mess it all up. That's when the fun starts:

http://www.brucesaunders.com/MomentsNoticeTranesolo.pdf

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#1797651 - 11/29/11 08:21 AM Re: soloing on Moment's Notice [Re: 36251]
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Jazz+, I mean tones that can be held across the barline through a chord change. I'm basically trying to insure that I hear things, instead of relying on scale or chord knowledge (in the visual pattern sense and/or finger pattern sense)......which may be for naught when I start practicing in tempo(!)

Hey, great website, transcriptions......


Edited by Gerard12 (11/29/11 08:25 AM)
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