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#1812153 - 12/25/11 09:12 AM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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I wish Argerich would not play.

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#1812378 - 12/25/11 10:08 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Sequentia]
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Originally Posted By: Sequentia
I wish Argerich would not play.

I wish you would not post on this board. You clearly have nothing to offer. If you do not like Argerich, then good on you, but don't be foolish about it.
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#1812386 - 12/25/11 10:28 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Sequentia
I wish Argerich would not play.

I wish you would not post on this board. You clearly have nothing to offer. If you do not like Argerich, then good on you, but don't be foolish about it.


thumb This board never ceases to amaze (/shock) me.
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#1812389 - 12/25/11 10:38 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: liszt85]
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Originally Posted By: liszt85

thumb This board never ceases to amaze (/shock) me.

So I wasn't hallucinating? Cheers, mate! thumb
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#1812393 - 12/25/11 10:52 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: liszt85

thumb This board never ceases to amaze (/shock) me.

So I wasn't hallucinating? Cheers, mate! thumb


No you weren't. However, it can get quite psychedelic (actually, psychotic) in here at times. laugh
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#1812395 - 12/25/11 10:54 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Five more -

Medtner: Sonata op. 30
Ruebke: Sonata
Villalobos: Rudepoema
Griffes: Sonata
Rachmaninoff/Kreisler: Liebesfreud

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#1812399 - 12/25/11 11:20 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Btw, I would love to hear her play some Debussy! I wouldn't know what to expect and I'd be very interested in finding out what it sounds like! Actually, I'm quite sure it will be great, based on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iH8kFrGnqc

So I'd like to hear her play the Preludes and Etudes by Debussy. Please let me know if she's already recorded them!
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Debussy: Le vent dans la plaine (Prelude 3, Book 1)
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#1812437 - 12/26/11 02:05 AM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Sequentia]
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Originally Posted By: Sequentia
I wish Argerich would not play.


Is there a fund set up to help people with broken ears? Because I would donate to it to prevent posts like this.
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#1812443 - 12/26/11 02:39 AM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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1. Beethoven Hammerklavier
2. Busoni Fantasia Contrapuntistica
3. Bach Goldberg Variations
4. Sorabji Toccata No.1
5. Rachmaninov Sonata No. 1 or 2 (original version)

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#1812569 - 12/26/11 12:13 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
I wish you would not post on this board. You clearly have nothing to offer. If you do not like Argerich, then good on you, but don't be foolish about it.


Not being a merchant, I can't offer anything other than my opinions.

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#1812573 - 12/26/11 12:19 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: jeffreyjones]
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Originally Posted By: jeffreyjones
Is there a fund set up to help people with broken ears?


Are you talking about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLJ48osG7wY

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#1812580 - 12/26/11 12:32 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Sequentia]
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Originally Posted By: Sequentia
Originally Posted By: argerichfan
I wish you would not post on this board. You clearly have nothing to offer. If you do not like Argerich, then good on you, but don't be foolish about it.


Not being a merchant, I can't offer anything other than my opinions.


Which pianists do you like? I'm very interested in your opinions on this subject.
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#1812587 - 12/26/11 12:43 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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wr, those are awesome suggestions. I am not really familiar with some but I would LOVE to hear her in those Ligeti Etudes.

I also often wonder what she might sound like in the Rachmaninoff or Chopin cello sonatas if she played along with Isserlis. I think he would tame her speed demons a bit and she would set his passionate side on greater fire. And they would produce gorgeous sounds.


Edited by Andromaque (12/26/11 12:45 PM)

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#1812606 - 12/26/11 01:09 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: jeffreyjones]
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Originally Posted By: jeffreyjones
Ginastera is the obvious one - the First Sonata and First Concerto. She kills the Danzas Argentinas, but we want more!!
So hard to not cheat on this...
Ginastera (sonatas etc.)
Granados/Albeniz - I think her playing is naturally passionate and nuanced enough to give Alicia a run for her money...
Beethoven's 4th concerto
Rachmaninoff - 2nd sonata
Ravel - Miroirs

Anyone else notice the lack of Liszt on this list?

-Daniel
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#1812617 - 12/26/11 01:17 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Ridicolosamente]
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Originally Posted By: Ridicolosamente
Originally Posted By: jeffreyjones
Ginastera is the obvious one - the First Sonata and First Concerto. She kills the Danzas Argentinas, but we want more!!
So hard to not cheat on this...
Ginastera (sonatas etc.)
Granados/Albeniz - I think her playing is naturally passionate and nuanced enough to give Alicia a run for her money...
Beethoven's 4th concerto
Rachmaninoff - 2nd sonata
Ravel - Miroirs

Anyone else notice the lack of Liszt on this list?

