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#1822843 - 01/11/12 03:38 PM Metronome in practical RCM exams?
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The technical requirements book specify a tempo for each exercise. Does the adjudicator actually use a metronome in practical exams?

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#1822856 - 01/11/12 04:08 PM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: IPlayPiano]
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Wouldnt the adjudicator know the range of acceptable tempos by heart? Newbie here, but no professional truly requires a metronome unless its an extremely narrow range of acceptable speed, do they?

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#1822871 - 01/11/12 04:36 PM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: IPlayPiano]
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Well, I am sure they would know the acceptable range, but likely they are looking for rhythmic accuracy.

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#1822895 - 01/11/12 05:23 PM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: IPlayPiano]
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You don't need a metronome to judge rhythmic accuracy.
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#1822900 - 01/11/12 05:30 PM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: IPlayPiano]
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Okay, well, regardless I just want to know if the adjudicator uses one or not.

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#1822939 - 01/11/12 06:39 PM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: IPlayPiano]
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Originally Posted By: IPlayPiano
Well, I am sure they would know the acceptable range, but likely they are looking for rhythmic accuracy.

Didn't you say elsewhere that you are piano teacher?

Do you need a metronome to judge they rhythmic accuracy of your students?
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#1822965 - 01/11/12 07:46 PM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: IPlayPiano]
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20 years ago, when I took my RCM practicals in Toronto, I played my scales for the examiner. Just as I completed my scales, I heard the ticking of a metronome. I looked over, and on the examiner's table, a pyramid metronome was ticking away. It didn't bother me. I only heard it when I stopped playing. Presumably, the examiner was checking my tempo.

So there's at least one instance a long time ago when a metronome was used.
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#1823084 - 01/12/12 12:38 AM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: IPlayPiano]
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I took a pedagogy lesson from one RCM adjudicator who said in exams she DID use an electronic metronome with its volume off, and only it's light flickering.

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#1823433 - 01/12/12 02:37 PM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: Gary D.]
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Yes, I am a piano teacher. Because I am human, I do not have perfect meter. I get pretty close, but not perfect. I use the metronome to measure exactly how close to perfect meter my student's exercises are.

Originally Posted By: Gary D.
Originally Posted By: IPlayPiano
Well, I am sure they would know the acceptable range, but likely they are looking for rhythmic accuracy.

Didn't you say elsewhere that you are piano teacher?

Do you need a metronome to judge they rhythmic accuracy of your students?

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#1831638 - 01/25/12 02:40 PM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: IPlayPiano]
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I actually asked an RCM examiner about this, and she said most of them just know how long a scale should take to play at that level. For example, a 4 octave scale at 120 mm should take.. 8 seconds? Sorry if my math is wrong. At an AR level, they like to see scales under 5 seconds (note that the speeds listed in the RCM syllabus are for a pass -- 60%).
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#1832068 - 01/26/12 03:09 AM Re: Metronome in practical RCM exams? [Re: IPlayPiano]
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Originally Posted By: IPlayPiano
Yes, I am a piano teacher. Because I am human, I do not have perfect meter. I get pretty close, but not perfect. I use the metronome to measure exactly how close to perfect meter my student's exercises are.

OK. But you are confusing meter and tempo, at the very least. smile

If a composer has marked a composition as MM=x and it is clear that the composer really means EXACTLY that tempo, then most certainly setting a metronome and checking the tempo makes sense.

Is that what you mean? smile
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