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#1811280 - 12/23/11 03:50 PM
5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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My list:
1. Complete works of Prokofiev (okay, I cheated): I always thought she is a FANTASTIC Prokofiev player. WOW. I love how she does the 1st and 3rd concerto, the various sonatas she played, Toccata, etc. 2. Brahms' 2nd concerto: I bet this would have just been tremendous and fantastic on every level. 3. Brahms' F minor quintet: Most intense Scherzo EVER! 4. (EDIT) I changed my mind. Ravel's left hand concerto. 5. Saint-Saens' 5th piano concerto: She most definitely has the chops for all the technical hurdles and then some, and her phrasing in the 1st movement would have been golden, as well as the soft and delicate touch in the exotic second movement. Finale would give me the biggest adrenaline rush and sweep me to another world.
How about you guys?
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#1811295 - 12/23/11 04:11 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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I don't have her discography committed to memory, so she may have done some of these, but...
1. Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue 2. Scriabin - Sonatas #2, 4, or 5 3. Solo Rachmaninoff, or the 2nd Concerto 4. Something Spanish, like Albeniz' El Albaicin or Granados Allegro de Concierto 5. More Ravel, Miroirs or Tombeau
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#1811319 - 12/23/11 04:41 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Beethoven's Second Piano Concerto that she was scheduled to perform at the concert I had tickets for.
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#1811395 - 12/23/11 06:35 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Alkan Sonatine Ligeti etudes Liapunov Lezghinka Persichetti 10th Sonata Ginastera 1st Concerto
By the way, there is a recording of her playing the Brahms two-piano sonata with Zilberstein, which is close to playing the quintet.
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#1811448 - 12/23/11 08:16 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Bar none, Rachmaninov's 'Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini'. It would be ideal for her, can you imagine that? The mind boggles.
pianoloverus, Argerich recorded the Schumannn in her early days, I love that recording, so passionate. It meant a lot to me as a teen.
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#1811480 - 12/23/11 09:17 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
[Re: Orange Soda King]
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Yes it is hard to be sure, so for me the question has to be "want to hear" rather than "wish she played".
1. Liszt Tarantella 2. Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody #9 3. Chopin Introduction and Rondo Op16 4. Grieg - Ballade in G minor 5. Grieg - all the lyric pieces
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#1811483 - 12/23/11 09:21 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
[Re: Orange Soda King]
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I totally agree on the Liszt Tarantella, and also with the Rachmaninoff Rhapsody. For the Rachmaninoff, fortunately we have Phillipe Entremont and William Kapell.
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#1811485 - 12/23/11 09:23 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Yes it is hard to be sure, so for me the question has to be "want to hear" rather than "wish she played".
I understand! Anything Argerich plays would be of interest. I'm grateful we got the Shostakovich.
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#1811508 - 12/23/11 10:36 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini Beethoven 4th Concerto Beethoven 111 complete Bach partitas ... heck any bach.. her bach is fantastic! Prokofiev 2nd concerto
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#1811509 - 12/23/11 10:37 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
[Re: Orange Soda King]
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I completely agree about the Scriabin Sonatas, Kreisler. I've always thought that she would have been an amazing Scriabin interpreter.
If I had to choose one piece for her to play, I think it would be the Rachmaninoff Sonata No. 2, Op. 36. There are very few interpretations out there of the piece (Horowitz, Weissenberg, maybe Ashkenazy and a few others) that really do it justice (at least for me). I think hers would have definitely been added to this list.
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#1811510 - 12/23/11 10:39 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Not happening, surely you know what is involved here? And as for Prokofiev 2, well that is not important. If she wished to waste her time with it, good on her. But most of the praise of that concerto on this board tends to come from the youth with whom technique is the means to an end, and therefore it must be important. Sorry, compared to Prokofiev 3, his 2nd concerto is a joke. The same ones who insist on the BIG cadenza in Rach 3, even if Argerich knew better, as -apparently- the composer did too.
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#1811511 - 12/23/11 10:42 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Not happening, surely you know what is involved here? yes but this is a wish thread
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#1811517 - 12/23/11 10:56 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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I am not sure on her repertoire, i'm sure she has played some of the works suggested, but recordings do not exist.
1. Beethoven Piano Concerto 4
2. Schubert: Impromptu #2 In A Flat, Op. 142, D 935
3. Beethoven 29 Piano Sonata
3. Beethoven Romance cantabile for piano, flute, bassoon, oboes & string orchestra
4. Mendelssohn: Rondo Capriccioso In E, Op. 14
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#1811519 - 12/23/11 10:58 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Wow, that Mendelssohn would be AWESOME.
EDIT: And Variations Serieuses! And the piano concertos!
Edited by Orange Soda King (12/23/11 10:59 PM)
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#1811523 - 12/23/11 11:05 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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yes but this is a wish thread
Well of course, but I don't need to hear Argerich in Prokofiev 2, and I would never wish for it.
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#1811525 - 12/23/11 11:08 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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From what I have read, she knows those concertos -can you imagine?- but they were not recorded due to other competing versions in the catalogue. But too bad...
