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#1836034 - 01/31/12 09:55 PM
Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Recital #25 is now open for submissions!Believe it or not, our 25th  quarterly Piano World Adult Beginners Forum recital approaches! The recital will be posted some time on the 15th of February, which means that the submissions must be in by 9:00 pm Eastern time, February 14. Please note this deadline is very firm; I cannot start working on the recital until it is closed, and once it is closed, no new entries can be added. While any and all styles of music are welcome, we do ask that it be piano related. Only one recording may be submitted per forum member (although that recording may consist of a medley of two or more very short related pieces). If you are fairly new to the piano, please do not be intimidated by some of the talent here in the ABF. We all consider ourselves to be beginners even though we may have been playing for some time. And, we LOVE to hear recordings from folks new to the keyboard. So even if you’re on your first Alfred’s method book, we would *really* enjoy hearing from you. Recital submissions must be in MP3 format. The maximum size of the file is 20 MB. We recommend encoding the recording at 192 kbs with a constant bitrate, as that works best with the online streaming player. At that bitrate, a 20 MB file works out to be about 7 minutes in length. Your recording will be normalized when placed in the consolidated zip files, but your original link will still be available for those who want it. If you are new to recording your music, there are several threads in the forum archives that address the ways and means. See the "Important Topics in the AB Forum" thread stickied at the top of the AB forum page. Audacity is an excellent free recording application that can be used. Submitting Your Recording:We will be using again the absolutely marvelous automatic web-based recital program that mahlzeit wrote for us. You will upload your mp3 file to the recital server as part of the recital submission process. When you have your mp3 file ready, go to:
http://recitals.pianoworld.com/ and follow the instructions there. Please note that this URL reflects our new permanent home for all the recital files; if you have previously bookmarked the recital site, you will be automatically redirected to the new address. Once you have uploaded your info to the automated recital software, you will receive a confirmation e-mail. You will have the opportunity to revise your submission any time up until the deadline. If you have any problems at all using the new website, or if you do not receive a confirmation e-mail within a few hours, just PM me. If you have not participated in past recitals using this software, you may want to submit your recital piece at least a day in advance in case you run into any problems with it. (Though there should be no problems. Mahlzeit is a genius.  ) Mahlzeit's website will use the following submission template to be filled out along with your attached music file. You may want to have your responses to these fields prepared in advance so all you have to do is cut and paste: Performer's Name: {forum ID and real name if you’d like} Where you are located: {optional} Avatar image link: {optional} Experience: {Yrs/Mos of piano playing experience} Link to YouTube or other video: {optional} Home page link: {optional} Title of piece/composer: Source of music: {sheet music, improvised score, play-by-ear, etc} Instrument used: {Piano make, keyboard model, etc.} Recording method: {audacity, Zoom, digital to PC, etc.} Constructive technical feedback wanted: {Yes/No} Additional Info: {Your thoughts on the piece, etc. etc.} The due date for all submissions is 9:00 pm US EASTERN TIME on February 14, 2012. Did I mention that the 9:00 pm deadline was firm? Think "consistency of concrete." By submitting a piece to the recital, you are certifying that it is a recording of your own performance. Again, the recital order will be presented in the order the pieces were received, so the sooner you send in your piece, the higher you will be on the list! You can revise your entries on the template (e.g., thoughts about your piece, adding YouTube links, and the like) any time and not lose your place in the recital queue, but if you resubmit your recording at any time, for any reason, you will be bumped to the end of the list.Should anyone have any questions at all on what to do or how to do it, this is the place to ask. Remember, there are NO stupid questions, as we have a steady flow of new members in AB forum for whom this is their first recital, so your questions will probably help to eliminate other members’ problems. Please ask away! Let's all go out and brave that Red Dot and share a lot of beautiful music! 
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#1836105 - 01/31/12 11:42 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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ALREADY?! I haven't even memorized it yet!
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#1836270 - 02/01/12 07:05 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Monika,
One remark on the uploader: If you check your recording with the "download" button, and press the browser's BACK button, your recording is uploaded AGAIN.
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#1836326 - 02/01/12 09:01 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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OK, I'm in. Sorry about the squeaky pedal - it's one of those things that's got worse over the last month and I didn't realize how bad it had become.
I saw those /// characters, I assumed it was to escape something and would eventually look OK.
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#1836364 - 02/01/12 10:11 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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My performance is a video clip. um... if I figure out how to convert this to a mp3 won't I lose the video?
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#1836383 - 02/01/12 10:28 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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My performance is a video clip. um... if I figure out how to convert this to a mp3 won't I lose the video? The recital submissions are all mp3s anyway. There is an option to add a video link to your submission, so you can include that with your submission and those who want to can watch the video. Is it already on youtube? If it is, there are many sites that can give you just the audio in mp3 format.
Edited by Sam Rose (02/01/12 10:29 AM)
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#1836388 - 02/01/12 10:30 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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I hadn't put it up on youtube yet. I can though. Hmm okay so I have to find a site. Arghhhh.
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#1836392 - 02/01/12 10:35 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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There is software that will allow you to separate the audio from the video on your computer, but it might be easier to just put it on youtube and then get the audio using a site such as http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
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#1836401 - 02/01/12 10:40 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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I found a program. All done! Okay have to upload video, figure out info and submit. Thanks Sam!
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#1836417 - 02/01/12 10:55 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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I would suggest to convert the SOURCE to an MP3, and not use a youtube clip for that.
The problem with youtube is that the sound usually is very low quality. Not suited for a good piano performance.
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#1836425 - 02/01/12 11:08 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: wouter79]
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I would suggest to convert the SOURCE to an MP3, and not use a youtube clip for that.
The problem with youtube is that the sound usually is very low quality. Not suited for a good piano performance. Very true. I sadly had to do that because I didn't plan to use the recording that I did for the recital so I deleted the source audio. I may have a copy on a computer of mine in Los Angeles, but I'm not sure and I'm in New York. It's definitely not ideal to do it this way.
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#1836468 - 02/01/12 12:05 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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#1836499 - 02/01/12 12:58 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Sam R - I see you lived up to your end of the postcard bargain... good on ya'! I've got to get down to recording... though I've just discovered that I need to do a brief pedal on one spot (where I need to jump quickly with the left hand and don't want the note before the jump to sound staccato), and how that sounds (never having pedaled before) is pretty random... but it'll be good to get this piece recorded and submitted so I can be at peace with it.
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#1836520 - 02/01/12 01:39 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Mine is in! Sadly mine is horrid sounding anyways because it's just recorded as video on a cheap digital. I did however convert it using a program I downloaded and not a youtube thingy. Thanks for the advice gents. 
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#1836780 - 02/01/12 09:01 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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LBE can't wait to hear it. Martha My Dear is definitely one of my top 3 favorite songs from them.
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#1836925 - 02/02/12 02:08 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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I'm screwing up my performance like you wouldn't believe. I don't know why because it's not that hard and I had it down pat for a while.
Cheryl, did you put a hex on me? If you did please take it off. I'm working on the tear jerker I owe you but all of a sudden I can't make it through the piece without a sudden brain fart and finger fail!
I'll make it nice, I promise but you've got to take this spell off me.
I'll try again tomorrow. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered? Do you believe in magic? "You put a spell on me" he says..."No baby, it wasn't me". (Is there music in the air?) I will however do my best to remedy the situation - and of course, musically. Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Reverse the hex, that is making a mess bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo You've got to believe it will work quite a lot bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola means mechicka booleroo Now let fast fingers flow over the keys bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola menchicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Let your heart soar and ignore the red dot bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi-boo
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#1837003 - 02/02/12 06:30 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: casinitaly]
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Carlos--- I'm sorry you won't be joining us this time! Well ... I've been very busy (really!) and I can not even get near a piano with the mindset to make a decent recording. Maybe next time. At least I'll listen to your pieces.
