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#1882265 - 04/19/12 10:07 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: zrtf90]
piano joy Offline
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Originally Posted By: zrtf90



Check this out and see if you can see (or rather, hear) the difference. Listen to the articulation in the paradiddles (try around 2:19 - 2:21, for example) where every single strike has a different quality and accents the beat. Peter Jablonski is not a formally trained drummer, at least I very much doubt it - and I can usually tell - and he doesn't have that much experience in this video (in terms of years) but he is (now) a gifted musician (concert pianist studying conducting).






WOW! I love it! Sort of like the difference between someone just striking the piano keys and resulting in a bit of a harsh,mechanical sound vs. playing with more finesse and bringing out a "singing" quality, if you will. There's another word I'm searching for, that won't come to mind right now. I'm still working on the latter BTW! I've finally accepted that it's not my piano. smile

p.s. why won't Prince allow his music on You Tube?

(Griffin & Eglantine, hope you both feel better and I'm glad I'm not close enough to catch your colds/coughs!)
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#1882454 - 04/19/12 03:21 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Afternoon all... I'm having a bit of a lazy day and am very far behind on doing much of anything and I have to go to work yet! LOL

This is my mood today..
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#1882477 - 04/19/12 03:58 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Originally Posted By: piano joy
...the difference between...just striking the piano keys...and bringing out a "singing" quality...I've finally accepted that it's not my piano.


Yes, piano joy. Now you have it!

And being able to hear it is half the battle in bringing it out on your piano.

If you were to record, for example, Mozart's Fantasy in D minor, bar 20, repeated forte strikes on E you would see quite clearly where the notes were in the wave pattern in a sound recorder.
If you then recorded Chopin's 'Raindrop' prelude, no. 15, with it's repeated piano A-flats, you would see a much softer waveform. This is the clue to a fine cantabile.

The piano's sound envelope has a sharper attack and decay the louder you play. This results in each successive note making an abrupt entrance. (Are you familiar with an ADSR envelope?)

With a softer strike the A-D portion is more subtle and resolves more gently into the sustain portion so it's easier for each note to blend into the next.

Knowing this makes it easier to bring it out on the piano. Pick a soft, slow piece as a case study, I'd use Schumann's Traümerei but I've no idea of your own repertoire, and try to play every note fully bedding the keys but so softly that none of them sound. I used to do this as a youngster with absolutely no idea of the consequences - I just thought it was a neat trick! smile

But it gives great control of your piano (volume level). Try it for a few minutes each day as part of your technical work and see if you can hear the difference in a couple of weeks. You might record yourself first as your ear will adjust to this far sooner than your hand and you might think you're regressing!

Originally Posted By: piano joy
p.s. why won't Prince allow his music on You Tube?

I've a sneaking suspicion that a certain someone in the Minneapolis vicinity might have something to say on this issue.
<puts teeth back in>

Here's a little 'Get Well Soon' music for our ailing friends to convalesce to.

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#1882495 - 04/19/12 04:21 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: zrtf90]
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The ADSR envelope?
The only envelope I am familiar with is the kind you put a stamp on and mail!

smile

I'll "google"...must have something to do with the point of sound...Thanks!

(Becca- me, too! need sleep...)


Edited by piano joy (04/19/12 04:54 PM)
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#1882550 - 04/19/12 05:42 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Richard, Thanks for the beautiful Vivaldi!! Right on time. I decided to leave work early because I needed to get to bed and not spread this cough on to others at work.

That also gives me a little time to post some of the Prince music I've located for earlier posts I've done on him. These are also earlier performances. These were posted long before you all joined us. However, there are no rules against repeats occasionally.

Without further delay here is Prince performing "The Ride".

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#1882554 - 04/19/12 05:51 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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One of my favorites of all time. RIP Levon.

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#1882560 - 04/19/12 06:03 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: griffin2417]
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Here's one more Prince recording for now. Then I need to make a toddy!

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#1882563 - 04/19/12 06:07 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Hi Sandy! We posted close to the same time. Unfortunately, I can't view it on my iPad. I'll check it out later on my PC.

Now, for that toddy and a little nap!
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#1882819 - 04/20/12 06:09 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: griffin2417]
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Have a nice day all, we're finally due for rain!

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#1882865 - 04/20/12 08:10 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Hi!

I’m late, but welcome to Dipsy and Vegas!


When I was a child I felt shocked by the film “Fantasia”, especially by this scene. I don’t remember whether I felt scared by the images or the music impressed me.