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#1811527 - 12/23/11 11:14 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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And as for Prokofiev 2... most of the praise of that concerto on this board tends to come from the youth with whom technique is the means to an end, and therefore is must be important. Sorry, compared to Prokofiev 3, his 2nd concerto is a joke. FWIW, I strongly disagree, my friend. I happen to like the 3rd more, but I think the 2nd is a masterpiece. (As are 1, 4 and 5 too!) I got to know #2 many years ago, before I had any inkling that it was such a staple of the competition repertoire. I'd never have guessed back then, listening to all 5 concerti, that #2 would turn out to be more popular than some of the others. It's like being back in 4th grade, before you know who's going to wind up being popular in junior high. -J
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#1811528 - 12/23/11 11:15 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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The same ones who insist on the BIG cadenza in Rach 3, even if Argerich knew better, as -apparently- the composer did too. I can't stand the big cadenza either.
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#1811539 - 12/23/11 11:39 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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From what I have read, she knows those concertos -can you imagine?- but they were not recorded due to other competing versions in the catalogue. But too bad... Competing versions? By whom?
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#1811549 - 12/24/11 12:07 AM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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FWIW, I strongly disagree, my friend.
But don't you basically disagree with everything I post here? (Sometimes it seems that way)
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#1811593 - 12/24/11 02:34 AM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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For the Rachmaninoff, fortunately we have Phillipe Entremont and William Kapell. Kapell  He's literally my favorite pianist, along with Lipatti and Terence Judd... those damn airplanes and suicidal thoughts! As for lovely Martha, I think more Messiaen would be fabulous. Her Visions de l'Amen with Rabinovitch is excellent and suits her temperament beautifully; perhaps Il de feu or (heart be still) Vingt regards?! Alkan would be fascinating... what a thought! Her need for speed would serve her well here. Ligeti and Ginastera, YESSSS....
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#1811600 - 12/24/11 02:55 AM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Interesting!
Let's see...
-- Scriabin Sonata 9 -- Chopin Polonaise in F# minor -- Beethoven Op. 110 -- Chopin Ballade 4 -- Mozart "Little Gigue" in G major
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#1811615 - 12/24/11 03:29 AM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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For the Rachmaninoff, fortunately we have Phillipe Entremont and William Kapell. Kapell  He's literally my favorite pianist, along with Lipatti and Terence Judd... those damn airplanes and suicidal thoughts! As for lovely Martha, I think more Messiaen would be fabulous. Her Visions de l'Amen with Rabinovitch is excellent and suits her temperament beautifully; perhaps Il de feu or (heart be still) Vingt regards?! Alkan would be fascinating... what a thought! Her need for speed would serve her well here. Ligeti and Ginastera, YESSSS.... Ginastera is the obvious one - the First Sonata and First Concerto. She kills the Danzas Argentinas, but we want more!!
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#1811624 - 12/24/11 03:54 AM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Interesting! -- Chopin Polonaise in F# minor -- Beethoven Op. 110 -- Chopin Ballade 4
+1 and Bach WTC1 Bach WTC2
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#1811681 - 12/24/11 08:08 AM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Not happening, surely you know what is involved here? And as for Prokofiev 2, well that is not important. If she wished to waste her time with it, good on her. But most of the praise of that concerto on this board tends to come from the youth with whom technique is the means to an end, and therefore it must be important. Sorry, compared to Prokofiev 3, his 2nd concerto is a joke. The same ones who insist on the BIG cadenza in Rach 3, even if Argerich knew better, as -apparently- the composer did too. I'm afraid these are two areas we will have to respectfully disagree. Actually, three areas... Mahler is a fine composer.
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#1811794 - 12/24/11 12:19 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Not happening, surely you know what is involved here? And as for Prokofiev 2, well that is not important. If she wished to waste her time with it, good on her. But most of the praise of that concerto on this board tends to come from the youth with whom technique is the means to an end, and therefore it must be important. Sorry, compared to Prokofiev 3, his 2nd concerto is a joke. The same ones who insist on the BIG cadenza in Rach 3, even if Argerich knew better, as -apparently- the composer did too. I'm afraid these are two areas we will have to respectfully disagree. There seems to be an almost mystical aura (or should I say 'awe'?) surrounding Prokofiev 2, and I suppose I might be more comfortable with it had the composer not gone on to write a 3rd concerto, IMO, one of the most sublimely conceived works for piano and orchestra, as perfect as music can be.
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#1811803 - 12/24/11 12:30 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
[Re: Orange Soda King]
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My list:
8th sonata - Prokofiev All ligeti etudes Complete esquisse d'oisseaux - Messiaen
Well, this far exceeds 5 pieces^^
The thing is that she plays (as almost anything she plays) these "types" of music so well!
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#1811810 - 12/24/11 12:50 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
[Re: Orange Soda King]
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Depending on your point of view, her interpretations of the following might be either painful(but still interesting) or absolutely brilliant:
Mozart Fantasia in C minor K475 Schubert "Wanderer" Fantasy Franck Symphonic Variations
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#1811998 - 12/24/11 07:51 PM
Re: 5 pieces you wish Martha Argerich played
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Oh yes, Schubert Wanderer Fantasy is another good one.
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