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#1837429 - 02/02/12 07:25 PM TuneLab for Android
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Registered: 10/07/11
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TuneLab is now available on Android. If you'd like to check it out you can download it for free: http://www.tunelab-world.com/
The free download is fully functional. The only hitch is that it stops for 2 minutes every 18 notes.

All you TuneLab users - tell me what you like about TuneLab. It seems to be the underdog in the tuning world, but I think it's a really fine program. I like the two displays you can read. The spectrum display gives you the big picture and the phase display gets you up close. Both are adjustable in how they are read.
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#1837474 - 02/02/12 09:18 PM Re: TuneLab for Android [Re: That Guy]
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I switched over from an SAT III, which I feel is a very good stand-alone ETD, to TuneLab on an iPod Touch. I like it very much.

I don't have any experience with any of the other software programs available, so I can't comment on them.
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#1837500 - 02/02/12 10:12 PM Re: TuneLab for Android [Re: That Guy]
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Registered: 06/23/06
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Loc: Québec, Canada
I have been using tunelab for years now. Started with a cheap HP pda, then went to a Motorola Q with windows mobile, the smartphone version. It was stolen. So since I had both the smartphone and touch screen versions on my computer, I was able to switchback to the touch screen version on a Samsung Omnia that I bought on kijiji. 50$. Cheap. It is not activated as a phone, it stays with my tools.

I use an iPhone as a phone, but would not buy tunelab, for it. I prefer separate machines.

What I think is great about tunelab for android, is that it means that I will always have a cheap way to run the program. On cheap older machines, or newer ones.

Mr. Scott certainly had a good idea when he offered the demo version, years ago, many tuners are as good as they are because of that, and bought the software as I did. I would pay it again. And when the time comes, I will.

I also have never tried other platforms, I have not had the need to.

If this sounds like an endorsement for tunelab, it is.


Edited by accordeur (02/02/12 10:20 PM)
Edit Reason: clarity
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#1838427 - 02/04/12 09:20 AM Re: TuneLab for Android [Re: That Guy]
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Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
I agree that Tunelab is a nice program. I have it on an HP ipaq 211 that I still carry around with me. I bought Verituner and an ipod touch a few months ago, which has become my main tuning device. It does a great job on pianos that are already close to pitch. But I much prefer Tunelab for pitch raising. If a piano is flat enough, I don't use the built in pitch raise function at all. I find that that the key to getting the piano tuned up to pitch is getting through the first pass quickly. So, I just load a tuning file I think is close to the piano at hand, and fly through it. Tunelab's spectrum display lets you see where every string is pitch wise, so you don't have to mute off as you go. Also, the battery life is much better on the ipaq. I get a few tunings out of the ipod, and it's gone. So, even though I'm using Verituner, I don't want to give up the Tunelab machine. It definitely has it's advantages.

Two things I wonder about using Android. One is battery life. I had an Android phone briefly. It did some neat things, but the battery life was awful. I stopped in several phone stores, and they all said not to expect the battery to last long with Android. I had 30 days, so I took it back and got another Blackberry. I still think Blackberry makes the best phone for business use.

Another thing is the fact that Android is written for a wide variety of devices. My daughter has an Android phone, and she says that some of the apps are glitchy. She's guessing that they may work fine on one phone, but not another. It's a different scenario than iOS, where the apps all play on a device built by the same company.
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#1838661 - 02/04/12 07:13 PM Re: TuneLab for Android [Re: That Guy]
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I've been doing the same thing with pitch raises. Even if the first pass takes me 45 minutes the fine tuning usually goes pretty fast too so I figure I'm doing okay. I haven't done a full pitch raise with no mutes yet, but I've done a little so I know it can be done. It sure sounds weird!

Battery life is an issue with Android. There are "battery saver" apps that can help. Shutting off certain things like the GPS will save power. Not using "Live" wallpapers, keeping the screen on a low level... maybe someday batteries will be better and it won't be an issue, but until then ya gotta watch it. Right now I'm using TuneLab on Windows Mobile 6.5, an HTC HD2. Battery life is good. I'm down about 20% after a normal tuning. I don't think I'll be switching to the Android version but I down loaded it for fun. My HTC is "dual booted". The main OS is WM 6.5 but on the memory card is Android 2.3. Android can be run from a memory card but WM can not. It's nice having both systems.

I think you're right about some apps being glitchy on some devices. I think that's why iPod, iPhone is so smooth because they only run on their devices.

I also have another tuning program I use called Tunic OnlyPure. It only runs on the Windows Mobile OS. It uses a lot more power than TuneLab because it's actively listening as you tune. I think that's what Verituner does also isn't it? So maybe it uses a lot of power also?

I do use the pitch raise mode on TuneLab sometimes. One of the tricks is to increase the pitch raise percentage when you get to the treble break. I go with 25% in the middle and then 33% after the break. That usually gets me pretty close.


Edited by That Guy (02/04/12 07:14 PM)
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#1838759 - 02/05/12 12:28 AM Re: TuneLab for Android [Re: That Guy]
RoyP Offline
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Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 691
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Yes, I believe that the Verituner software uses more juice than Tunelab. That, and the battery on the iPaq is better.

I find the overpull function most useful when raising pitch something like 10-15 cents. It will fall about right with one pass, with maybe some touchup. Much more than that, and you're gonna be doing 2 passes. I would rather do the first pass quickly than accurately. The pitch raise function introduces some latency that slows me down too much on large pitch raises. Sometimes with Tunelab I'll use a single mute to mute off one string of a trichord. Then I'll pull up a pair, move the mute, and pull up the third string. This way I'm moving the mute half as much as normal, but not having to listen to three strings.

I go through spells were I tune all aurally, and spells were I use the machines quite a bit. Tuning pianos is kind of of like mowing a large yard. About the time you get them done, they're out of tune and you have to start over.
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