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#1838392 - 02/04/12 07:12 AM C position help.
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I have been learning middle C position on easy sheet music, using the same left and right thumb on the same middle C note. I got a new book to try and In this other books it has the left thumb on the G note and the right thumb on middle c note. ~Just a bit confused to which one I should use now .



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#1838394 - 02/04/12 07:20 AM Re: C position help. [Re: Dazzie2]
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Those books are written so as to give you tunes to play without moving your hands from a particular position. That is an exercise/learning technique not entirely related to normal piano playing. In most pieces, every few notes (or even every single note at times) requires moving one or both hands to a different "position". So much so that you don't really think in terms of "positions" at all. You locate your hand where it needs to be to play a certain sequence of notes but to the extent you think about it at all you think about which fingers you're going to need to make that sequence work smoothly.

At the stage of learning where you use that type of exercise, it's going to take some tricky "figuring out" on your part to apply the "C position" and/or "G position" to anything that isn't already labeled as such in an instructional book. There's no guarantee than any particular piece of music will fit one or the other, in fact most will not. The vast majority of tunes you play need positions outside of those two specific, simplified ones. But that's daunting to think about at this stage, I know.
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#1838395 - 02/04/12 07:42 AM Re: C position help. [Re: Dazzie2]
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Thanks for the info!! I guess where I got confused was Middle C position and Normal C position. I guess its time to expand my learning it seems quite hard changing hand positions as when you get so use to using the first hand positiion. So my next step would be Middle C position too normal C position, Which is only the left hand that has the finger change the right stays the same.


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#1838399 - 02/04/12 07:49 AM Re: C position help. [Re: Dazzie2]
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I can't really say, Dazzie. If I did learn by that method (and I can't recall for certain) it would have been 42-43 years ago. Not that I'm an advanced player now! I was away from that piano most of the time since then. But I only vaguely remember starting out with positions, not what order we did things in.

Hopefully someone will step in and be more detailed.
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#1838404 - 02/04/12 08:14 AM Re: C position help. [Re: Dazzie2]
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Originally Posted By: Dazzie2
Thanks for the info!! I guess where I got confused was Middle C position and Normal C position. I guess its time to expand my learning it seems quite hard changing hand positions as when you get so use to using the first hand positiion. So my next step would be Middle C position too normal C position, Which is only the left hand that has the finger change the right stays the same.


For a long time, every single time you add something new to what you do....it is confusing. smile

But OH! So worth it.

If you practice regularly the changes come naturally and the confusion doesn't last too long .... but it is a constant surprise to me at how each new level brings a new set of confusing factors. It is all part of the challenge, and part of the fun!
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#1838413 - 02/04/12 08:54 AM Re: C position help. [Re: Dazzie2]
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Dazzie2, I completely remember how confusing that was. I had borrowed two books from my grandchildren - and one started out with the middle C position, and one with the normal C position. It was so hard to remember which one my hands were in at any given time. And then, just when I was getting comfortable, the book threw in G position. Yikes! But after a few days I got used to it. You will too. Just take it slow and keep at it. I don't even think about "positions" anymore, I just look to see which note and which fingers I should start on for a piece, and the rest works itself out.

And yes, as Casinitaly said, every time you learn something new you get confused all over again. Solving the new "problem" is part of what makes piano fun.
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#1838433 - 02/04/12 09:33 AM Re: C position help. [Re: mom3gram]
Brent H Offline
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Reminds me of a favorite quotation:

Quote:
Before I came here I was confused about this subject. Having listened to your lecture I am still confused. But on a higher level.
--Enrico Fermi
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