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#1834009 - 01/29/12 01:58 AM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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If that is really an issue, then may be your book would be "teach yourself tuning" OR "the encyclopedia of tuning stringed instruments of the percussive variety made simple and explained in excessive detail"



Or "learning to live with discordance"

Its for fun dude.

It has just been on the news here in the UK that desert island discs has now been running for 70yrs, this year is the anniversery.

Today SIr David Attenborough is on.

The show is podcast for those with ,...pods I suppose.


Edited by Rostosky (01/29/12 02:01 AM)
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#1834165 - 01/29/12 10:53 AM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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Rossy, how "well in advance" will you contact us?
Even thinking about this makes me never want to go on a plane across an ocean again! Or a boat...
I rather enjoying living in my house- it's such a convenient place to keep all my THINGS.
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#1834318 - 01/29/12 03:37 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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About a week or two Piano joy, depending on how busy I am with other things. But enough time so there is no panic!!
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#1834885 - 01/30/12 11:03 AM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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Originally Posted By: Rostosky
We are thinking about doing a desert island discs...you are allowed to take Eight pieces of music, your all time top eight.


Originally Posted By: Rostosky
...yes in desert island discs there is no chance of escape or rescue. It is just assumed there is something to play the records/discs on.


Originally Posted By: Kymber
...Question: can the cd's include compilations that you made?


Originally Posted By: Rostosky
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You do not get eight cds!!!! You get eight pieces of music.



Hey Rossy - Really nice idea, but I'm a little confused - the word disc is in the title of the thread (and in the title of the old NPR program) and you later state that it is assumed that there is something to play the aforementioned records/discs on, but then you say that you don't get any CDs - I was under the impression that CDs were, in fact, discs (and I guess one could say that old fashioned records are discs of a sort too) - can you elaborate on or differentiate or explain this in a tad more detail? And exactly what do you mean by "pieces of music"? Sheet music?

I used to listen to this program years ago and if I remember correctly the guests always talked about their favorite records and/or CDs - but that was quite a while back and memories of these details dim with time...


Originally Posted By: Rostosky
You are given the complete works of Shakespeare...


According to some authorities there are no known works of the actor known as William Shakespeare - he was virtually illiterate - the claim is that the works historically attributed to him were actually written by a contemporary of his, Edward de Vere, the Earl of Oxford - if true, then the Works of Shakespeare would be an empty volume and of absolutely no use on a desert island (unless one wished to use it as a diary... smile )

Trap


Edited by TrapperJohn (01/30/12 11:05 AM)
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#1835001 - 01/30/12 01:38 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: TrapperJohn]
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Originally Posted By: TrapperJohn
Hey Rossy - Really nice idea, but I'm a little confused - the word disc is in the title of the thread (and in the title of the old NPR program) and you later state that it is assumed that there is something to play the aforementioned records/discs on, but then you say that you don't get any CDs - I was under the impression that CDs were, in fact, discs (and I guess one could say that old fashioned records are discs of a sort too) - can you elaborate on or differentiate or explain this in a tad more detail? And exactly what do you mean by "pieces of music"? Sheet music?



I am going to take a stab at explaining this inconsistency.

"Disc," refers to the old-timy use of vinyl records.
Back in the old days of radio "singles" (i.e. a small vinyl record with one song on each side) would be given to radio stations.
Each side of a "single" contained a 'single' which the band or solo artist wanted to release to the radio stations (often payola was involved - and still is to this day) to entice people to buy either the full record or perhaps just the single.

Okay, now here is where I make a few assumptions:

Perhaps way back when the program started, it was just implicitly understood that a "piece of music" referred to the band or artist's 'single.'
Now if you consider the fact that these "singles" where on a vinyl disc, then title "desert island disc" makes perfect sense. (Your welcome BBC)

As for the sheet music thing, I have no idea. The BBC clearly did not think this thing through.
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#1835072 - 01/30/12 03:15 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: polyphasicpianist]
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I think we're getting all caught up in semantics...

Rossy explained earlier, (copy and paste):

try and have a think about this in the meantime: should the unthinkable happen and you can only save one record out of the eight, you have to name that.


Sheet music/song/piece, I think the INTENT is if you had time to choose ONE song, which would it be? I don't think he meant piano sheet music literally...
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#1835177 - 01/30/12 05:02 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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Quote:

You are castaway on a desert island, you are allowed to take Eight pieces of music, your all time top eight.

You are allowed to take a book ,this can be anything even a collection like the encyclopedia brittanica.

You are allowed one "luxery" item, but nothing to help you escape.
You are given the complete works of shakespeare and a bible or other book specific to your faith should you wish it.

You will also have to decide, should the unthinkable happen and you can only save one piece of music which one it will be.


LOL deserted island? I think your priorities would be waaaay different then thinking about luxury items like music, shakespeare and the bible. Well maybe the latter to make a fire to heat yourself confused but I think these should be MUCH higher on the list: knife, waterproof matches, water tank and purification tablets, mosquito net?
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#1835207 - 01/30/12 05:25 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: polyphasicpianist]
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Originally Posted By: polyphasicpianist

Now if you consider the fact that these "singles" where on a vinyl disc, then title "desert island disc" makes perfect sense. (Your welcome BBC)


What about the B-sides ? That makes 16 tracks. I don't think Roy Plomley thought this thing through.

Anyway, I prefer 'Private Passions' over on Radio 3. You don't get all these politicians pretending to like the ghastly trendy music the spin doctors picked out for them, and that they were briefed on in the back of the Jag on the way to Broadcasting House.

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#1835217 - 01/30/12 05:31 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: wouter79]
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Originally Posted By: wouter79
Quote:

You are castaway on a desert island, you are allowed to take Eight pieces of music, your all time top eight.

