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#1825822 - 01/16/12 09:47 AM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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I'm chiming in late here, but I'm glad you're deciding against it, Ann. My son for many years was involved in sports leagues at the local Y. We had something like five separate seasons each calendar year across the various sports. At each season, there was a photo day where you could order individual and group photos. It rapidly became very tiring (and expensive!) to buy those photos, but I felt a sense of obligation from both the organization (which made it clear it was a fund-raiser for the Y) and my son (who felt it was absolutely necessary to have photos from each season). Now I have a bunch of similar looking photos of my son holding onto various pieces of sporting equipment that I quite honestly could live without.

When my children did recitals for school events, what I *really* appreciated were professionally made videos of the performance, and I loved it when the school would announce they were having a videographer record the event with DVDs available for purchase. The videographer inevitably did a much better job of recording the event than I could have (just having a tripod made a huge difference), and it was well worth the price. I especially appreciated that it meant that all the parents could sit down and enjoy the performance rather than being obnoxious and crowding the aisles or standing up to get good shots on their own.
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#1825857 - 01/16/12 11:08 AM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Monica K.]
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Originally Posted By: Monica K.
The videographer inevitably did a much better job of recording the event than I could have (just having a tripod made a huge difference), and it was well worth the price.


It may not have been practical for everyone to use a tripod on this occasion. But it's amazing how many people buy expensive video equipment but DON'T see a tripos as being the default accessory! Filming without one is like playing piano standing up. It CAN be done, but you'd rarely want to.

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#1825902 - 01/16/12 12:15 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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Thanks for chiming in Monica. My recitals are professionally videographed and families get a DVD at no charge (a perk that GIST piano center offers). I think everyone is thrilled to get a DVD, and there has never been a request for professional photos. Everyone is happy with their snapshots.

I think that just knowing someone may not like my posting a recital photo on my website is enough reason for me to get parent permission first. When you're in business, you want to keep your customers happy.

I personally like a lot of privacy. The permission forms come home each year and I always refuse to allow the public school to use photos/video of my child.

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#1825926 - 01/16/12 01:17 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Exalted Wombat]
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Originally Posted By: Exalted Wombat
Originally Posted By: Minniemay
Our local branch was advised by our state association's attorney. Take a cue from your public schools. If parents have to sign a release in the fall, then it is likely the law in your state.

http://www.ftc.gov/ogc/coppa1.htm


I wouldn't bank on it! Here in the UK, media-led panic over anything that came within 100 miles of paedophilia prompted many schools to adopt a "no photography" policy. It's easier to give in than to argue the point. Last year a government spokesperson felt the need to announce "Don't be so silly, of COURSE you can photograph and video your child's Nativity Play!"


Indeed. And specifically a circular was sent to all state schools instructing them to desist from hiding behind the Data Protection Act as a way to give effect to their stupid policies.

The reality is that schools don't really know what it is they're afraid of, and nor do the parents. Photo-phobia is just one of those stupid things that seems to have caught on.

I, at least, refuse to give in, and try to make a point of challenging these stupid policies whenever I can. Unfortunately, while I can challenge schools, etc., it's harder to challenge individual parents without making myself deeply unpopular.

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#1825927 - 01/16/12 01:21 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Minniemay]
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Originally Posted By: Minniemay
Our local branch was advised by our state association's attorney. Take a cue from your public schools. If parents have to sign a release in the fall, then it is likely the law in your state.

http://www.ftc.gov/ogc/coppa1.htm

Thanks for the source! I never put last names with my pictures, but I still collect the release just to stay safe.
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#1825945 - 01/16/12 01:47 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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It's the law in California. That comes right from our attorney.
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#1827193 - 01/18/12 02:43 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Minniemay]
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This photo made it worth the effort of the photo shoot and the emotional turmoil resulting from it. smile The photographer messaged me to say a CD of photos is in the mail to me. And so far I've had no further pressure from her about photographing my students.

I have color also, but like B&W. I never would have scheduled a photo session for a picture of me with the piano (if she hadn't offered me a free photo session). But it's worked out great and I could use this on my website if I got the nerve up, and if I got the tech help.


Edited by Ann in Kentucky (01/18/12 02:45 PM)

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#1827218 - 01/18/12 03:15 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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That's a great photo, Ann. You definitely should add it to your website!
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#1827261 - 01/18/12 04:02 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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Ann, what a great photo!
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#1827282 - 01/18/12 04:22 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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Thanks Monica and Stanny. I admit I was hoping for a compliment. smile

I'll look into uploading it to my website.

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#1827320 - 01/18/12 05:11 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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I think that pic would be great on your website!
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#1827703 - 01/19/12 08:39 AM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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Great photo Ann! Nice to put a face with your contributions here.

Definately get it up on your website. With that warm smile, you will put your potential students at ease!
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#1827706 - 01/19/12 08:48 AM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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Thanks lilylady. To get the smile the photographer named an actor for me to think of. I said "He doesn't make me smile. He's a jerk." So she asked who makes me smile. I thought about it and then said "Jackie Chan". So that's my smile thinking of how I love Jackie Chan and his humor. laugh

I did my best to figure out how to get the photo on my website, but no success. So next time I see a certain family member with computer saavy, I'll ask for her help.

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#1827713 - 01/19/12 08:54 AM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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Very artsy photo, love it!
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#1829337 - 01/21/12 09:32 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: piano joy]
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whome

Here's the link to my updated website. http://normanpianostudio.wordpress.com

My sister helped me today and I've got my photo uploaded to my website. I also added bio information including admitting that my college degree is not in music.

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#1829365 - 01/21/12 10:25 PM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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Nice, Ann smile I like clean websites with lots of space. If I were in Lexington I'd give you call to see what might work. If nothing else, we might end up playing fiddle/piano duets!

Cathy
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#1830893 - 01/24/12 09:49 AM Re: Hire a photographer? [Re: Overexposed]
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Got my website tweaked a bit more, and added ear training exercises (with my sister's help). Now I am really thrilled with the professional look and usefulness of the site.

http://normanpianostudio.wordpress.com

Thanks for all the positive feedback, and yes, Cathy it would be great to play duets! smile

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