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#1882957 - 04/20/12 11:53 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Recaredo]
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This thread brings back so many memories, i just have to add to...Loved Fantasia! And its Italian relative "allegro non troppo"...I was fortunate to have had a wonderful music teacher in school that exposed me to a wide variety of music.

Also, Griffin ...I too have some Prince stories...I worked on some of his music videos in the nineties! As well as the Sounds of Blackness...out at Paisley Park. Working on the Prince stuff made me appreciate him more even when I was told if I made eye contact with him I would be fired!

Here is a favorite from Allegro Non Troppo:



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#1882989 - 04/20/12 12:54 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Good day all!

Awesome Prince guys. I like his music quite a bit..

Here's another I could listen to hours of...

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#1883021 - 04/20/12 02:00 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Your Uncle]
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Originally Posted By: Your Uncle

This thread brings back so many memories, i just have to add to...Loved Fantasia! And its Italian relative "allegro non troppo"...I was fortunate to have had a wonderful music teacher in school that exposed me to a wide variety of music.

Also, Griffin ...I too have some Prince stories...I worked on some of his music videos in the nineties! As well as the Sounds of Blackness...out at Paisley Park. Working on the Prince stuff made me appreciate him more even when I was told if I made eye contact with him I would be fired!

Here is a favorite from Allegro Non Troppo:




Bob


Welcome to the thread Homey!! You are the first Minneapolis connection I've had on this wonderful thread. Thanks for sharing the Paisley Park stories. I haven't heard the Sounds of Blackness in years. They are amazing! I happen to work at the Capri Theater where Prince performed and eventually led to his first big recording contract. I'll be sending you a private message later today!

I loved the Allegro Non Troppo. I hope you'll continue posting. You'll find a very receptive bunch of folks here. I'm looking forward to chatting with you further.
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#1883023 - 04/20/12 02:05 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: BeccaBb]
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Hi Becca! I'm looking forward to listening to your post shortly when I can get to my PC. I am not allowed to see it on my mobile device. It's so good to see you back here, I'm still having to deal with this obnoxious cough and have had to slow my pace a bit until it eases up.

I'll check in later.
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#1883037 - 04/20/12 02:27 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Thanks Griff! I hope your feeling better soon! Have you tried boiling a bit of ginger root and making tea out of it? It might help if you can stand to drink it. smile

Love the Fantasia and the Allegro non Troppo. Brings back memories! Good stuff! LOL

Welcome to our "serious" thread Bob. smile
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#1883061 - 04/20/12 03:05 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Thank you, Griffin, for the Prince. I had planned to go through the earlier pages at some stage but they're growing all the time and it's looking less achievable.

Was it not just recently we hit one million views? Do my eyes deceive me? Are we at nearly at one and a quarter million? Kudos, Rossy, for what you've done!

Welcome, Bob. Thank you for the moon toon.

I've been listening to the 'hands of silk' recently, Rubén González. A bit of Latin for Friday night.

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#1883068 - 04/20/12 03:16 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: zrtf90]
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Bob, (welcome!) why were you not allowed to look at him? How odd he was, eh? Was that the same time he didn't have a name, only a symbol ?
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#1883100 - 04/20/12 04:13 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: piano joy]
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Originally Posted By: piano joy
Bob, (welcome!) why were you not allowed to look at him? How odd he was, eh? Was that the same time he didn't have a name, only a symbol ?


Yes, symbol at that time..."the gold experience" album. I don't know about the eye contact thing...I had heard he was playing the diva because he didn't like his contract under Warner bros...but who knows? I've liked his music from the beginning but it was bizarre...we would sit around for hours (like 12!) waiting for him to "feel it" and perform...many 18 hour days.

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#1883106 - 04/20/12 04:16 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Your Uncle]
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Thanks!
I wonder how that would fly at my work.

"boss, sorry, don't call me by my name and don't look at me. And I'll start work when I FEEL like it!"


ha ha!
Oh, to be self employed....

(I'd post "Cream" if I could find it!)


Edited by piano joy (04/20/12 04:23 PM)
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#1883230 - 04/20/12 07:25 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Wow, you guys are posting terrific stuff!

Here's a Floyd with a little twist.

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#1883250 - 04/20/12 08:06 PM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: KeysAngler]
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Originally Posted By: KeysAngler
... here's one of my favorite guitar solos by Prince ...


