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Originally Posted by fuzzy8balls
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I can't stand people being so snooty about classical music, I think that's why it gets a bad rep. Whatever music it is, enjoy it; but if you don't that's fine, you don't need to write a dissertation either way.


ha Yeah..it is like a dissertation. But he has the patience to write such a long post like that....two thumbs up for the effort. I have no patience to read his post.

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But he has the patience to write such a long post like that....two thumbs up for the effort.


but i looks like copy and paste from totally different topics laugh

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Omg I just read the whole thing and I have absolutely nothing to say...perhaps the op is talking about the importance of piano as art as opposed to athleticism? I'm going to have to chew on this morsel more though if I'm going to respond with anything coherent.

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Originally Posted by Hakki
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Oh... Well, based on BachMach2's essay and attempt to play all the Beethoven sonatas, s/he seems to be passionate about piano and this is certainly the right place to share that devotion. Let's give him/her a chance to become accustomed to the "culture" here.


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Condescending, to put it nicely, are some of the answers that followed the op. At least be polite. I read posts and opinions here from time to time that i consider utter rubbish, i just don t feel the need to point them out. What was actually wrong with the OP?

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I'm assuming we're getting trolled by the OP, either intentionally or unintentionally... doesn't matter.

This is further confirmed by his attempts of trying to record the first 8 Beethoven Sonatas -- which are a joke. The original post is heavily drenched in arrogant rhetoric from someone that has no skill at the keyboard to back it up. And finally, it is also quite rude to push theistic beliefs onto others.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy8balls
I'm assuming we're getting trolled by the OP, either intentionally or unintentionally... doesn't matter.

This is further confirmed by his attempts of trying to record the first 8 Beethoven Sonatas -- which are a joke. The original post is heavily drenched in arrogant rhetoric from someone that has no skill at the keyboard to back it up. And finally, it is also quite rude to push theistic beliefs onto others.


Well, there is something mighty strange about his mentioning Ashkenazy's "wayward interpretation" of Chopin's 1st Ballade, while at the same time making some downright laughable recordings. It's impossible for him to listen with such a fine, critical ear to other musicians, yet not be able to hear what he himself is playing. I would bet he is a fine musician with a gift for parody; he must have some gift to learn all those sonatas, record them in recognizable form yet with just enough wince-inducing passages to make the listener wonder what is going on. And that's putting it mildly wink

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Regardless of what we all think of the original post, it seems pointless and a waste of time to continue to comment on it unless the OP also participates in the discussion. The same thing applies to his thread with the Beethoven recordings.


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Originally Posted by cefinow
Originally Posted by fuzzy8balls
I'm assuming we're getting trolled by the OP, either intentionally or unintentionally... doesn't matter.

This is further confirmed by his attempts of trying to record the first 8 Beethoven Sonatas -- which are a joke. The original post is heavily drenched in arrogant rhetoric from someone that has no skill at the keyboard to back it up. And finally, it is also quite rude to push theistic beliefs onto others.


Well, there is something mighty strange about his mentioning Ashkenazy's "wayward interpretation" of Chopin's 1st Ballade, while at the same time making some downright laughable recordings. It's impossible for him to listen with such a fine, critical ear to other musicians, yet not be able to hear what he himself is playing. I would bet he is a fine musician with a gift for parody; he must have some gift to learn all those sonatas, record them in recognizable form yet with just enough wince-inducing passages to make the listener wonder what is going on. And that's putting it mildly wink


I wanted to say something similar and then deleted it because I wanted to give the OP a chance to come respond to some of these posts. I agree completely with the above posts. Those recordings (the 8 sonatas posted by the OP) can be claimed to be perfect with small errors only by somebody delusional.

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It is distressing to see a newcomer being eviscerated like this on the forum. His first post may have been verbose and his recordings of the Beethoven sonatas may not be the greatest but he is an amateur doing this for the love of it. His goal of recording all the Beethoven sonatas is certainly a laudable one. Why not just offer him suggestions for improvement instead of calling him delusional and a troll?


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Originally Posted by jazzyprof
It is distressing to see a newcomer being eviscerated like this on the forum. His first post may have been verbose and his recordings of the Beethoven sonatas may not be the greatest but he is an amateur doing this for the love of it. His goal of recording all the Beethoven sonatas is certainly a laudable one. Why not just offer him suggestions for improvement instead of calling him delusional and a troll?


Because the first step towards improvement is to fully realize what aspects of one's playing suck. Clearly, the OP has no clue whatsoever and seems to completely believe that those sonatas are almost perfect. We are doing him/her a favor, I assure you of that.

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Originally Posted by liszt85

Because the first step towards improvement is to fully realize what aspects of one's playing suck.

It's not clear to me how calling someone delusional informs him of the aspects of his playing that suck.


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Originally Posted by BruceD
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BruceD: You read his whole post?
Twice, to try to get at the essence of his post.

You are destined for sainthood, I'm sure of it.

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I couldn't much make it past the first couple of paragraphs, and just quickly scanned the rest. It was way too disorganized and unfocused for me. I figured I'd wait to see what other posts he might have, now that he got this off his chest. smile

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Somehow I am reminded of PartyPianist... wink


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