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#1837082 - 02/02/12 09:23 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Mr super-hunky, Play it one or two times at half speed and I guess you're good to go again 
Edited by wouter79 (02/02/12 09:24 AM)
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#1837098 - 02/02/12 09:52 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: casinitaly]
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I'm screwing up my performance like you wouldn't believe. I don't know why because it's not that hard and I had it down pat for a while.
Cheryl, did you put a hex on me? If you did please take it off. I'm working on the tear jerker I owe you but all of a sudden I can't make it through the piece without a sudden brain fart and finger fail!
I'll make it nice, I promise but you've got to take this spell off me.
I'll try again tomorrow. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered? Do you believe in magic? "You put a spell on me" he says..."No baby, it wasn't me". (Is there music in the air?) I will however do my best to remedy the situation - and of course, musically. Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Reverse the hex, that is making a mess bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo You've got to believe it will work quite a lot bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola means mechicka booleroo Now let fast fingers flow over the keys bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola menchicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Let your heart soar and ignore the red dot bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi-boo I think we need to hear a recording of this, with chanting (enchanting) vocals, for the spell removal to really work. Sam
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#1837142 - 02/02/12 11:22 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: Sam S]
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I'm screwing up my performance like you wouldn't believe. I don't know why because it's not that hard and I had it down pat for a while.
Cheryl, did you put a hex on me? If you did please take it off. I'm working on the tear jerker I owe you but all of a sudden I can't make it through the piece without a sudden brain fart and finger fail!
I'll make it nice, I promise but you've got to take this spell off me.
I'll try again tomorrow. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered? Do you believe in magic? "You put a spell on me" he says..."No baby, it wasn't me". (Is there music in the air?) I will however do my best to remedy the situation - and of course, musically. Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Reverse the hex, that is making a mess bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo You've got to believe it will work quite a lot bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola means mechicka booleroo Now let fast fingers flow over the keys bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola menchicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Let your heart soar and ignore the red dot bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi-boo I think we need to hear a recording of this, with chanting (enchanting) vocals, for the spell removal to really work. Sam I think she just admitted putting a spell on him in the first place... isn't that cyber-bullying?  I don't think my failure this morning to overcome the red dot was caused by a spell, unfortunately... I noticed that it makes me play faster. I wish that was a virtue!
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#1837235 - 02/02/12 01:21 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Bad Zoom! Bad Zoom! Maybe if you beat your Zoom more it would behave and not film your floor!  In all seriousness, that sucks! I hope your next recording goes off without a hitch! You too Mr.SH!
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#1837269 - 02/02/12 02:24 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Hey Wouter, before I forget, you can critique my performances from now on.
I wasn't sure about you at first but your feedback has usually been spot on so have at it.
That is of course as long as you like what you hear. If you don't then just lie okay? LOL okay, so I can already give you the very positive comments right now and leave the rest out? 
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#1837304 - 02/02/12 03:32 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Just got through an epic recording session. Managed to pull off a half-decent version of my piece with some hesitations and skipped notes here and there but no glaring bloopers. Got up to turn off Zoom Q3HD and discovered that it had slipped in the tripod mount and had just finished videotaping 4 glorious minutes of my hardwood floor. At least it will make for a good MP3 
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#1837363 - 02/02/12 04:57 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Hey, Mr. Super-Hunky enough already! I'm innocent - AND I made a sincere effort to remove someone else's hex! (and besides, it isn't logical? Why would I try to jinx something I've been waiting for ? Silly. Sam Rose: I suppose I could record myself singing that song, but......... then again, I don't think I will 
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#1837389 - 02/02/12 05:43 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Sam Rose: I suppose I could record myself singing that song, but......... then again, I don't think I will haha I wasn't the one who asked you to record it. That was Sam S! Maybe I need to change my name 
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#1837413 - 02/02/12 06:52 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: Sam S]
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OK, the magic quote problem has now been resolved.
Sam Good job, Sam - now if we can only get the "magic code" problem fixed - we need to increase it's size - I've never been quite sure that a mere 25 characters is secure enough  Trap
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#1837968 - 02/03/12 01:17 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Sam Rose: I suppose I could record myself singing that song, but......... then again, I don't think I will haha I wasn't the one who asked you to record it. That was Sam S! Maybe I need to change my name ooops - Sorry Sam- I was checking from my phone and just saw the signature, didn't really see the sidebar with the full name. And given you'd been participating in the previous few posts I thought it was you. So, sorry Sam S too!! In any event, I'm not going to sing it.
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#1838220 - 02/03/12 09:31 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Woohoo, I'm number 22! I may rerecord to see if I can get one closer to flub-free, but thought it worth committing now to ensure submission, "perfect" or not. Mid-February is my one-year anniversary of starting piano, so this recital is a nice marker... I can genuinely say that I'm a much better player now than I was a year ago. 
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#1838288 - 02/04/12 12:38 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Tried to record today and failed in an immense red-dot illuminated bomb. I turned the recorders off and was so at ease playing thru it - I've been wondering a while now why I subject myself to such self abuse. Strengthening thru fire perhaps? ...or a desire to connect with 60-80 folks that are feeling the same way I am tonight. I think the latter. 
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#1838406 - 02/04/12 08:24 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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I'm in. First time I've taken part in this recital. Not too happy with the recording. My digital camera runs out of juice really fast when taking video, so I was limited to just a few takes. Maybe I'll have another go at it before the dead-line.
Really excited to hear what everyone else have uploaded.
Edited by GrouchoMarx (02/04/12 08:25 AM)
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#1838440 - 02/04/12 09:44 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Tried to record today and failed in an immense red-dot illuminated bomb. I turned the recorders off and was so at ease playing thru it - I've been wondering a while now why I subject myself to such self abuse. Strengthening thru fire perhaps? ...or a desire to connect with 60-80 folks that are feeling the same way I am tonight. I think the latter. If it was possible to separate the sound of my piano from the rest of the household noise I could probably get lots of good recordings by just letting the dot glow constantly. My best playing seems to occur when the TV is on at top volume, someone's playing computer games really loud, kids are screaming from one room to another and the dogs are fighting under my piano bench. Its a poor environment for learning, but its often when my playing thrives.
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#1838505 - 02/04/12 01:04 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: TrapperJohn]
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Good job, Sam - now if we can only get the "magic code" problem fixed - we need to increase it's size - I've never been quite sure that a mere 25 characters is secure enough  Trap As a matter of fact, every time I submit something to a recital, and play it back afterwards, I notice a few clunkers that definitely were not in my original recording. No doubt about it - some hacker has been breaking the code, and tampering with the files. I suppose this is his way of trying to win the "Best In Recital" prize. He can't eliminate the clunders in his own recording, so he puts a few in ours. Not fair, and darned irritating! I'm for fifty-character codes. Ed
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#1838516 - 02/04/12 01:21 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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#1838563 - 02/04/12 03:05 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: Riddler]
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Good job, Sam - now if we can only get the "magic code" problem fixed - we need to increase it's size - I've never been quite sure that a mere 25 characters is secure enough  Trap As a matter of fact, every time I submit something to a recital, and play it back afterwards, I notice a few clunkers that definitely were not in my original recording. No doubt about it - some hacker has been breaking the code, and tampering with the files. I suppose this is his way of trying to win the "Best In Recital" prize. He can't eliminate the clunders in his own recording, so he puts a few in ours. Not fair, and darned irritating! I'm for fifty-character codes. Ed Same here. But it gets stranger ... they also hack into my digital recorder and change the file on there too!!!
