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#1806411 - 12/15/11 02:07 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Dio666 Offline
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Registered: 12/08/11
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I'm almost done with Adult PA Book 1! The last song is Carnival of Venice and I have it down pretty well at a slow speed. I'll have a good chunk of time tomorrow for practicing so I should have it down solid tomorrow. I'll try and make a recording.
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Faber Adult Piano Adventures Book 2
Faber Developing Artist Library, Book 1
Chopin - Prelude in E Minor Op. 28 No. 4
Audio Progress Log:
http://soundcloud.com/rjdio666/sets/chris-learning-piano-12-2011

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#1806471 - 12/15/11 06:06 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: Michael Taylor]
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I am loving book 2 the pieces are a little too easy but that is great I can use them as simple sight reading exercises which you can never have too much of in addition because these early pieces are speaking about specific things like reading the coda or octaves
I can concentrate on one thing at a time and learn something new. I dont know all the musical terminology and there are things I have forgotten


also since they are so easy I find transposing them very manageble.
like i said before I am not going to skip this very valuable step again.
the book speaks about using the intervals to help you transpose I dont do it this way but I am going to take their advice and try it.



skipping to the end of the book I see that these pieces are really below my level but I really dont mind I am looking at this as an opportunity to catch anything i may have missed
basics are the key to mastery so I really did want to start at just below my grade level and then work past my current grade level with a good method book.

when I finish I will move on to book four in the childrens series

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#1806689 - 12/15/11 01:48 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
djheinen Offline
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Registered: 11/09/11
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I am also finishing adult PA book 1. My progress has slowed as the pieces have increased in difficulty. I am trying not to rush, as recommended by Mtaylor! I have worked on a few xmas pieces as well, but they are really above my level. I don't like spending a lot of time on something that I don't love. I want to play Blues piano, so my teacher selects on that basis. The only problem is that they tend to be a little too hard. I practice about 45 min a day 7 days a week, which everyone tells me is fine. I find I get bored with longer periods, but the problem may be not enough supplemental material. It sounds like you all play/practice with many more pieces. I have a "jazzy" sounding silent night in an easy arrangement, but it took so much time to learn it and the ending still isn't right that I am sick of it now. I think I will look for more books to play from.

as a side note. I listened to npr about an 85 yr old jazz who was "discovered" in a nursing home in Buffalo, NY. His story is amazing, as well as his playing. His name is Boyd dunlap and he is on itunes. Thought it would be interesting to this group.

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#1806694 - 12/15/11 01:52 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: djheinen]
maduro Offline
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I think most teachers supplement much material
even the thompson series
suggests other folios of music and etudes.

I would look at possibly buying some easy piano arrangements of whatever type of music you like to continue your journey

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#1806973 - 12/16/11 12:40 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Dio666 Offline
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Loc: Oregon, USA
For supplemental material you may want to check out the Faber PreTime to BigTime series. They have a Jazz & Blues book for every level.

I’m self-teaching and I bought the level 2A and 2B performance books from the standard piano adventures series for supplemental music and I’m not enjoying it as much as I thought I would because the music is so childish. So earlier today I ordered the first two Developing Artist books, (Prep. Piano Lit. and Piano Lit. Book 1). I’ll see how it goes when they arrive. I’m not sure if they’ll be too advanced for me. Right now I’m about 22 pages into Adult Piano Adventures Book 2.
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Faber Adult Piano Adventures Book 2
Faber Developing Artist Library, Book 1
Chopin - Prelude in E Minor Op. 28 No. 4
Audio Progress Log:
http://soundcloud.com/rjdio666/sets/chris-learning-piano-12-2011

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#1807136 - 12/16/11 11:35 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
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Thanks for the replies to how you guys practice. It gives me some better ideas and lets me know I'm on the right track. I also have Edna Mae's A Dozen a Day. However mine is the mini-book, it is the one before the Prepartory book. It was published in the 1960's! LOL I found it at a used book store.

I focused on my posture yesterday as much as I could. I caught myself a few times starting to slouch, but overall I felt less fatigued so I'm hoping that I'll start to be more self-aware and catch that more often. I have a cd on yoga and a few books and even the matts for it but until after Christmas I can't even begin to set that up. Company will be taking up my exercising spot! LOL

I've started to time myself during practice to see how long I'm actually there. I'm going to try to use that to slowly increase my time at the keyboard each sitting.

Yesterday was the first day that I was able to play through Jingle Bells with bh and it actually sounded correct! Yay! I'm making progress! I was very happy with that.