You are allowed to take a book ,this can be anything even a collection like the encyclopedia brittanica.

You are allowed one "luxery" item, but nothing to help you escape.
You are given the complete works of shakespeare and a bible or other book specific to your faith should you wish it.

You will also have to decide, should the unthinkable happen and you can only save one piece of music which one it will be.


LOL deserted island? I think your priorities would be waaaay different then thinking about luxury items like music, shakespeare and the bible. Well maybe the latter to make a fire to heat yourself confused but I think these should be MUCH higher on the list: knife, waterproof matches, water tank and purification tablets, mosquito net?


No, those items are addressed on the "Camping World" website.
This is piano world...where music comes before food and water. But not chocolate.
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#1835223 - 01/30/12 05:48 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: TrapperJohn]
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Originally Posted By: TrapperJohn


According to some authorities there are no known works of the actor known as William Shakespeare - he was virtually illiterate - the claim is that the works historically attributed to him were actually written by a contemporary of his, Edward de Vere, the Earl of Oxford - if true, then the Works of Shakespeare would be an empty volume and of absolutely no use on a desert island


Hollywood films unfortunately are not historical facts, no matter how much money they spend on them, you need to distinguish between this fantasy and the reality.

There are allways crackpot theories, and the film "annonymous" is certainly no exception.

If you watch the film "Titanic" you will see Captain Smith shout "hard to starboard" But in the film the Titanic goes hard to port, leaving the gash down her starboard side...
You also see the folk that do get off, getting off her starboard side. This is because it is make believe.

In the film annonymous, not only does the earl write the plays, but queen Elizabeth The 1st is apparently his mother, and then she has an incestrous relationship with him.

Unsubstantiated, unlikely, and pure hollywood.
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#1835322 - 01/30/12 08:13 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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Originally Posted By: Rostosky

Hollywood films unfortunately are not historical facts, no matter how much money they spend on them, you need to distinguish between this fantasy and the reality.

There are allways crackpot theories, and the film "annonymous" is certainly no exception.



I saw the movie "Annonymous" and it was very well done (in spite of that unfortunate part about the incest) - but the case against Shakespeare was superbly and perhaps devastatingly made in this excellent book, which goes to great length and details in great depth all the reasons why Shakespeare was not "Shakespeare" and why De Vere was...

Shakespeare By Another Name

I recommend it heartily - a fascinating read!

Trap

P.S. but first you need to straighten out the conflict about whether or not discs are discs... smile
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#1835341 - 01/30/12 08:48 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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well I had to fix your link Trap, ( you have http// twice in it , thats why it doesnt work!)

DID I NEED to look? No, I allready guessed, before I looked, this is written by an American lol..
Another American trying to re-teach us Our history, probably because the USA have no history when compared to ours which goes back further than Stonehenge itself!

Do you actually know how sick the british Academia are of this behaviourial trait?

History by proxy!

This is not a new theory, it has been bandied about for at least a hundred years in many guises,, and has been discredited every time it surfaces.

Allong with the propostrous notion that the americans captured an enigma machine and broke the enigma code during WW11.

That would be the Bletchly park in new york and the alan turin from hollywood then.

I like to be silly too sometimes, but keep it real?
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#1835397 - 01/30/12 11:14 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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Originally Posted By: Rostosky


...Another American trying to re-teach us Our history, probably because the USA have no history when compared to ours which goes back further than Stonehenge itself!

Which is exactly why we USA'icans love to rewrite British history. That and ease of pilferage considering your language sounds so very like our own.

Brass tacks: with only four worthwhile centuries available our own stories become awfully repetitive. Hollywood and other imagination-deficient hacks have subjected American history to so many convolutions at some point we were likely into pre-production of "George Washington vs. Space Alien Commie Vampires". I, for one, am thankful someone noticed those millenia of English history just lying about not busy working or doing anything important.

We'll give them back when we're through. grin

(But we're not taking responsibility for the years of rehab that will be necessary after.)
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#1835400 - 01/30/12 11:28 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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Once again, I have had to ask professer Steven hawking to speak directly to you to explain the rules of desert island discs.

I cannot keep asking him, this is twice now, and he is busy, my favours are getting used up....

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#1835562 - 01/31/12 06:14 AM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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Hey Rossy - I really didn't want to offend anyone, but to merely draw attention to the ongoing controversy concerning The Bard...

However, I guess that since I've now touched the very sensitive British nerve concerning the authenticity of Shakespeare's authorship of the Complete Works of Shakespeare I'm assuming that I have thereby removed myself from consideration for inclusion in the upcoming and very promising DID thread (which, in spite of your apparent testiness towards American historians, is a really good idea!).

Trap



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#1835865 - 01/31/12 05:57 PM Re: PW members desert island discs. [Re: Rostosky]
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Trap, of course you are invited, it would be a pleasure and also very interesting to hear your choices and reasons for them.
Mrs R is an Archeologist and deeply serious about history, she has a profound interest in Egyptology and has studied many historical areas to the Nth degree.

There is no "controversy" over shakespeare, merely crackpot theories, that have resurfaced for at least a hundred years, and have always been discredited.

Somebody has even written a book ( and made money from it) suggesting that Lewis carroll was Jack the ripper, And that if you mess around with carrolls books, and make anagrams out of the words ( p*** poor anagrams at that) you will see that lewis carroll mentioned his crimes in his books!

Which can, obviously, be done with any book by any Author.

I might be prone to siliness sometimes, but there are some real crackpots influencing folk out there.

Talking of which, have you heard about the "Targeted individuals?"

Here is a link, but if you search the phrase you will see there are many websites/pages.

http://in2worlds.net/gangstalking-and-targeted-individuals
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