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#1992471 - 11/29/12 03:35 PM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Batuhan]
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List85 is no longer a member and can't answer, but I can't help but say that neither are you the best interpreter of his sentence. A champion does not equal "the" champion.
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#1992472 - 11/29/12 03:37 PM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Damon]
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And even "the" champion may not be the best interpreter.
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#1992475 - 11/29/12 03:44 PM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Batuhan]
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Originally Posted By: Batuhan
Originally Posted By: liszt85
Damon, he was a champion of Chopin's music. Which Chopin performance of his do you like the best? laugh


No, He's not the best Chopin interpreter. Absolutely NOT.

He can't even compete with Paderewski and Cortot.


You misunderstand the use of the word "champion" in this context. It means to promote, to advocate, to stand up for; it has nothing to do with being "the best."

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#1992479 - 11/29/12 03:51 PM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
Originally Posted By: Batuhan
Originally Posted By: liszt85
Damon, he was a champion of Chopin's music. Which Chopin performance of his do you like the best? laugh


No, He's not the best Chopin interpreter. Absolutely NOT.

He can't even compete with Paderewski and Cortot.


You misunderstand the use of the word "champion" in this context. It means to promote, to advocate, to stand up for; it has nothing to do with being "the best."

Regards,


Thank you for your gently warning. Sorry for my nescience
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#1992569 - 11/29/12 07:44 PM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Damon]
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I have been sitting on the fence deciding if I want to purchase the new, lower priced Rubinstein boxed set. I understand he has many repeats of important work. Even at the low price, I don't know if I want five or six recordings of the same work by the same artist, but still interested because I love Rubinstein's playing. What do you all think? (By the way, even though I think Rubinstein was identified strongly with his Chopin, he was quoted saying his favorite composer was Brahms. This surprised me.)
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#1992579 - 11/29/12 08:11 PM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Chopinlover49]
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#1992591 - 11/29/12 08:44 PM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Damon]
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Originally Posted By: Damon


WOO boy! That is helpful, thanks for sharing! smile


Edited by Orange Soda King (11/29/12 08:44 PM)

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#1992598 - 11/29/12 09:12 PM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Damon]
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Personally I'd like to hear specifics about his womanizing. I hread he got more p***y than kitty litter.
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#1992644 - 11/30/12 12:47 AM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Chopinlover49]
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Originally Posted By: Chopinlover49
Even at the low price, I don't know if I want five or six recordings of the same work by the same artist, but still interested because I love Rubinstein's playing. What do you all think? (By the way, even though I think Rubinstein was identified strongly with his Chopin, he was quoted saying his favorite composer was Brahms. This surprised me.)


It's only about 4 recordings of each work. laugh But there is quite a difference between Rubinstein in the late 20's/early 30's when he was just a youngster in his 40's and the more mature recordings of the 50's through the 70's. There are about 7 volumes of the 'young' stuff that is incredible to my ears. What a wonder he must have been to see in concert back at the turn of the [last] century
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#1992646 - 11/30/12 12:56 AM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Ralph]
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Originally Posted By: Ralph
Personally I'd like to hear specifics about his womanizing. I hread he got more p***y than kitty litter.


That's crude!
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#1992648 - 11/30/12 01:04 AM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Damon]
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To Damon's most recent post: I agree! Anything and everything Rubinstein I enjoy. smile

And to Ralph's post that Bruce quoted: Why are you interested in somebody else's womanizing? Although, the cheap 20-year-old in me has to say that analogy did make me chuckle a little.

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#1992726 - 11/30/12 08:18 AM Re: Artur Rubinstein [Re: Damon]
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"...Even at the low price, I don't know if I want five or six recordings of the same work by the same artist, but still interested because I love Rubinstein's playing..."

It can be interesting to listen to the same Chopin work(s), interpreted by different artists, played one after the other (I have tried this; easy to do in this digital age, and worthwhile if you're realistic about your stamina). And who can say, the same might be true for the same work played by the same artist at different decades... if you have the attention span for it.

It might be like saying, "If you liked one dish of ice cream, then you might like ten." At least, with Chopin, you don't have to worry about your waistline.
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