-Daniel


And the lack of Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Villa Lobos, Scarlatti, and Chic Corea. smile

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#1812618 - 12/26/11 01:19 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Damon]
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....And the lack of Chopin...

Not from everybody!
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#1812625 - 12/26/11 01:27 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: Damon
....And the lack of Chopin...

Not from everybody!


I didn't think he meant everybody's list. If he did, then he missed the two Liszt pieces I put down (or he's blocked me). I put down a Chopin piece myself.

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#1812671 - 12/26/11 02:52 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Ridicolosamente]
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Originally Posted By: Ridicolosamente
Anyone else notice the lack of Liszt on this list?


Liszt is generally well served by recordings.. it's natural to want to hear Argerich in some more unusual literature, seeing how her recordings of pieces like Ginastera's Danzas Argentinas, Falla's Noches en los Jardines de Espana, Bartok's Third Concerto and the first violin sonata, etc are quite successful..
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#1812672 - 12/26/11 02:53 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Oooh, here's some Tchaokovsky I wish she would put her mind to: the Second Concerto, in G major. THAT would be something to hear...
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#1812773 - 12/26/11 06:16 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: jeffreyjones]
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Originally Posted By: jeffreyjones
Originally Posted By: Ridicolosamente
Anyone else notice the lack of Liszt on this list?


Liszt is generally well served by recordings.. it's natural to want to hear Argerich in some more unusual literature, seeing how her recordings of pieces like Ginastera's Danzas Argentinas, Falla's Noches en los Jardines de Espana, Bartok's Third Concerto and the first violin sonata, etc are quite successful..
Agreed. I found some suggestions intriguing, and some baffling. Hammerklavier?? I love Martha, and I adore the sonata, but I can't put 2 and 2 together there...

-Daniel
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#1812831 - 12/26/11 08:13 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Ridicolosamente]
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Originally Posted By: Ridicolosamente
Agreed. I found some suggestions intriguing, and some baffling. Hammerklavier?? I love Martha, and I adore the sonata, but I can't put 2 and 2 together there...


Nor I, but it would be intriguing.

The suggestions in this thread have been fun, and anything Argerich plays could not help but be of interest, we have seen what she has done with Messiaen, Scriabin, (R)Strauss and Shostakovitch.

But I still go back to my original request: why has Argerich not played the Rachmaninov Rhapsody? The piece seems ideal for her, and a decent recording might exceed the composer's and go right to the top of the pile.
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#1812858 - 12/26/11 09:18 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Honestly, I can't think of anything. Maybe Prok 2, but I've heard enough of her to more or less know what to expect with anything I've not heard already.
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#1813324 - 12/27/11 06:49 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: boo1234

Beethoven 4th Concerto

Not happening, surely you know what is involved here?


Forgive my ignorance; what is involved there?

For my part, I was searching around to see if she had recorded Scriabin Sonata no. 2, and was very disappointed not to find anything.

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#1813332 - 12/27/11 07:01 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: aidans]
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Originally Posted By: aidans
Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: boo1234

Beethoven 4th Concerto

Not happening, surely you know what is involved here?


Forgive my ignorance; what is involved there?

For my part, I was searching around to see if she had recorded Scriabin Sonata no. 2, and was very disappointed not to find anything.


Here is one of argerichfan's posts from a previous thread:

Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: stores
My greatest memory of [Arrau] was hearing him with Beethoven's 4th back in the late 80s. For me it was a life event and something I'll never, ever forget.

Where did he play? Tell us more about this?

You probably know that a much earlier live performance by Arrau of the 4th concerto caused the young Argerich to be forever superstitious (she is very superstitious in an occult/Catholic sense) of playing this concerto.

It was Arrau's trills which pushed her off the deep end, odd considering how magnificent her trills are. I have no doubt Argerich would play the Beethoven 4 supremely, but she is not a 'normal' person, no more than a Horowitz or Richter.

So therefore we're cheated out... again.
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#1813337 - 12/27/11 07:06 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Fascinating!

I had never heard that. Nor did I know she was so superstitious.

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#1813442 - 12/27/11 10:29 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: aidans]
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Fascinating!

I had never heard that. Nor did I know she was so superstitious.

Don't worry -- I don't know if any of the rest of us did either!

I'm guessing it was quite an inside thing. smile
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#1813459 - 12/27/11 11:06 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Not sure about five pieces, but I really, really, really wish she played Prokofiev's 2nd Concerto.

I'd love to see how she would handle the cadenza of the first movement, since no one seemingly can play it live accurately.

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#1813788 - 12/28/11 01:20 PM Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played [Re: Orange Soda King]
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The Gonk by Herbert Chappell. Everyone should play it

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