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#1838632 - 02/04/12 05:39 PM
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I'm in, and wow, I'm not number fifty-something! I'm glad to have it done - I've got a kazillion piano projects right now - my brother's going to help me record a demo cd, the band has a St. Pat's gig, I'm hoping to have another one, and I've got a couple of requests from my seniors that I need to learn, + just in general wanting to spend more time at the piano. Keeps me sane, any way.
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#1839089 - 02/05/12 04:13 PM
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I request.... I Giorni. Has this been played before?  Oh wait, there is an Einaudi submission!! Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing you all. Looks like there's lots of good submissions, and we may break 60 this time... I've been slacking off lately, so I'll catch you guys this Spring. GOOD LUCK...and again, I'm excited to listen soon.
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#1839244 - 02/05/12 10:15 PM
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...I'll catch you guys this Spring.
Too bad, I really enjoyed your last contribution (The Chrysanthenum) , and not just because we have the same piano!
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#1839248 - 02/05/12 10:28 PM
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Might give this a go...
Just got to work out the best tool for the job of recording: 1) iPhone? (No tripod mount - so might have to enlist the help of a daughter) 2) iPad (as above? - but would the quality be any different?) 3) Nikon D90 (good pictures - but not sure about the sound quality?
Anyone? (sorry no fancy specialist recording gear here!)
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#1839313 - 02/06/12 01:03 AM
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Well, that's finally done! *whew*
When I started trying to record yesterday, I suddenly discovered all the little places where I didn't quite have the music memorized to the level where I could play it under pressure. So I spent yesterday and this afternoon getting those parts under control, and was able to get a good recording this evening. Yay!
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#1839322 - 02/06/12 02:22 AM
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I'm screwing up my performance like you wouldn't believe. I don't know why because it's not that hard and I had it down pat for a while.
Cheryl, did you put a hex on me? If you did please take it off. I'm working on the tear jerker I owe you but all of a sudden I can't make it through the piece without a sudden brain fart and finger fail!
I'll make it nice, I promise but you've got to take this spell off me.
I'll try again tomorrow. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered? Do you believe in magic? "You put a spell on me" he says... "No baby, it wasn't me". (Is there music in the air?) I will however do my best to remedy the situation - and of course, musically. Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Reverse the hex, that is making a mess bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo You've got to believe it will work quite a lot bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola means mechicka booleroo Now let fast fingers flow over the keys bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola menchicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Let your heart soar and ignore the red dot bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi-boo I think we need to hear a recording of this, with chanting (enchanting) vocals, for the spell removal to really work. Sam I think she just admitted putting a spell on him in the first place... isn't that cyber-bullying?  I don't think my failure this morning to overcome the red dot was caused by a spell, unfortunately... I noticed that it makes me play faster. I wish that was a virtue! Bessel, I missed this - note my highlight in black..! I was not guilty, and I was just trying to help Cebukid, I'm sorry you won't be joining us this time! I always love your submissions! (I too had been thinking that this might be a record - a recital with no Einaudi! .Well, whew. We've got one DadAgain - I use a Canon digital camera to record my submissions from the acoustic - then there is free software you can download to convert from video to MP3 if you don't want to post video.
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#1839333 - 02/06/12 03:10 AM
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i'm typing this with one finger and only one arm so please forgive me if I take a few shortcuts and don't observe perfect apa or mla style standards. My physical therapist (treating me for Tennis Elbow) says I can only do 15 minutes of practice with a break of equal duration, but the 2 days i did this more than 4 times seemed to take me back to sqaure one with my arm problem. now i can't play at all for at least a day -- computer usage hurts too.
One of the songs I was working on before I got taken out was perfect for Valentine's day and i would realy like to get one more song out there before I tak a long hiatus from piano and computer--at least six weeks--particulary since the February recital marks my one year Youtube journal anniversary.
Now I could easily have it done with 45 minutes every day for a week hands together but in order to get the song done in the seven days i'll have left after tomorrow, I'm practicing left hand only and writing the portions that aren't smooth in the right w/ the fingering (and i haven't much practice writing rhythms from my head). Does anyone know whether it would be a good idea to also record left hand part and then try to use the left hand to play the right hand part with the recording of the left hand part while resting the afflicted right arm?-- or do you think this would only screw me up? Would really appreciate any advice, especially based on experience with tendonitus while trying to prepare for a recital.
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#1839355 - 02/06/12 04:50 AM
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... (I too had been thinking that this might be a record - a recital with no Einaudi! Well, whew. We've got one I'm afraid that if we hadn't received one the Recital might have been held hostage by "the authorities" until we did... 
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#1839359 - 02/06/12 05:03 AM
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Does anyone know whether it would be a good idea to also record left hand part and then try to use the left hand to play the right hand part with the recording of the left hand part while resting the afflicted right arm?-- or do you think this would only screw me up? You mean, play both sides with LH and mix them on the computer? Well it's obvious "cheating"  but it sounds like a nice idea to me, I would give it a go 
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#1839362 - 02/06/12 05:27 AM
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Hi Wouter,
Thanks for your response. No, I hadn't even thought of that, but thanks for the idea. If I'm unable to use my arm come Feb. 14, that's one way to still participate. But what I had in mind was a way to memorize the newest material without getting my right arm involved in too much hands-on practicing. I thought by writing I could practice mentally. And by using the left hand to play the right hand part, i could memorize at least the intervals and rhythms without relying on right hand muscle memory. at least I'd memorize the visual and know the chord changes this way, and perhaps my experience using consistant right hand positions combined w/ this would be enough to see me through.
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#1839445 - 02/06/12 09:40 AM
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StarrKeys - Aren't there some pieces out there for one hand only? Not that there's a lot of time for this recital to work on them...
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#1839449 - 02/06/12 09:42 AM
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I'm screwing up my performance like you wouldn't believe. I don't know why because it's not that hard and I had it down pat for a while.
Cheryl, did you put a hex on me? If you did please take it off. I'm working on the tear jerker I owe you but all of a sudden I can't make it through the piece without a sudden brain fart and finger fail!
I'll make it nice, I promise but you've got to take this spell off me.
I'll try again tomorrow. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered? Do you believe in magic? "You put a spell on me" he says... "No baby, it wasn't me". (Is there music in the air?) I will however do my best to remedy the situation - and of course, musically. Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Reverse the hex, that is making a mess bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo You've got to believe it will work quite a lot bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola means mechicka booleroo Now let fast fingers flow over the keys bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Salagadoola menchicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo Let your heart soar and ignore the red dot bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi bibbidi-bobbidi-boo I think we need to hear a recording of this, with chanting (enchanting) vocals, for the spell removal to really work. Sam I think she just admitted putting a spell on him in the first place... isn't that cyber-bullying?  I don't think my failure this morning to overcome the red dot was caused by a spell, unfortunately... I noticed that it makes me play faster. I wish that was a virtue! Bessel, I missed this - note my highlight in black..! I was not guilty, and I was just trying to help Ah, sorry to have missed that, you are hereby absolved. I'll withdraw the formal inquiry. 
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#1839557 - 02/06/12 01:36 PM
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StarrKeys - Aren't there some pieces out there for one hand only? Not that there's a lot of time for this recital to work on them... That's something else i might explore after next week-but no, not enough time before ecital. Thanks for the idea, though. 
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#1839764 - 02/06/12 07:42 PM
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The thing holding me back is finding some time when its quiet enough to record in the house! Theres always kids running around screaming, watching TV, dinner being cooked (pots and pans banging and clashing) or its later and the kids are in bed (in which case I dont want to wake them!).