As for supplemental material, I used the internet to find appropriate ranged songs, and the used book store has all sorts of stuff in there too. I also know that I'm getting a pile of piano related items for Christmas and more music was on that list too. So I should have enough to last me the next few years! LOL.. I would be very bored without adding on. I need that extra music to drive me forward. I work on the method book to apply what I'm learning to my extra songs.

Dio: I listened to your pieces in your signature. They are very nice. I'm gonna have to look into doing something like that. What a great way to follow your own progress!
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#1807905 - 12/18/11 01:16 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Dio666 Offline
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Way to go on Jingle Bells, Becca. And just in time for Christmas! Thanks for listening to my recordings. Let me know if you decide to record your work and I'll check it out.


Well I think I may have hit the point I've been dreading, where my previous musical experience on other instruments is no longer carrying me through. I don't think any songs in the Adult Book 1 took me more than an hour or so to learn. Now I'm working on "Allegro in F Major" on page 34 of Book 2 and it's taken me probably four hours to get down. And even then, the tempo on the eighth-note runs on the left hand is not always perfectly steady.

The last recording I attempted a few minutes ago was almost satisfactory except the tempo on one of those runs wavers a bit. So I'm not sure if I should just post the recording to my soundcloud account and move on to the next page of the book, or if I should get it down perfect before moving on. Part of me wants to move on and assumes my left hand timing will fix itself with more experience, but the perfectionist in me wants to get it perfect. And I'm self-teaching so I don't have a teacher to kick my butt. I guess I'll work on it some more tomorrow and then decide.

So how "perfect" do you guys get your songs before moving on in the book? You can check out a few of my Book 1 songs in the link in my signature if you want to see at what point I call it good and turn the page, (the Beatles song is not from Faber but the rest are). I don't want to short change myself by moving on too soon, but I also don't want to waste time making things perfect if the imperfections are things that will take care of themselves over time. I guess that's why most people say to get a teacher...
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Kawai CN43
Faber Adult Piano Adventures Book 2
Faber Developing Artist Library, Book 1
Chopin - Prelude in E Minor Op. 28 No. 4
Audio Progress Log:
http://soundcloud.com/rjdio666/sets/chris-learning-piano-12-2011

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#1807932 - 12/18/11 02:44 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Michael Taylor Offline
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@666......you seem to be doing well. I move on when I don't feel challenged by the piece. The beginner pieces are so short and simple, they are easy to memorize. I move on when I start playing simple pieces from memory. I figure that once I am playing from memory, I am not learning anything.
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#1808012 - 12/18/11 10:21 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
djheinen Offline
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My teacher says its ok to move on even if it's not perfected, but to make sure it's not because you are rushing. Also, it's imperative to move on if you are bored or frustrated. good luck!

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#1808051 - 12/18/11 12:11 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Dio666 Offline
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Okay, thanks for the advice guys. I think I'm ready to move on from this one then. And I tried playing it again this morning and the timing on the runs went much better. I think my arms were fatigued last night and good night's sleep helped, so I recorded it and posted it to the site in my signature if anyone wants to give it a listen.

To reward myself before moving on to the next challenge in Adult Book 2, I learned couple easy pieces from the 2A performance book which were easy but fun. One was a duet so I recorded the first part and overdubbed the second. So as much as I would love to have an acoustic piano, the digital does have its advantages, (the duet is also posted in my sig).

Thanks again,
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Faber Adult Piano Adventures Book 2
Faber Developing Artist Library, Book 1
Chopin - Prelude in E Minor Op. 28 No. 4
Audio Progress Log:
http://soundcloud.com/rjdio666/sets/chris-learning-piano-12-2011

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#1808606 - 12/19/11 12:30 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Marie50 Offline
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Registered: 12/18/11
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Loc: New York
Hi.
I just registered with the forum. I was so happy to see a Faber's group. I have been playing around on the piano with Alfred's Adult All-In-One for awhile now. But, heard that Faber's is better. I just picked up the Adult Piano Adventures and am really looking forward to playing with it. I already notice a difference in playing all over the keyboard instead of staying in one location. There is so much to learn and I do not have a teacher. I feel like I have already picked up a lot of valuable info from reading you posts. So, thanks everyone, keep it coming.

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#1808680 - 12/19/11 02:31 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Michael Taylor Offline
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Welcome aboard Marie! Which Faber book are you working on?
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#1808683 - 12/19/11 02:35 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
BeccaBb Offline
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Welcome Marie50! Does the Alfred book not move across the keyboard?

