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#1819358 - 01/05/12 09:46 PM Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another)
dcb1987 Offline
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Registered: 01/05/12
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Loc: Chicago
Hi,

Quick background: From late elementary school through the beginning of high school, I learned piano on a family heirloom upright (not sure what type or if it was any good...would guess no, though).

Of course, I hated piano then, though I made decent progress. Recently, I have taken piano back up and absolutely love it. I'm more interested in learning classical, but I like some pop from time to time.

My skills have regressed quite a bit (I would probably consider myself an advanced beginner on a good day). I've been practicing on a friends keyboard (low quality) and on an upright in the break room at my grad school when I can.

I'd like to buy a digital piano but I'd like to make sure the piano I get is of good quality (at least in my price range) and has room for me to grow (probably about 4-6 years before I'll upgrade again). I'm most interested in the DP that can best replicate the sound and feel of an acoustic. I don't care about multiple voices, portability is of no concern, and I don't care much about aesthetics (nicer looking is always better of course, but far from a priority).

As a grad student I have some money saved but won't have any income to replace it for several years. Keeping this in mind, $2000 is my absolute max, $1500ish is probably a bit safer in terms of saving money for other pursuits, and roughly 1000 would be sort of ideal, if I'm not sacrificing too much.

Given all this, the p155 keeps coming to mind. Reasonably priced at about 900 to 1000, relatively good quality. Thoughts? Too old? Are there other DP in the under 2000 range that are worth the extra $$ over this (e.g. YDP 181, though I'd rather get increased quality for same price even if it means sacrificing the console)? Should I wait until NAMM to see if a new model announcements push prices down (esp. for the aging p-155)? I'm getting a bit antsy, not having a piano to play on regularly.

Thanks for reading such a long post. I look forward to hearing your suggestions.



Edited by dcb1987 (01/05/12 09:48 PM)

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#1819361 - 01/05/12 09:49 PM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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Roland FP-7F.
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#1819391 - 01/05/12 10:26 PM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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Go to a local store. They all carry Yamaha and Roland. See if you like the P155. If you do, get that. It's the best deal in digital pianos. Good sounds, good action, small, cheap. It's not too old. I expect that it will be years before it will be replaced. (use headphones when testing)

If you hate the Yamaha feel or sound, then look to the Roland FP7F.

Failing that, consider Kawai MP6. The problem will be finding a place to test it, but it's a winner.

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#1819432 - 01/05/12 11:42 PM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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I've tried both the P155 and the FP7F. While I like both, I definitely did like the Roland a bit better. I grew up playing a heavy upright, but I always liked the lighter grand touch of my teacher's piano and the Roland better emulates that. Sound wise, I liked both. I probably prefer what I heard as a deeper, Roland, but there are times when I liked the airier Yamaha.

So all in all, I'm still sort of stuck. I like the Roland better, but it's not a blow out (yet). I'm just not sure if it was enough to justify the extra 800 or so. I'm not very discerning right now and have been practicing on garbage, so the Roland might continue to please me more and more. I haven't tried the MP-6, but I'm intrigued, as I've heard good things.

Prices I've been able to find are 999 for the Yamaha (with LP 140 stand and bench), 1499 for the MP-6, and 1699 for the Roland (both without stand and bench) - all prices for new. I'm leaning towards the Roland, but just can't pull the trigger. Not sure I'll be able to beat that price, though.

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#1819569 - 01/06/12 08:59 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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The P155 is a good value, but there's a fair amount to hate in there when it comes to sound, and if you practice through headphones you'll probably end up hearing it sooner rather than later. Maybe try to find a used RD-700GXF? I see one at Sweetwater for $1550 "like new" & free shipping.
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#1820057 - 01/07/12 01:42 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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Well, others convinced me that I really wanted the Roland FP-7F, so I purchased it. No regrets.

However, I've just about busted the bank and don't yet have a stand or bench. Ultimately, I'd like to get the Roland would stand, as I won't be moving this thing around unless my landlord kicks me out when I can't afford rent next month laugh. So, can you guys give me suggestions on a stand and bench that come to a total of about $100 or less, keeping in mind that I will be able to upgrade to better equipment in 4 to 6 months.

For the stand, first and foremost, I want something that can hold the board safely and securely. I'd also like to be able to comfortably place my legs in the proper position without hitting some bar on the stand. I won't be moving the piano around, so portability is not an issue.

If I have to skimp now, I'd prefer it be on the bench. Something functional at the proper height. More comfortable if possible at such a limited price range.

If it matters, I'm 6'1 195.

Thanks! These forums have been really informative.

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#1820086 - 01/07/12 03:34 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PlatformStd is all the stand you will ever need.
Nobody needs a bench ...I use a cheap office chair ...nothing is as comfortable.
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#1820088 - 01/07/12 03:39 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: Dr Popper]
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Originally Posted By: Dr Popper
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PlatformStd is all the stand you will ever need.
Nobody needs a bench ...I use a cheap office chair ...nothing is as comfortable.


I disagree. I have one, and there is some side to side wobble. It's not too bad, but I do not think it qualifies as "all the stand you will ever need" by any means.

Greg.
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#1820095 - 01/07/12 04:02 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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Absolutely no side-to-side wobble on my K&M stand.

James
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#1820096 - 01/07/12 04:05 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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James - got a link to your stand?
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#1820101 - 01/07/12 04:11 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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#1820105 - 01/07/12 04:36 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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Looks like a more solid version of the Onstage idea, doesn't it.
Anyway, in my honest opinion, the KS7150 is not quite stable enough for everyday use, assuming mine is functioning properly. It is great for casual use when travelling though, and that's why I have this stand.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure I've seen positive comments about the stability of these other two Onstage stands: KS7350 folding Z and WS8550 T Stand

Greg.
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#1820691 - 01/08/12 05:37 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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Note that I've only had my PX-330 on the KS7150 so far. The amount of wobble may depend on the weight of the keyboard. The PX-330 is extremely light.
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#1820812 - 01/08/12 10:34 AM Re: Need help deciding on a DP (sorry, yet another) [Re: dcb1987]
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Registered: 12/26/11
Posts: 3
Gday Friend .. I just purchased the Roland stand ..this one and it is easy setup and stable .. I have the P155 ..
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/roland-ks-18z-keyboard-stand--88-keys/450697000000000

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