Should be able to squeeze 5 minutes of peace and quiet to get a recording done over the weekend...
Now to chose... Chopin or Beethoven?? hmmmm...
ETA: Just checked the list so far - and the Beethoven I was considering (Pathetique 2nd movt) is already on the list... so Chopin it is! [just *1* bar needing a little spit and polish! before I record]
Edited by DadAgain (02/06/12 07:45 PM)
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#1839822 - 02/06/12 09:23 PM
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Oooooh more Chopin!! I can't wait 
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#1839829 - 02/06/12 09:40 PM
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I'm struggling to finish learning Gymnopedie no. 1 for the recital. So far learnt the first page, but for some reason the tiny bit on the 2nd page is causing me problems. Hopefully I can manage to pull it together by this weekend for recording. Also got a piano tuning booked for tomorrow so my piano will sound at it's best even if I may not be yet.  I envy those of you who are already at the recording stage.
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#1839861 - 02/06/12 10:43 PM
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I'm struggling to finish learning Gymnopedie no. 1 for the recital. So far learnt the first page, but for some reason the tiny bit on the 2nd page is causing me problems. Hopefully I can manage to pull it together by this weekend for recording. Also got a piano tuning booked for tomorrow so my piano will sound at it's best even if I may not be yet.  I envy those of you who are already at the recording stage. I'm working on this one too (NOT for this recital) and I lost steam before I memorized the transition between the repeated parts and the end. I keep practicing what I learned so far and just can't seem to make myself finish.
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#1839869 - 02/06/12 10:54 PM
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I thought I was all good to go - my tune is memorized and in my fingers....then I broke a tooth, and am self-medicating  . I tried recording and thought it was in the bag, but pain and self medication don't mix well with recording. Everything was kind of "off". I'll have to try to record again after the tooth is fixed later this week.
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#1839870 - 02/06/12 10:55 PM
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Ouch sorry to hear that CMohr! I hope you get your tooth fixed quickly!
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#1839873 - 02/06/12 10:59 PM
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The thing holding me back is finding some time when its quiet enough to record in the house! Theres always kids running around screaming, watching TV, dinner being cooked (pots and pans banging and clashing) or its later and the kids are in bed (in which case I dont want to wake them!). I told my husband the only thing he could do while I was recording was to play darts in the basement. ETA: Just checked the list so far - and the Beethoven I was considering (Pathetique 2nd movt) is already on the list... so Chopin it is!
That's mine! But we've had doubles in the recitals before. It's always fun to hear two versions of the same piece. But I do love Chopin, too, so either one will be great.
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#1839915 - 02/07/12 12:01 AM
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*sigh* - finally!  Not perfect at all, but - *shrugs shoulders* Also managed to get in some not too terribly difficult yet hard to record pieces in as well. I am never playing these again. One toughie just barely missed the cut. It will be ready soon, and perhaps a stored entry for next recital. What self abuse we put ourselves through for these recitals. 
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#1839953 - 02/07/12 01:34 AM
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I'm struggling to finish learning Gymnopedie no. 1 for the recital. So far learnt the first page, but for some reason the tiny bit on the 2nd page is causing me problems. Hopefully I can manage to pull it together by this weekend for recording. Also got a piano tuning booked for tomorrow so my piano will sound at it's best even if I may not be yet.  I envy those of you who are already at the recording stage. I'm working on this one too (NOT for this recital) and I lost steam before I memorized the transition between the repeated parts and the end. I keep practicing what I learned so far and just can't seem to make myself finish. Those are the same parts I'm having trouble with! It feels better to know i'm not alone tackling this.
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#1839963 - 02/07/12 02:08 AM
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Mr Super-Hunky, You don't need to mean your emotions while you're playing  In fact, I suspect that would make the worst recording ever, how can you play if your hands are trembling and you can't see the score and the keys are dripping wet LOL So I would suggest to determine just exactly how you want to play it (phrasing, articulation, dynamics, etc) and do just that
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#1839965 - 02/07/12 02:10 AM
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Starr Keys I thought by writing I could practice mentally. And by using the left hand to play the right hand part, i could memorize at least the intervals and rhythms without relying on right hand muscle memory. Ah, that would probably work, and it will speed up your 'physical' work with the RH, but I suspect that without training the RH muscle memory it won't work.
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#1840186 - 02/07/12 12:57 PM
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thanks, wouter. I guess I was mainly worried playing this way would develop m-memory the left hand and confuse my brain when i returned to playing that part w/ the right, but arm better today and that didn't happen. Now if i can only manage 2 more 15 min. sessions w/o pain today i'll be back on track.
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#1840290 - 02/07/12 04:31 PM
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Mr Super-Hunky, You don't need to mean your emotions while you're playing  In fact, I suspect that would make the worst recording ever, how can you play if your hands are trembling and you can't see the score and the keys are dripping wet LOL So I would suggest to determine just exactly how you want to play it (phrasing, articulation, dynamics, etc) and do just that Yeah, I'm in. Finally....sheez. Thanks Wouter for the advice. I was trying so hard to add dramatic emotion and feeling while playing at an incredibly slow, emotional pace that the end result sounded artificial and forced. Actually, it sounded incredibly bad. Not something I wanted to put out. After some soul searching (and some deep thoughts by Jack Handy), I took your advice and just played it the way I felt like it. It's funny too as the whole sound of the piece changed. It's no longer the sad, emotional tear jerker I was trying to make it. It is now a much livelier happy piece which better reflects my mood and playing style anyway. SO, I'm now happy once again. Thanks.
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#1840312 - 02/07/12 05:00 PM
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Sorry about your tooth, CMohr. I know the feeling of having things coming together only to have an unforseen obstacle thrown in your path and ruin all your hard work.
It's not easy to move things along when youre in pain or full of painkillers. Like you, I missed the last recital and it's not yet certain I'll be able to do this one either. You have my sympathy and best wishes.
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#1840446 - 02/07/12 10:56 PM
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I did get some decent piano work done today, so hopefully can record tomorrow.
Starrkeys - hope you make it in. If not, totally understandable. Hope you're on the mend, too.
Congratulations! Me too! 45 minutes, which was all I wanted. Thanks for your support and kind words. Now if I can only limit my computer use to that much time, I might just pull it off. 
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#1840505 - 02/08/12 02:01 AM
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Got 10mins for some recording, but iPhone quality is simply not up to scratch....
What to do? May have to pull out - mediocre playing OR mediocre recording could be bearable but BOTH? Perhaps I'll sit this one out until next time ( thus giving me a chance to see what everyone else's quality is like). Seems to be a lot of discussion about some seemingly high end recording gear around here and it's making me nervous!
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#1840511 - 02/08/12 02:31 AM
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Aww come on! Don't do that! Many people use cheap gear and nobody whines about it. In fact, it can be used as an excuse to cover up mediocre playing, if you have that problem 
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#1840621 - 02/08/12 10:25 AM
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Thanks guys! I saw the dentist yesterday - tooth won't get fixed until Thursday - probably have to pull the sucker. I cracked it all the way through the root. At least it's the furthest back molar, so I won't have a gaping hole in the front of my mouth. So far advil, anbesol, and wine have eased the pain, along with antibiotics as a precaution.
Mr. SH - Like you this happened on a Friday, so the weekend was heck. Yeah, there's nothing worse than pain in the head. I can't imagine pain in both ears! Yikes!
I did get some decent piano work done today, so hopefully can record tomorrow.
Starrkeys - hope you make it in. If not, totally understandable. Hope you're on the mend, too.