Well I'm doing good. Still perfecting jingle bells. It seems to get smoother everyday so that's a good thing. I have dropped the one Christmas song (We Wish You a Merry Christmas) due to the 8th notes. I'm just not far enough along to keep the rhythm going with those thrown in. So I'm leaving it for now and when I get to 8th notes in Faber, I will ressurect it then. I'm just happy I figured out what my issue was with that song. I was getting quite frustrated.

I hadn't realized how far along in the book I was. I'm on page 17 already! I work from page ten to where I'm at right now daily and I'm rather happy with my progress both on working from one end of my keyboard to the other and with my rhythm (which is getting easier to count and keep time every practice.)

I stop and move on when I'm also not being challenged. When my fingering, rhythm and overall smoothness leaves me with nothing to work towards then I move that song/piece into warm-up for the day and move the next item into "practice." LOL not that I've had much to move into that category yet!

I do find that there are things I wish I had a teacher for (such as when to move forward or how to move/not move to access keys on far end.) However I am happy with designing my own "lessons" and the fact that I really can't afford a teacher. smile
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#1808738 - 12/19/11 03:36 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
mom3gram Offline
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Marie50 and Becca, comparing Alfred and Faber adult books - there are things I like about Faber. The music sounds nicer. I like the way they ask you what fingers you are going to start on for each piece. And I like how they ask you to transpose to another key. But, honestly, as a self teacher, I found Alfred easier to follow. I think it's instructions are much clearer. But both methods are pretty good and will eventually teach you what you need to know.
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#1808838 - 12/19/11 05:56 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Marie50 Offline
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Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 4
Loc: New York
Thank you all for the welcome.
In Alfred's I got as far as Michael Row Your Boat Ashore; almost 2/3 though the book.
I just started Faber's Book 1. It is relearnig some material, but there is also new things in there too, like transposing. I never knew what that was. Faber's is taking a bit more concentration, the approach is a little different.
Alfred's was pretty easy to follow.
I will probably go back and forth between the 2.
I may try to work with a teacher for a little while for some face to face guidance.

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#1808939 - 12/19/11 11:07 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: Marie50]
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Originally Posted By: Marie50
Thank you all for the welcome.
In Alfred's I got as far as Michael Row Your Boat Ashore; almost 2/3 though the book.
I just started Faber's Book 1. It is relearnig some material, but there is also new things in there too, like transposing. I never knew what that was. Faber's is taking a bit more concentration, the approach is a little different.
Alfred's was pretty easy to follow.
I will probably go back and forth between the 2.
I may try to work with a teacher for a little while for some face to face guidance.

You should... Books can't teach one how to play with feeling and certain elements that need to be learnt from another person personally.
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#1809450 - 12/20/11 05:23 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
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Ugh really sucky piano day. I think I'm just too distracted or busy. Way too much to do and was thrown off my routine by unexpected long distance calls. Practice was horrid. Cut it short at 20 mins and try again tomorrow.
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#1809523 - 12/20/11 07:06 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
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Hi BeccaBb at least you got 20 minutes in! Today I got zero time and only about 15 minutes yesterday and zero all weekend! Yesterday I had my last lesson for the year and I was a bit sad cause I felt so disconnected from everything I was doing! As you say there are just too many Things to get Done before Santa comes!! And with two boys aged 5 and 7 we better be ready!!

I am hoping after the big day I can get in tons of
Time at the piano. It will be a welcome break from all the malls!

Wishing you the best through the holidays and tons of play time!
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#1809649 - 12/20/11 10:49 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
BeccaBb Offline
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Thanks Zoe! I was feeling very very frustrated. Just one of those days where nothing goes right. A little nap with my boyfriend and reading your post I feel better.

Good lord ages 5 and 7 are a handful! I don't know how you get ANY time at the piano! lol... mine are now 19 and 16 so I have much more freedom and they both help critique and encourage me.

I hope you get lots of quiet time over the holidays too! Merry Christmas Zoe. smile
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#1810629 - 12/22/11 01:16 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Dio666 Offline
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As I think I mentioned in an earlier post, I was not too happy with the 2A and 2B performance books for use as supplemental material to the Faber adult books because the songs were a bit too childish for my taste, (I'm a little ways into Adult Book 2 right now). So I ordered and just received last night the Faber Developing Artist Prep Piano Lit. and Piano Lit. Book 1.

When I first looked at the music in the Prep Lit. book I thought it would be too easy, and playing the LH and RH parts separately was easy. But putting them together was a real challenge! After playing the first few songs and listening to the CDs for both, I think I'm going to be really happy with them.

Most of the songs are probably available in the public domain, but coming from Faber these have the formatting I'm used to along with finger numbering on tricky areas, and the CD will be a huge help in hearing what the song is supposed to sound like.

