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Hi 10
Now that you are approaching Book 2, I think it will help you greatly if you analyse the tonality in the JOI tunes.
A D maj chord does not exist on its own but as part of a sequence.
You can try your next JOI tune just looking at the chord names.


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thats a good idea.

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man, that is a hard one to sing!!

I did that one a while back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShieE2b7A5o

We must have the same influences you and I wink

You probably want to try to slow it down if you can.

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Have to admit, I found that one easy. smile Now Charlie - he was hard. Thanks for posting the clip. It's fun seeing the notes as you play. Naturally, I didn't think about notes.

I learned it mostly at 70%, some at 50%. Then it was easy to speed it up.

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They're all hard, Bird and Fats !

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I'm surprised how quickly you learnt it.

Knots
Your imitations are as cool as they come.

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hi custard, well, I suppose it was two weeks, it just felt much easier than bird.

Anyway, here's this week's offering of improv:
http://www.box.com/s/7celjzx9yk7xu0eo2rs2

This is Cmaj-Fmaj-Fmin, followed by maj-min 2-5-1 in Bb. I never felt I'd totally got these 2-5-1's, but I've still been drilling them.

I can't help but feel everything I do is terribly scalar. But if I try and make too many leaps then it all falls apart somewhere. Oh, and I was saying slice of pizza. Grateful for all feedback.

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Yo 10,

Sounding good. Leaps can simply be chords. If you spend 30 minutes working out the 1357 and 3579 up and down, you'll get it. It's also fairly easier to do the feeling in 4 on it, because they already come in blocks of 4.

How many keys you did this last progression?


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Thanks knots.

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Yo 10,

Sounding good. Leaps can simply be chords. If you spend 30 minutes working out the 1357 and 3579 up and down, you'll get it. It's also fairly easier to do the feeling in 4 on it, because they already come in blocks of 4.


Yes, takes time. I've been sticking to 1357. I can do it, I can integrate scales too. The I switch keys and it all goes to pot. Half an hour in one key, you reckon?

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er - that would be a grand total of one. C.

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It's up to you 10. I remember beeboss on the ABF thread suggested I go slow and deep when learning the tonality, and that's what worked very well for me. For others like Knotty, I think he did a few keys at once.

Those 3 scale ones are really hard. For that C maj one you did, I think I spent over 2 weeks on it.

For your Lesson 27 Hanon ascending did you use 232 12 343*321 as your fingering ? If so, did you find that you sometimes had to lift your hand where the asterisk is ?

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Hi custard, yes, I think slow and deep may be the way for me too.

I've been going easy on the hanons as my r thumb still gives twinges every now and then. I do that hanon 34323 454321 and didn't give the fingering a second thought. If I did that fingering you mention then of course I would need to move at *, unless if happened to be a black to white that I could just slide.

However, I do side step in Applescraps, between bars 1 and 2, finger four moves from the F to the A. I could have done that with thumb under, but I just thought I'd practice this move.

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Cool, I love the Lesson 27 Apple Scraps tune. I'm pleased you're trying the hand shift technique for Book 2 tunes.

And thanks for your fingering for the Lesson 27 Hanon, I look forward to trying it out tomorrow.

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10,

What I do with each tune is play the 1357 and 3579 up and down before I really even attempt to play the tune. I might do that for 20 mins.
I would say a short progression like that, it might take less time.
Each key, yes, you'd have to redo it. But it gets easier because the sequence is essentially the same so your ear's already got the changes.

Ideally, once you have it, you run it every now and then before playing the tune, that kind of gives you wings before playing it.

The 3 most critical things would be
1) melody (none yet in your case)
2) scales
3) Arps.

Other exercises might be to do a composition on the changes.
PLaying basslines on the changes.
And if you want to go all out, singing roots, 3rd and 7ths (or inner line, which has less steps), but that gets really tough.

Overall you find the balance for you. If you're going to spend 30 minutes improvising, at least spend 20 minutes improvising. Leave 10 minutes for those exercises.

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That's helpful, knotty. Overall I think I need things to aim for in improv practice. I'm aware I need to do it. I've just not yet found my groove of how to get there - like I have with other kinds of practice. I know all the tricks of how to practice sheet music.

I just now tried the 3579 arps, and it does throw me (where I can do this 1357 fine), so I should work on that.

Here is A Nightingale Sang again, I cleaned it up a little and re-recorded:

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Hey 10
That was a nice harmonisation. It must be a satisfying feeling to have done it.

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hi Laura, that was really nice, well done!..you might try this rule, #7 in the jazz snobs' handbook -never play a dominant 7th without altering something in it..at least a 9 or b9, etc..

You're doing great, thanks for posting:)

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Thanks guys! I'll bear that rule in mind, Dave. You have no idea what a footer I am when it comes to voicings, so right now I'm working on fluency and just getting the damn chord out before my audience has fallen asleep.

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I tried out your fingering for Lesson 27 Hanon. It's perfect and has made my task much easier. Nevertheless it's a hard Hanon, I'm starting it at 108 bpm rather than my usual 166 bpm.

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Please find the beautiful Lady Bird by Tadd Dameron, and my improv, maybe not so beautiful.

http://www.box.com/s/gdir0p77x75f1el7mqal

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Very nice 10.

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