Carl - will you be joining us this time? I hope so. No, I will have to sit this one out... the "issue" meter is a bit high right now.Changed my mind. Submitted issues and all. Besides it is not often I can follow MSH.
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#1840675 - 02/08/12 12:29 PM
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I would not go for the IPhone.
I did a search on the web but there seems no way to set manual volume control, a strict requirement IMHO for recording piano.
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#1840676 - 02/08/12 12:30 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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>mr_super-hunky
glad to hear that you succeeded in making a recording! Looking forward to it
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#1840687 - 02/08/12 12:42 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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...Many people use cheap gear and nobody whines about it. In fact, it can be used as an excuse to cover up mediocre playing, if you have that problem So, that's the secret to sounding good in the Recitals..you're saying that expensive gear can be too revealing and that those who have the "mediocre playing" problem should dummy-down on their gear as a sort of "cosmetic expedient"? I know I have that problem, which is why, in a way, I wish I didn't use the Zoom H4n. But that's the way to get better, so I suck it up.
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#1840691 - 02/08/12 12:51 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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What to do? May have to pull out - mediocre playing OR mediocre recording could be bearable but BOTH? Perhaps I'll sit this one out until next time ( thus giving me a chance to see what everyone else's quality is like). Seems to be a lot of discussion about some seemingly high end recording gear around here and it's making me nervous!
I recorded off my digital camera (which really is a horrid little recording) and I've only been playing for 2 months! Some of us are not high end for either! No excuses! HA! 
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#1840807 - 02/08/12 04:50 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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The Zoom H2 is $142 on amazon, easy to use, and yields excellent quality recordings. Put it on the top of your wish list for Valentine's Day,... Funny that... 'Valentines day wishlist'? Dont think I've recognised valentines day as anything significant for over 25 years! (I have a feeling its more of any American thing) - In my limited experience its a day for teenagers to get stressed about and everyone to either ignore completely or use the opportunity to spend twice as much as normal on eating out?! Anyway - cheapest H2 I can find in Australia is $190 - and thats still more than I can stomach for what is essentially (for me) a bit of a toy. Given the quality of the iPhone was so bad (it does ok recording my daughter - but i'm obviously too loud for it and it was 'clipping' VERY baddly) - I'll see what the should is like from the Nikon D90 this weekend and try and post whichever is the least offensive. For the record - my recording environment is far from ideal too. Last nights effort had a group (a 'murder'?) of crows and a making an awful noise and a couple of sqawking cockatoos just outside the window - and over the weekend I'll be competing with either torrential rain, or the neighbours mowers, hedge trimmers, chainsaws etc etc... finding a 5 minute window of near silence can be tricky! (but I promise I'll try)
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#1840832 - 02/08/12 05:40 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: BenPiano]
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Check out the Zoom H1 too. Just stereo audio recording only (no video), and much cheaper. ( < 100USD Sucks that this gear is so expensive in Australia compared to other places: Zoom H1 - cheapest on internet = AU$130 (US$140)
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#1840862 - 02/08/12 06:21 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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No, I will have to sit this one out... the "issue" meter is a bit high right now.
Changed my mind. Submitted issues and all. Besides it is not often I can follow MSH.
Ha! I was just going to say, "Oh, rats!" and then noticed you did submit - yay! Looking forward to yours and everyone elses.
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#1840868 - 02/08/12 06:35 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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No, I will have to sit this one out... the "issue" meter is a bit high right now.
Changed my mind. Submitted issues and all. Besides it is not often I can follow MSH.
Ha! I was just going to say, "Oh, rats!" and then noticed you did submit - yay! Looking forward to yours and everyone elses. Yes, the line-up looks outstanding and I am looking forward to listening to this recital. Hopefully, yours as well!
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#1840869 - 02/08/12 06:35 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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No, I will have to sit this one out... the "issue" meter is a bit high right now.
Changed my mind. Submitted issues and all. Besides it is not often I can follow MSH. I'm glad the "issues" were piano-related. Those aren't fatal  And having "issues" just means you're getting better and better, right? Because now you know what to work on. I bet it'll be really fine to listen to. Any body that can follow mr. super-hunky must be good. Cathy
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#1840879 - 02/08/12 06:56 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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No, I will have to sit this one out... the "issue" meter is a bit high right now.
Changed my mind. Submitted issues and all. Besides it is not often I can follow MSH. I'm glad the "issues" were piano-related. Those aren't fatal  And having "issues" just means you're getting better and better, right? Because now you know what to work on. I bet it'll be really fine to listen to. Any body that can follow mr. super-hunky must be good. Cathy Seeing your Tennessee Waltz, Glen, MaryBee & Wouter's Beethoven pieces, beechcraft409, SR & RedKat's Chopin pieces, AP's Debussy, joangolfing's Schumann, Monica's un-Einaudi... well, the list is just too long isn't it? I just had to get in! Following MSH was just icing on the cake
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#1840886 - 02/08/12 07:14 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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No, I will have to sit this one out... the "issue" meter is a bit high right now.
Changed my mind. Submitted issues and all. Besides it is not often I can follow MSH. I'm glad the "issues" were piano-related. Those aren't fatal  And having "issues" just means you're getting better and better, right? Because now you know what to work on. I bet it'll be really fine to listen to. Any body that can follow mr. super-hunky must be good. Cathy Haha, not really. It just seems that way. It's like saying "boy, you sound great compared to that swamp donkey that went before you !" So Carl, nothing to worry about. You've been missed BTW. I'm glad you're in. Also, when you say your "issue meter" is peaked, so is my "curiosity meter". Now I've got to wonder what's doin'. Remember, I'm a llama whisperer. I can fix anything other than the things I can't.
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#1840902 - 02/08/12 08:06 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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ONE TAKE! Is that like "SEVEN AT ONE BLOW!!" That's terrific. As long as you trust you husband to not lose the recording entirely, I say let him edit. Altho the *crack* wouldn't bother me - part of the charm of live recordings around here  But it seems a legitimate edit to me. Cathy
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#1840955 - 02/08/12 10:35 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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At the very beginning of my recording you can hear my neighbors dogs barking, I'm just glad mine didn't start up with them.
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#1840977 - 02/08/12 11:26 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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I'm struggling to finish learning Gymnopedie no. 1 for the recital. So far learnt the first page, but for some reason the tiny bit on the 2nd page is causing me problems. Hopefully I can manage to pull it together by this weekend for recording. Also got a piano tuning booked for tomorrow so my piano will sound at it's best even if I may not be yet.  I envy those of you who are already at the recording stage. Update, I've gotten past the transition part before the repeat, so now all I need to do is learn the ending and practice away all the mistakes and points of hesitation before I'm ready to record. A sad note is that my piano tuning got postponed, so it won't be tuned in time for the recording.  On the other hand at least I can now blame my mistakes on the out of tune piano. 
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#1841142 - 02/09/12 08:48 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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No, I will have to sit this one out... the "issue" meter is a bit high right now.
Changed my mind. Submitted issues and all. Besides it is not often I can follow MSH. I'm glad the "issues" were piano-related. Those aren't fatal  And having "issues" just means you're getting better and better, right? Because now you know what to work on. I bet it'll be really fine to listen to. Any body that can follow mr. super-hunky must be good. Cathy Haha, not really. It just seems that way. It's like saying "boy, you sound great compared to that swamp donkey that went before you !" So Carl, nothing to worry about. You've been missed BTW. I'm glad you're in. Also, when you say your "issue meter" is peaked, so is my "curiosity meter". Now I've got to wonder what's doin'. Remember, I'm a llama whisperer. I can fix anything other than the things I can't. Well certainly, I have all of the usual- as a son, sibling, husband, father issues( and you are welcome to take a shot at any/all of them  ) but the "issues" I was referring to were more of the phrasing, timing, dynamic, variety. Of which, I need more time, as the sand hits the floor, to work out. So, you will hear the half baked, doughy in the middle, wine before it's time version. Seriously, it is better than I expected and thanks for the love... it is appreciated.