I just watched this. I also had no idea Prince could play like that. The other thing that struck me is that overall the band and the song sounded good. In my experience it's pretty rare to see an all star line up with 'too many'people on stage and too many guitars that sounds any good.
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#1883378 - 04/21/12 01:21 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Newman]
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Speaking of Guitar Solos . . .


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#1883428 - 04/21/12 04:00 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Your Uncle]
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Originally Posted By: Your Uncle
Originally Posted By: piano joy
Bob, (welcome!) why were you not allowed to look at him? How odd he was, eh? Was that the same time he didn't have a name, only a symbol ?


Yes, symbol at that time..."the gold experience" album. I don't know about the eye contact thing...I had heard he was playing the diva because he didn't like his contract under Warner bros...but who knows? I've liked his music from the beginning but it was bizarre...we would sit around for hours (like 12!) waiting for him to "feel it" and perform...many 18 hour days.

Bob

Yeah, (as reported at the time) Prince wanted more control over his music - not creative control (he had that) but publishing/ownership rights. Also, he wanted to release allot more music than just an album a year. WB, obviously had issues about saturating the market with too much Prince music....but as us fans would argue...there's never enough Prince music. More, more, more.
Thanks for the Prince anecdotes. Nice to know there lots of love for Prince here at PW. The Prince fans sites on the web are aweful places to be. Looking forward to his shows next month.

Becca, loved that acoustic version of MM's Last Day on Earth.
Sandy, Great version of Mother with Sinead O'Conner. I am just making my way through her latest album. Missed out on seeing Roger Waters The Wall concert a couple of months ago here in Sydney.

Would like to share a cover version Piano Joy reminded me of. This was the way i was introduced to CCR's music. I can listen to both not feel like i have heard the same song twice. I love a good cover that exposes the song for what it is....a great song. Like Tori Amos' version of Smell's like Teen Spirit, or Frente's Bizzare Love Triangle (not to take anything away from the originals).


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#1883488 - 04/21/12 07:47 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Fitting title for upcoming deluge tomorrow and Monday. I hope this hasn't been posted, I tried a search but I haven't quite gotten the hang of the search feature. blush

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#1883497 - 04/21/12 07:57 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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PPP, did you learn nothing from the drumming discussion?
<bangs head despondently on desk and sobs>

vegasE, I'm really looking forward to more of your posts! I wrote earlier about creative input in cover versions. This is a very fine example. I'm not sure the mood created by the music was entirely in keeping with the mood of the lyric in this particular instance but otherwise excellent!

Sandy, this is both a complement to your recent posts and a compliment returned for them!



Mick Hanly wrote this next song, Hal Ketchum made it a hit. It's great to see them together. It's currently in my own (guitar) repertoire and is easy listening.

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#1883503 - 04/21/12 08:08 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Thanks, Richard! I liked the Hanly song a lot. Nice harmonies!
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#1883520 - 04/21/12 08:46 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: piRround]
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HAL KETCHUM!!!!!! one of my faves, you just opened the door for this one and, sorry for diverting from Prince for a moment.
I am no longer much of a country music fan, but I loved it in the late 80's/early 90's and Hal Ketchum was an under-appreciated (I thought), terrific songwriter.
I got to see him once, up close and personal and he had the audience in the palm of his hand. (well, maybe just me)
This is a simple little melody, but the lyrics rock!



Love don't hang out in a grand hotel
Got no satin sheets, got no servant's bell
Ain't in Bel Air on some big old yacht
Ain't in a beach house on Monserrat

There's a house on the edge of town
It's a little old, it's a little run down
Full of laughter and tears and toys
Crazy things only love enjoys

CHORUS

I know where love lives
I know where love lives
She's sitting on the back step in the evening air
With sea green eyes and her chesnut hair
You keep your mansions of gold, buddy,
I don't care
Cause I know where love lives

You keep all that your fortune brings
All your fancy words, all your precious things
No matter what all your money buys
It's in the arms of love
That true treasure lies


** And Richard, everyone has different tastes, PPP likes "raw", it's all good!
**vegasE, wow, interesting version of "Bad Moon"- barely recognize it.

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#1883540 - 04/21/12 09:10 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Neat song, Piano Joy! I'm not much of a country fan but once in awhile I stumble across something I really like. I think someone here posted this singer but maybe not this song:

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#1883548 - 04/21/12 09:19 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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And now, back to Prince:


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#1883584 - 04/21/12 10:46 AM Re: Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) [Re: Rostosky]
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Hi all, loving the Prince. Yes, the guitar was a revelation.

Ah, covers... Here's Stina Nordenstam with her cover of a Doors song, from her album of covers.

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