Hello all.Could someone please count out the rhythm of the 4th measure in the song "Sabor a mi".Thank you.

Tango

1 (e) & uh_____2 & uh_____3 & uh____4 e (&) uh

Think of beat 1 (and beat 4) as broken into 4 parts. The "& uh" for beat 1 is a little faster than the "& uh" of the triplets on beats 2 & 3 which break each beat into 3 parts.

On beat 2 the chord in the bass comes just a little after the 2nd note of the triplet above it.

I know it's confusing....kind of difficult to explain in writing. Anyone in Albany you could ask to show you?

Hope this helps a little....

Dan

Dan,Thank you for taking the time from your busy schedule as a professional.I wrote down the counting that you gave me on a note card.I will go to my keyboard and practice.Since you advised me that it was difficult to explain in writing means to me that I should get someone in Albany to explain it to me.Tango

Not picking on Dan, but if you're going to be relying on that note card, I think he made an accidental typo re where he put the parentheses.

Dan rendered the last note grouping as...

4 e (&) uh

I think it should be...

4 e & (uh)

For what it's worth.

Cheers.

Legal,

Actually, that now makes sense to me.

Thanks!
Dan

Dan,why in count 1 is the (e) in perenfences?Why in count 4 is the (uh) in perenfences?What does the perenfences indicate and what do you do while counting?Thanks.

Tango,

The parentheses Dan is using indicate that you rest (not play a note) on that part of the beat.

As he explained in his first post, beat 1 of this measure is broken down into four parts, counted 1-e-&-uh. For beat 1, he's showing you that you play a note on the 1... then rest on "e"... then play notes on "&" and "uh." So you get One-(e)-&-uh. The part in parentheses is to be counted in your head but not played.

Beats 2 and 3 of this measure, because they're triplets, are broken into 3 equal parts each, counted 2-&-uh, 3-&-uh. There are no rests there (no parentheses) because you play a note on every count.

Then beat four is again broken into four parts, like beat one, and counted 4-e-&-uh. But you rest on a different part of the beat. You play notes on 4... on "e"... and on &... but the you rest (just count in your head) for the "uh." So you get 4-e-7-(uh).

So counting the whole measure, and resting where there are parentheses, the rhythm goes:

1-(e)-&-uh-2-&-uh-3-&-uh-4-e-&-(uh).

Does that help or am I confusing you further?

Yes that helps and now I understand.Are there any rhythm books that you could recommend to me to teach me how to count rhythm?

Tango, I don't know of any specific books that do a particularly good job on rhythm... maybe somebody else will come along and recommend one. THIS BOOK is often recommended on these forums as a good general-purpose theory book, so it's probably worth checking out, but I've not used it myself.

I would say, though... in the kindest way possible... that if you're struggling with counting the rhythm you've given here, you should definitely seek some guidance, especially since your screen name and this song indicate that you're interested in latin music (which can be especially challenging rhythmically).

One thing I would suggest is to perhaps do some web searching and try to find some program that will let you hear the rhythms as they're notated. Either that or find a teacher or a friend willing to play them for you. Learning rhythm from a book, although helpful, seems to me like it would be an uphill climb without being able to hear the rhythms and get a feel for them.

Just my two cents. Cheers and best of luck.