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#1841198 - 02/09/12 10:52 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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No, I will have to sit this one out... the "issue" meter is a bit high right now.
Changed my mind. Submitted issues and all. Besides it is not often I can follow MSH. Way to go! BTW, I too was surprised at MSH's placement in this recital. I'm usually way below him in the list.
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#1841202 - 02/09/12 10:59 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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For the record - my recording environment is far from ideal too. Last nights effort had a group (a 'murder'?) of crows and a making an awful noise and a couple of sqawking cockatoos just outside the window - and over the weekend I'll be competing with either torrential rain, or the neighbours mowers, hedge trimmers, chainsaws etc etc... finding a 5 minute window of near silence can be tricky! (but I promise I'll try) Ha ha! Here in the U.S., that's what my May and August recital challenges are. (Except substitute cicadas for cockatoos.)
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#1841206 - 02/09/12 11:05 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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I got my tune recorded today in ONE TAKE! I'm so excited! I'm ready to submit it, but at about a minute in there's a huge "crack" that our house made. My husband wants to edit it out of the recording....I know editing is frowned upon, and I've never done any...so what do you guys think? Leave in the "noise" or try to edit it out? Can the Llama whisperer fix this? Congrats on the "one take". I would not sweat the "crack". Piano players cannot be judged on noises beyond their control. During our recital at the retirement community, a lady came in with a cart- dispensing pills to the audience. However, I would be curious of the source. The source of the "crack", or the pills?  Cathy
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#1841282 - 02/09/12 01:35 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Awwhh yeeeaahh! It is finished.
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#1841566 - 02/09/12 10:59 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Well, I just jumped down from #22 to #36; six days for me makes a big difference in how I can play a piece, it turns out.  I'm turning the corner on this one from "get the notes right" to "put some feeling into it"... It's been fun working on it, though I think I'll take a break from it now and let it rest, then come back to it in a week or so to see whether I can get more feeling in there, post-recital. I'm looking forward to listening to all of you, less than a week from now!
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#1841573 - 02/09/12 11:18 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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That's cool, bessel. I was just surprised that I got mine in before the last minute  It's neat that you could still get a re-do in. Cathy
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#1841739 - 02/10/12 07:44 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Bessel, once your recording is actually submitted, a funny thing happens. You will automatically play the piece much better than you ever have since the stress factor is gone and in a few more days if you keep playing the piece, it will seem to get even better.
All because you are putting LESS effort into it. You are now familiar with the piece as well as being totally relaxed.
Now, go ahead and try to re-record it. Just watch how fast it all falls apart just by plugging in that flashing stress device lol!
Also, sometimes I take a break from a tune for a short while. It always seems to be beneficial and many times I seem to be able to play it much better just by taking a few days off. Not a bad deal if you think about it. Do nothing for a few days only to come back better. Pretty easy sell actually.
Or you will do what I seem to be doing lately which is finally stop playing it and then promptly forget it... I find myself working so hard for three months to get a piece ready for recording that I'm relieved to get it done and let it go. That said... it's not too hard to bring it back once I do dig it back up. I agree though, it can be so stressful trying to record that sometimes it's best to let it go a few days, relax and then sit down casually to play. Maybe look at it with some advice a teacher gave me a long time ago only replace "playing for an audience" with "record". "Practice like you are playing for an audience and play for an audience like you are practicing." Of course, that never worked for me as the few times I have played for an audience I froze up colder than my pond in January but... it's still nice advice.
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#1841977 - 02/10/12 03:10 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Submitted! I've been unsuccessful at uploading to YouTube, so you get audio only. Plus I think I may buy my own recorder (I'm thinking Zoom H2), because although I can borrow a recorder from work, it is often checked out to someone else and I can't necessarily get it when I want it.
(My piece took me about 10 takes, gaaah. Which mostly proved to me, not red-dot fever, but that I don't play it as reliably as I think I do. The piece I wanted to submit, but then couldn't upload to YouTube off my iPhone, only took me 1 take. But then you would have had the crappy iPhone sound quality instead of the better M-Audio Microtrack II of my actual submission. But you also would have had a Mason & Hamlin grand instead of a Baldwin Hamilton upright. Trade-offs, trade-offs.)
Edited by PianoStudent88 (02/10/12 03:15 PM)
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#1842180 - 02/10/12 07:52 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: CMohr]
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I tried to record today, but after having my tooth extracted yesterday, I still feel a little fuzzy. Yeah, but if you played your cards right you should be 25 cents richer today (At least that was the going rate back in the day!) Glad you're in.
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#1842240 - 02/10/12 09:15 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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CMohr - Are you sure that crack wasn't your head hitting the fallboard in an overly expressive moment? That might explain the tooth pain...  Glad to hear you're recovering... we live in an old house, and I'm well familiar with those creaks and groans, actually... your recording will certainly be unique! Peyton - Unfortunately I've only got 2.9 "pieces" that I can play right now, so unless I go back to really easy short stuff or spend all my time struggling to learn something brand new, none of them will spend too much time "on the shelf being forgotten." I still play the piece that I played for the last recital most days, though usually only one take at it, enough so I remember it but not enough to polish it... the good thing is that I think that with an hours work, maybe less, it would sound much better than it did for the recital... one of the benefits (the only benefit?) of being such a newby.  MSH - I like your formula for improvement. I'm pretty sure I'll play it for my lesson (or rather, my half-lesson tagged on at the end of my son's lesson... not lots of time but a chance to get some feedback) tomorrow, but with the pressure off after that, it's going to sound fantastic in a week, right? Hmm, interesting idea for a recital theme someday... "play something you submitted before, so we can all see how much better you are"...
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#1842349 - 02/11/12 03:06 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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So I negotiate 10 minutes of observed silence from the family, have a rare moment with no lawn mower noise and put the camera on a tripod.
I crack out the Chopin and start recording......
After 2 false starts due to never before experienced note fluffing, I got through a half decent rendition and wasmreadybto get busy with 'post production' work (not editing - just getting into relevant formats and uploading)....
Then daughter pipes up and says, "it stopped recording before you got to the end!"
Turns out the Nikon D90 has a 5 minute max clip length and my Op9 #1 Nocturn performance takes 5:05. I listened back and the recording stops In the last but one bar!
....time to do over but SLIGHTLY faster!
Grrrrr!!!!!!
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#1842368 - 02/11/12 04:11 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Ahh! I spent half my Saturday trying to record Gymnopedie No 1 but kept making mistakes in all the places i had no trouble with, and strangely all the hard bits I had no problems at all.
Gonna try again on Sunday.
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#1842414 - 02/11/12 07:38 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Carlos--- I'm sorry you won't be joining us this time! Well ... I've been very busy (really!) and I can not even get near a piano with the mindset to make a decent recording. Maybe next time. At least I'll listen to your pieces. Correction! I returned home this week-end, two days ahead of schedule, so I think I can record something decent and send it to the recital. This is not a promise, and let's see if I can do something even although I have not played recently.
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#1842472 - 02/11/12 09:58 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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raptor, I will look forward to hearing your Gymnopedie 1. I have fallen head over heels in love with Satie.
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#1842535 - 02/11/12 11:41 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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I cant participate in this one guys  I thought my piece was recital ready but my teacher said it is "raw" right now...
