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I have a 50 year old student who is completing Faber Level 3B. The problem is that now he tries to memorize each piece because he can't manage to read and play at this level.

It has occurred to me that he is doing this because his reading is weak. He enjoyed the Adult Christmas for All Time Book 2. I think he needs more work at level 2 to improve his reading. Any suggestions or books you particularly like?

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I find that short (4-8 measures) exercises are best for this problem. They can quickly study and analyze the material and the length makes it feel less daunting, like they have a real chance of making it through successfully.

There are lots of books out there for that purpose. Bastien Line a Day, Berlin's Four Star Sight Reading, etc.


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Thanks Minniemay, I'll look for these. smile

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Minniemay, after your post I recalled picking up a sightreading book at a workshop a few years ago. On my bookshelf I found "Sight Reading & Rhythm Every Day" Book 2B by Helen Marlais and Kevin Olson. I had never read through it. Played a few pages and it looks VERY good!

Next time I'm out, I think I'll get some additional levels of this sighreading series.

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I have recently come to think that sightreading is not a generalized skill but one quite specific to the type of material.

Sightreading novel material will not do much to improve a student's ability to read the type he's working on. To help it has to be a similar as possible in terms rhythm, harmony, fingering.

And, I think, doing a large amount of sightreading new material doesn't improve the skill as much as taking short sections and thoroughly learning them before moving on.


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If your sight reading gets good when playing lots of similar material, then it is possible that you are following familiar patterns, half-predicting them. Though your actual playing may sound better, is your ability to read actually improving?

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Well, good sightreading IS recognizing patterns. Being able to predict what is coming up is important. So the trick is, once you get comfortable with a certain kind of pattern, change it up.


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Minniemay, would you be open to saying that it *includes* recognizing patterns as a main component rather than that it is that? I have a feeling that this is important.

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I'm using the Marlais sight reading books with two of my students. They are working out well!


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Absolutely. The ability to recognize patterns is what frees up the eye and the mind to see what is out of the pattern.


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Originally Posted by Ann in Kentucky
Minniemay, after your post I recalled picking up a sightreading book at a workshop a few years ago. On my bookshelf I found "Sight Reading & Rhythm Every Day" Book 2B by Helen Marlais and Kevin Olson. I had never read through it. Played a few pages and it looks VERY good!

Next time I'm out, I think I'll get some additional levels of this sighreading series.

Sightreading is the first time only, no idea what something sounds like, never having seen it before.

I am more concerned about reading, meaning that if the 2nd and 3rd reading starts to snap into place really quickly, eventually the 1st reading (true sightreading) will be excellent.

thumb for the idea of short and reasonably easy pieces for practice.

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Originally Posted by Stanny
I'm using the Marlais sight reading books with two of my students. They are working out well!

Good to hear it. I'm seeing that there is a well designed structure to the 2B book that I have. (I received it free at a workshop, but never appreciated it until today.) So far I've played 3/4 the way through.

I suggested the sight reading book to my student this evening. He's going to think about it. I don't think he's entirely convinced that he would benefit from this work. I had him work on the first page, and it is NOT too easy for him. If he chooses not to get the book, I may use my copy for a few minutes exercises during lessons.


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I am more concerned about reading, meaning that if the 2nd and 3rd reading starts to snap into place really quickly, eventually the 1st reading (true sightreading) will be excellent.



My concern is reading also. This student is not reading well. So even though it's called a sight reading book, I'm concerned with improving overall reading.

He has spent weeks working on just one page of Canon in D (version in 3B book). In other words, 2nd and 3rd readings are not "snapping into place".

Taking the time to work through this book will give needed practice with rhythm and reading. I hope he will do the work.

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Hi Ann from Kentucky,

There are no short cuts to learning to sight-read ... adults might think that their worldly-wise experiences give them a head start ... but as you have found, gaffers tend to memorize
rather than genuinely sight-read the keyboard music.

My solution to maintain interest is always to find a piece of music that the adult REALLY LIKES ... like a an appetising carrot (that’s of course if you like carrots ... my preference is spinach feta) to ease the boredom of hammering away at so many repeats.

Hope you are having good weather,
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Originally Posted by Ann in Kentucky
He has spent weeks working on just one page of Canon in D (version in 3B book).

This raises a red flag for me. Usually by Faber 3B students should be fluently reading steps and skips, plus intervals up to a 6th. If he is spending weeks on one page, don't you think his reading level is below 3B?