A student would probably be able to tackle the Preparatory Literature book after getting half-way through the Adult Book 1, but like I said, putting the left and right parts together is the challenge.
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Faber Adult Piano Adventures Book 2
Faber Developing Artist Library, Book 1
Chopin - Prelude in E Minor Op. 28 No. 4
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#1810631 - 12/22/11 01:20 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
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Dio666, I'm glad the Developing Artist books are meeting your needs. An additional nice thing about getting books is that all the music has been selected already; no need to hunt around trying to find pieces at the right level.
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#1810649 - 12/22/11 01:35 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
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That is good news Dio. I know I have some performance books headed my way but I'm not nearly as advanced as the rest of you guys on here. LOL Can't wait for Christmas this year. smile

I'm up to page 19 already. Man it's wizzing by. I don't have a pedal yet for my keyboard though.. so I had to skip the pedaling part of the lessons and will have to return to that when I get a pedal. (It had to be ordered.) I also asked a question about why I'm using particular fingering in the teachers corner.

How is everyone else holding up so far?
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#1811424 - 12/23/11 07:15 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Marie50 Offline
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Registered: 12/18/11
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Loc: New York
Hi, everyone. I am meeting with a teacher for my first piano lesson on Monday, 12/26. I am excited, but a little nervous too. I haven't played in front of anyone before. Any suggestions? What should I be prepared to play? Not sure what to expect.

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#1811609 - 12/24/11 03:19 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Michael Taylor Offline
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Marie....good luck with your teacher. I believe that having a good teacher will add structure to your practice and improve your technique. I recommend that you bring the material that you have been using. Don't be surprise if your teacher has you take a few steps backward.

I am still learning a few Christmas pieces. I have Rudolph The Red Nose Reindeer at a playable level. I have already started making a few "tweaks." I started playing Jesu, Joy of Mans Desire tonight......it's not performance ready yet!

Merry Christmas!
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#1812092 - 12/25/11 12:46 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Melody101 Offline
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I have both Alfred Adult books (didn't finish book 1) and Farber Adult Piano Adventure books (finished both), and I prefer Farber. The songs are much prettier, and I personally find the instructions and explanations in Farber much clearer. I enjoyed almost all the songs in Farber, but only a few in Alfred. I wanted to pick up other books in the Farber series, but my teacher said that the pieces are too watered down and prefer that I start playing "original songs." He recommended the Bastien Piano Literature. I am at vol. 1, and some songs are much more difficult than others. Good luck -- you will enjoy the Farber books!

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#1812135 - 12/25/11 06:55 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Marie50 Offline
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Loc: New York
I am really looking forward to the lessons, but also fighting the insecure feelings of being such an total beginner. Never too late, never too late, never too late.

Michael...
I love the song Jesu, Joy of Man's Desire. It is such a beautiful piece. The best of luck with it!!! Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas everyone.

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#1812151 - 12/25/11 09:02 AM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
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I love "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desire" also. I played a really easy version when I first started, and would like to learn an intermediate version now.

Yesterday I finally nailed "Carol of the Bells" from the Faber Christmas for All Times - that's the good part. The bad part is that by the time I could play it and get the LH and the pedalling down perfectly, I was really, really sick of it. LOL I may not ever want to play it again. Next year "O, Holy Night" will be at the top of my Christmas music list.
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#1812192 - 12/25/11 12:06 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
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Merry Christmas everybody! I have really come to love the Faber arrangements. When I first started with my teacher she recommended them to me and I'm so glad. I have several of the level 2,3, and 4 Big Time series. My favorite of all is the Christmas book. I worked on 5 of them this last few weeks and finally posted the last of them last night in the holiday performances thread.

I didn't get sick of any of them but was challenged by the pedal in the First Noel so recorded it without pedal. The hardest to get a clean recording of was Carol of the Bells. I had to slow it down quite a bit. And Jesu, Joy of Mans Desiring I think I overplayed it. I just recorded it 2 days ago but think I was playing it nicer a week or so ago. My teacher says to be careful of over playing things as they may become messy/sloppy. Oh well I know better now. What I really like about this series is that each song taught me something new and was fun to play.

I use the level 2 books for site reading practice as they are more fun to do. And I'm finding I didn't need much time to bring these up to speed. The level 4 took a bit longer. I wish there was a level 5 Big Time series!
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#1812204 - 12/25/11 12:32 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
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Merry Christmas to all Piano Adventurers!
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#1812226 - 12/25/11 02:08 PM Re: Faber and Faber Piano Adventures all levels [Re: PianoStudent88]
Michael Taylor Offline
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@zoe.....I think there is a level 5.

Merry Christmas!
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