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#1842553 - 02/11/12 12:17 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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I cant participate in this one guys  I thought my piece was recital ready but my teacher said it is "raw" right now... If its not ready for a live, teachers and audience in front of you recital is it at a point where you feel comfortable sharing? Sometimes it is good to go ahead and get the first time "over with". For my first ABF recital my piece had a major flub at the end and I didn't have time to re-record but I was encouraged to enter it anyway and I'm glad I did. This will be my second and I'm excited. If your teacher had you play at a live recital with a "raw" piece it would reflect badly on them for throwing you to the lions unprepared. Here we just want to hear everyone try their best and enjoy listening to each other. There is a wide variety of "best" around here.
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#1842559 - 02/11/12 12:22 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Here's sending encouragement to DadAgain, raptor, and CarlosCC. The ABF understands flaws in recordings - flubs from red dot syndrome, missing last measures, a little roughness from not having had time to be on the piano. So please submit anyway. Same for BrokenChord - this is the ABF, sometimes "raw" is the name of the game  I have a recital recording with such a long pause that everytime I listen I wonder if I'm going to start again  (a previous recital - this one went pretty well) For my very first submission someone said my octaves were "sloppy" "splashy" - I treasure that remark because it was so true! So we'd love to hear you, too. It's shaping up to be a good selection of pieces - go ABF! Cathy (posting same time as Little Blue Engine - similar sentiments. Great minds and all that.)
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#1842623 - 02/11/12 01:36 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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Same! The red dot can be quite the hurdle to get past! Every recording so far has taken me at least 5 takes because I freeze just because I know it's recording! LOL I'm sure all my pieces are rough or raw. This is also my first recital and I know how nerve wracking that is. Go ABF'ers!
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#1842632 - 02/11/12 01:47 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: DadAgain]
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So I negotiate 10 minutes of observed silence from the family, have a rare moment with no lawn mower noise and put the camera on a tripod.
10 minutes with the entire family on pause waiting for a good recording. OMG,... TRIPLE STRESS!!You're a better man than me. NO WAY could I pull that off!
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#1842676 - 02/11/12 02:47 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I can't submit this time.It was going to be Mozart K282, but it'll have to wait til next time.I'm moving house and my piano is in storage.I miss it like crazy.I shall be listening though.
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#1842833 - 02/11/12 07:52 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I'm out of luck...  I can not submit my piece ... I do not receive any confirmation or the "magic code". I have already sent the piece by mail to Monica and I hope she can fix this.
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#1842852 - 02/11/12 08:49 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: Mr Super-Hunky]
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So I negotiate 10 minutes of observed silence from the family, have a rare moment with no lawn mower noise and put the camera on a tripod.
10 minutes with the entire family on pause waiting for a good recording. OMG,... TRIPLE STRESS!!You're a better man than me. NO WAY could I pull that off! I can't even get 10 minutes of silence at my house. I have to record when my husband is at work, the kids are sleeping and even then I sometimes have to throw things at my dog to get him to shut up! Then the neighbor's dog starts barking...
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#1842884 - 02/11/12 10:15 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: DadAgain]
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Turns out the Nikon D90 has a 5 minute max clip length and my Op9 #1 Nocturn performance takes 5:05. I listened back and the recording stops In the last but one bar!
....time to do over but SLIGHTLY faster!
Grrrrr!!!!!! Oh no, can't believe it, a $1000 or so camera recording only up to five minutes continuously! My lousy (or not?) Samsung ST70 can record up to 20 minutes, before stopping and saving. You could of course make two recordings and combine them. I'm gathering courage to put up Yesterday. I haven't had adequate time to practice, but I'm hoping to have my first recital up before the 14th. If not, I'll post it in the February (or March) piano bar.
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#1842905 - 02/11/12 11:02 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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..More recording today....
3 pieces to choose from:
1) Chopin Noncturne Op9 #1 - Played it quick enough that I captured the last note, but then it got cut short.. Not the best performance, but for a debut performance it'll do
2) Beethoven Pathetique Sonata 2nd Movt - not a perfect performance by any means, but acceptable... but not sure about adding something thats already in the recital...
3) Chopin waltz C# minor - Not a performance I'm happy with, but at least its all captured and not replicating what anyone else is playing....
Anyone care to express a preference?
(Now listening back to the recordings on headphones on the laptop and its clear the D90 has terrible sound... its like listening to the piano down a telephone!... where's the top and the bottom?...
oh - and heck my piano needs a tuning!!! :()
Edited by DadAgain (02/11/12 11:04 PM)
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#1842910 - 02/11/12 11:18 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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DadAgain -
If I remember right you said your iPhone attempt at recording was clipping... have you tried just moving it farther away? If you have a laptop and any mic at all, you might play with those, recording direct to computer. That at least would give you some control over levels.
I'm someone who never looks at the videos, only listens to the audio, so I'm in favor of whatever gives you the best sound, and forget about the picture. (I also don't tape video for my submission, stone-age DP player that I am.)
And, in terms of voting... whatever you like best!
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#1842917 - 02/11/12 11:33 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: bessel]
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...I'm someone who never looks at the videos, only listens to the audio see in the past I've always been about the video - showing daughter whats going on with her posture and pointing out things that she needs to SEE - just using the camera as a learning tool... (and bad audio is perfectly sufficient for that level of private introspection). Now I'm sharing a recording of myself - to an audience who I have no idea how critical they may be, I find the quality quite embarassing!
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#1842975 - 02/12/12 01:56 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: Pianotehead]
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Registered: 12/09/05
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Turns out the Nikon D90 has a 5 minute max clip length and my Op9 #1 Nocturn performance takes 5:05. I listened back and the recording stops In the last but one bar!
....time to do over but SLIGHTLY faster!
Grrrrr!!!!!! Oh no, can't believe it, a $1000 or so camera recording only up to five minutes continuously! My lousy (or not?) Samsung ST70 can record up to 20 minutes, before stopping and saving. You could of course make two recordings and combine them. I'm gathering courage to put up Yesterday. I haven't had adequate time to practice, but I'm hoping to have my first recital up before the 14th. If not, I'll post it in the February (or March) piano bar. Most DSLRs aren't really designed for video. They lack cooling fans for the sensor. Dedicated video cams cool the sensor and thus offer virtually unlimited video time. Most DSLRs do not. Due to the possibility of the sensor overheating many are limited in video recording time to anywhere from 5 - 7 minutes depending on brand/model. I will not be participating this time due mostly to laziness and lack of preparation, but I am looking forward to hearing all of your submissions.
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#1843012 - 02/12/12 05:04 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: jotur]
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I spent another few hours on Sunday trying to get that elusive perfect recording, but it seems that every recording had a few major flaws.. Since i'm totally exhausted from my recording marathon, I'll just pick the one with the least noticeable flaws and submit that. :P On another note, I've played and replayed the song so many times that I can now play it from memory!! 
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#1843041 - 02/12/12 06:49 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: Monica K.]
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[starts sweating] Unfortunately I was not able to get Carlos's piece uploaded. I have shipped it to Sam S., who--unlike me--knows what he's doing computer-wise. Hopefully he will have a chance to figure out what's going on.  Crisis averted. Carlos is in, and it sounds really good (I had to listen to it to verify that the upload worked, didn't I?) Sam
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#1843048 - 02/12/12 07:11 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: Sam S]
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Thanks Sam, I'm going to retrieve my "magic code" to fill out the piece information. Great!!!!  btw: what was the problem? It was the bit rate, or the size of the file, or...? Thanks.
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#1843081 - 02/12/12 09:06 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: DadAgain]
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Registered: 05/22/08
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..More recording today....