I've worked with the slowest of the slow readers, so I know how you feel. Do you think he'd be willing to do drill-and-kill worksheets on note naming? I've discovered that people who recognize notes instantly tend to sight read much faster than those who were taught to count up or down from the landmark notes (or middle C!!).


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When I returned to playing, I made copies of the grand staff and placed one in each car,one in my purse, one in the bathroom (during hair drying!), you name the place. I would study it every chance I got, as I had forgotten quite a few of the notes, esp bass clef, no surprise. This really helped me get back on tract very fast and my sight reading is quite decent and FAR better than my memory.

(ps. I did not study WHILE driving, but while stopped at red lights- great use of those little moments )

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Minniemay, would you be open to saying that it *includes* recognizing patterns as a main component rather than that it is that? I have a feeling that this is important.


I think that there is a component of processing (seeing the music and producing the muscle movements directly) and a component of retrieval (recognizing and reproducing thoroughly learned prememorized fragments).

I think that for the really good sightreaders retrieval is about 95%. If so, that has implications for how to practice it.

There may actually be little difference between sightreading something new with familiar components, and playing a learned piece using the sheet music.


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Minniemay, would you be open to saying that it *includes* recognizing patterns as a main component rather than that it is that? I have a feeling that this is important.


I think that there is a component of processing (seeing the music and producing the muscle movements directly) and a component of retrieval (recognizing and reproducing thoroughly learned prememorized fragments).

I think that for the really good sightreaders retrieval is about 95%. If so, that has implications for how to practice it.

There may actually be little difference between sightreading something new with familiar components, and playing a learned piece using the sheet music.


There is also the issue of the eyes moving ahead of the fingers. That is a tough thing for most people to do as they feel more comfortable watching the note as they play it rather than relying upon short-term memory to continue the measure while the eyes move onto the next for processing/recognition.

Have them start out by looking/studying measure one before playing it (start with a piece they already know to develop this skill), and then cover it up, THEN ask them to play it while looking at measure 2 which is still uncovered. Then about halfway through measure 2, cover that up, and continue this through the whole piece.


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Thanks for the comments. I think I need more information. So I'll pull out flashcards and see how quickly he can name and play notes. But I really think he will do just fine with that.

Some worksheet drills with note naming and interval naming could be helpful.

But I'm thinking about Tim R's comment about processing. I have a feeling it's something about processing. This is the student who had GREAT trouble with pedaling. (And it's much improved now.) I think for example he sees that 16th notes are coming up and races into it, forgetting to count...an element of anxiety "Oh, no, it's going to get faster and it's going to be difficult". And this is where taking more time to tap and count prior to playing could help.

The sightreading book surprised me by having more than drills. It has suggestions along with each exercise. And rhythm exercises. Feels like you have two well respected professionals (Marlais and Olson) at your piano telling you their best advice for looking over a piece before playing. And different exercises. With some exercises they may suggest that you sing the melody, another they may suggest playing just the downbeat of each measure (while counting) etc. as preparation to playing the piece as written. I'm thinking this would be helpful.

btb, choosing material he likes is easy. He likes most pieces and is happily working through Piano Literature Bk 1 also (with difficulty). BTW, the weather here is very unusual. In 40's to 50's and rain for weeks. Perennials are peeking up in January. Very strange. How's your weather?

AZN, since Level 3B is not easy for him, that's my signal that he's really not ready to move to more complex material. But he was doing well until getting to the end of 3B. He tends to be prepared. It may be that he simply hasn't put much work in these past few weeks. But still, it is obvious that work at this level is not easy for him.


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Originally Posted by Ann in Kentucky


AZN, since Level 3B is not easy for him, that's my signal that he's really not ready to move to more complex material. But he was doing well until getting to the end of 3B. He tends to be prepared. It may be that he simply hasn't put much work in these past few weeks. But still, it is obvious that work at this level is not easy for him.



Sometimes when you find something like this happening, it usually means that a change in their practice routine is called for. Perhaps he's still in the habit of playing through pieces 2-3 times a day and doesn't realize that you need to do more detailed practicing? It really should not take this long at this level, so it's worth talking to him about. Make sure he knows that the things you do during the lesson is exactly how you want him to practice when he's at home. Sometimes they don't get this unless you say it specifically.


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