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#182075 - 05/04/05 01:00 PM Steinway Model O: 2-pedal vs. 3-pedal
retyrenc Offline
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Registered: 05/04/05
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Does anyone know why some Hamburg Steinway Model O-180's have 2-pedals (the O-180 in question is a 1924 Hamburg manufacture according to Steinway Hamburg, based on serial #)? When, and why, did 3-pedals become standard in the Model O (the current Hamburg Steinway catalog describes 3-pedals as standard for Model O-180's). Thanks in advance for any answers, thoughts, and comments.

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#182076 - 05/04/05 02:11 PM Re: Steinway Model O: 2-pedal vs. 3-pedal
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I have a 1917 NY model O, with 3 pedals. Maybe only the NY models were 3-pedal at the time?

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#182077 - 05/04/05 03:35 PM Re: Steinway Model O: 2-pedal vs. 3-pedal
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The sostenuto pedal was not popular in Europe until European pianos started coming to the US in quantity, about 1970 or so. They were probably more prevalent on Hamburg Steinways than other makes, but they were optional. Three-pedal Steinway uprights are relatively scarce, both Hamburg and NY. They seemed to be more popular before 1900, and then less so. They probably reflected what happened with other upright manufacturers, but Steinway was honest enough not to put useless pedals on their uprights.
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#182078 - 05/04/05 05:01 PM Re: Steinway Model O: 2-pedal vs. 3-pedal
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During the early 20th Century the sostenuto pedal appears to be standard on the A and larger sizes of the Hamburg Steinway pianos. The O and M normally had two pedals. Two pedals was normal for European pianos.

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#182079 - 05/04/05 05:12 PM Re: Steinway Model O: 2-pedal vs. 3-pedal
retyrenc Offline
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Originally posted by Niles Duncan:
During the early 20th Century the sostenuto pedal appears to be standard on the A and larger sizes of the Hamburg Steinway pianos. The O and M normally had two pedals. Two pedals was normal for European pianos. [/b]
Thank you Niles, BDB, & key88sf for your helpful and informative comments. Regards, retyrenc.

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