3 pieces to choose from:
1) Chopin Noncturne Op9 #1 - Played it quick enough that I captured the last note, but then it got cut short.. Not the best performance, but for a debut performance it'll do
2) Beethoven Pathetique Sonata 2nd Movt - not a perfect performance by any means, but acceptable... but not sure about adding something thats already in the recital...
3) Chopin waltz C# minor - Not a performance I'm happy with, but at least its all captured and not replicating what anyone else is playing....
Anyone care to express a preference?
(Now listening back to the recordings on headphones on the laptop and its clear the D90 has terrible sound... its like listening to the piano down a telephone!... where's the top and the bottom?...
oh - and heck my piano needs a tuning!!! :() Those are all excellent choices and I have only a marginal preference for the 9/1. There has been a repeat performance in almost all of the recitals, so if the Sonata is your preference to submit, please do. I see you went with the 9/1...
Edited by Strings & Wood (02/12/12 09:14 AM)
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#1843147 - 02/12/12 10:42 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: CarlosCC]
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Thanks Sam, I'm going to retrieve my "magic code" to fill out the piece information. Great!!!!  btw: what was the problem? It was the bit rate, or the size of the file, or...? Thanks. I think the size limit is really 10mb and not 20. Your file was stereo with both channels the same, so I dropped it back to mono, which cut the file size in half. Looking at all the other file sizes that have successfully uploaded, they are all less than 10mb. Sam
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#1843153 - 02/12/12 10:54 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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My vote is for Beethoven Pathetique Sonata 2nd Movt
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#1843154 - 02/12/12 10:54 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: Sam S]
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Thanks Sam, I'm going to retrieve my "magic code" to fill out the piece information. Great!!!!  btw: what was the problem? It was the bit rate, or the size of the file, or...? Thanks. I think the size limit is really 10mb and not 20. Your file was stereo with both channels the same, so I dropped it back to mono, which cut the file size in half. Looking at all the other file sizes that have successfully uploaded, they are all less than 10mb. Sam Hmmm, I'm not sure about the size. My submission for the 24th recital was 15mb in size and I had no problem uploading it. Unless this new site has other limits... Maybe it's the MP3 bit rate because I just submitted sucessufully the same file with a smallest bit rate. Anyway, thanks for your support! PS: If the limit is 10mb, please correct the info in the upload page.
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#1843164 - 02/12/12 11:05 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Wow, Cheryl, that puts me up to #22. I haven't been that early up in a couple of years  But I love it that you got the blues piece ready - let's hear it! Dennis -  I always like your stylings and selections. DadAgain - yes! bessel - cool that you got a new recording. CarlosCC - glad the crisis is averted. raptor - that's the spirit! Only a couple of days now. . . Cathy
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#1843246 - 02/12/12 12:59 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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The entry is in...perfection eludes me but the entry is in and that feels like an accomplishment! Whoo hoooooooooo.
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#1843250 - 02/12/12 01:05 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: CarlosCC]
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Registered: 08/10/05
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I think the size limit is really 10mb and not 20. Your file was stereo with both channels the same, so I dropped it back to mono, which cut the file size in half.
Looking at all the other file sizes that have successfully uploaded, they are all less than 10mb.
Sam
Hmmm, I'm not sure about the size. My submission for the 24th recital was 15mb in size and I had no problem uploading it. Unless this new site has other limits... Maybe it's the MP3 bit rate because I just submitted sucessufully the same file with a smallest bit rate. Anyway, thanks for your support! PS: If the limit is 10mb, please correct the info in the upload page. Carlos, I think the limit got moved down in the transition to the new servers, which is why it was never an issue in the past. Sam's looking into it, and I think we're going to try to raise it back up for future recitals. But for this recital, if any of you haven't submitted yet and/or experience trouble in uploading your piece, check the size of your file. And you don't need to re-upload your info, btw. I was able to 'undelete' your original submission and it's all still there. 
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#1843332 - 02/12/12 03:12 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: FarmGirl]
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Unfortunately I cannot contribute to the recital this time. I just flew in to JFK on an urgent business. There is a piano in the company building but I don't think I can find any time to go near it. Next time. Oh sadness. We will miss you.
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#1843398 - 02/12/12 05:05 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: wouter79]
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My vote is for Beethoven Pathetique Sonata 2nd Movt Sorry - I went with the Nocturne..  The Beethoven, despite being probably the best played of the 3 choices was possibly the worst recorded (Too much dynamic contrast for the technology). The worst bit about the recording is the D90's fantastic 'auto-leveling' microphone, which does a great job of ensuring any dynamics I play are destroyed in the mix! (Just listen to the relative volume of the hissy noise and tone quality as it boosts my 'piano's and fades my 'forte's - its weird and quite unsettling to have all my nuances and feeling eaten up by a dumb piece of technology!) ETA: Not really fair - as a CAMERA the D90 is awesome... but as a 'multifuncton device' it kinda sucks!
Edited by DadAgain (02/12/12 05:09 PM)
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#1843650 - 02/13/12 06:27 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Duhhhh. Requierement 1 for a piano recording device is manual volume control.... Every recorder should have such an option
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#1844433 - 02/14/12 11:25 AM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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LaValse and Copper - stalwarts! Yea! Copper - I am really looking forward to your piece  Cathy
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#1844577 - 02/14/12 03:35 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I wasn't going to submit mine as it wasn't quite up to speed, but last weekend I thought 3 months is enough working on a piece like this so got mine in. Today I started on my next piece, yey!
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#1844624 - 02/14/12 04:48 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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4 more hours left to submit! 
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#1844732 - 02/14/12 07:42 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I wish I could figure out how to upload to YouTube. So far it has eluded me. Grrrrrrrr.
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#1844791 - 02/14/12 09:17 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Okay, I was able to save Starr Keys's submission. I ripped the mp3 off the YouTube video and uploaded it. *Phew* Starr Keys, you owe me an extra half hour of sleep. 
Edited by AB Forum Recital (02/14/12 09:31 PM)
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#1844812 - 02/14/12 09:57 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Okay, contrary to appearances, we *will* have a recital tonight. The online streaming player isn't working, and I had to drop Denali's submission, but everything else is running the way it's supposed to be. I'm making the zip files now so hopefully it will all be up in *gulp* a couple of hours.
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#1844814 - 02/14/12 09:58 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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You're a champ, Monica  Cathy
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#1844815 - 02/14/12 09:59 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
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#1844816 - 02/14/12 09:59 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Okay, contrary to appearances, we *will* have a recital tonight. The online streaming player isn't working, and I had to drop Denali's submission, but everything else is running the way it's supposed to be. I'm making the zip files now so hopefully it will all be up in *gulp* a couple of hours. You are a saint. Hmmm, maybe the deadline should be 6 or 7pm in the future, for your sake!
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#1844820 - 02/14/12 10:03 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: bessel]
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Okay, contrary to appearances, we *will* have a recital tonight. The online streaming player isn't working, and I had to drop Denali's submission, but everything else is running the way it's supposed to be. I'm making the zip files now so hopefully it will all be up in *gulp* a couple of hours. You are a saint. Hmmm, maybe the deadline should be 6 or 7pm in the future, for your sake! Indeed... we are all indebted to you. May we pay with SA's?
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#1844840 - 02/14/12 10:29 PM
Re: Recital #25 --- Call For Submissions
[Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Actually, there's still a few more kinks. The zip files won't upload; apparently Frank's guy didn't set all the permissions we needed. And the direct links in the automated program are still set to go to LaValse's server. So I have to go through and fix them all by hand. So, no streaming player tonight, and probably no zip files; we'll get that all sorted out as soon as we can. But I'll have the individual entries done before I go to sleep and finish up everything else tomorrow. 
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